Ingram Micro's $459 24-inch V7 monitor is an HDMI oddity

Ingram Micro just kicked out an oddball, budget monitor under their V7 brand. How budget? Very. The 24-inch D24W33 has an MSRP of $459. That takes home a 1,920 x 1,200 resolution, 1,000:1 reported contrast, 250cd/m2 brightness, 160-degree viewing angles, quick 2 millisecond response, and choice of analog VGA or HDMI inputs. Yes, HDMI... no DVI or DisplayPort in sight. So if you want a rich, digital link from your laptop or PC you'll have to get a DVI to HDMI cable and burn that HDMI port. Too bad, 'cause that leaves nothing for your game console or other HDMI video source. Dell's own budget $469 E248WFP features the same 24-inches and analog VGA input but with HDCP-enabled DVI, a slower (5-ms) response, but brighter (400cd/m2) image. So what will you do when it ships in January?

[cherie22984 @ Dec 18th 2007 6:41AM]

sounds like a deal.

[Ondra Soukup @ Dec 18th 2007 6:59AM]

this is one of those "who cares" things because of stupid design error...

[J. sykes @ Dec 18th 2007 7:44AM]

hmm actually. i wouldnt mind it. its not like you'll have more then one display going anyway.

if its that big of an issue, just get a vga plug for your xbox/ps3/wii?

[Bombaclaat @ Dec 18th 2007 9:46AM]

shouldn't that be...."a HDMI oddity?"...just asking.

[Andy @ Dec 18th 2007 9:51AM]

Correct. But who needs proofreading? Bloggers want to be given the same treatment and access as other journalist but don't want to be held to the same standards.

[M @ Dec 18th 2007 11:20AM]

Actually, 'an' is correct in this instance. 'An' is typically the most correct choice preceding an acronym beginning with an 'H' (or the singular letter on its own, as just evidenced). This works best when the acronym is not said as a single word (i.e. a HUD loan).

However, if the acronym is not pronounced in one word, but instead as individual letters, as with HDMI and HTTP, the correct article is 'an' (i.e an HDMI oddity, an HTTP request).

The differences of preference concerning the articles a/an are a topic of strange interest, ranging beyond the discrepancies in acronyms. Much of the confusion might stem from the variations in the British and American pronunciation of the letter 'h.' Americans tend to convolute the language beyond even their best comprehension.

[David Talmage @ Dec 18th 2007 12:02PM]

As long as we're being pedantic about grammar, let's get our terms straight. You should know that HDMI is an abbreviation but HUD is an acronym. The distinction is whether the letters are read individually, as in HDMI, or pronounced as a word, as in HUD.

[Bombaclaat @ Dec 18th 2007 11:54AM]

a HDMI oddity and a HTTP request still seems more natural to me.

[Unomi @ Dec 18th 2007 11:58AM]

In contrast of what someone else states: 'an' reffers to 'oddity'. Since 'oddity' starts with a noun (o,i,e,u,a etc.) you should use the 'an'. It is such a simple rule.... And if someone thinks I'm wrong, don't fight me, fight the education system.

- Unomi -

[naz @ Dec 18th 2007 12:25PM]

"an" is correct becuase HDMI (pronounced aach-dee-em-eye), starts with a vowel sound (the "aach"). The "an" does not refer to "oddity" (you wouldnt say "an red apple" because cause the subject is apple).

Following the example above, you would say "a HUD loan" because, generally speaking, "HUD" is pronounced as a singular word, not by its individual letters, so you lose the "a" sound at the beginning of the word. But if you did pronounce it "aach-yoo-dee" than it would be preceded by an "an".

And, finally, HDMI is an acronym, it stands for High-Definition Multimedia Interface.

[redrumz @ Dec 18th 2007 9:58AM]

You could always just pick up a HDMI hub, of course.

But that's just my thoughts.

[JTM @ Dec 18th 2007 3:55PM]

I came here to say the same thing.

HDMI is sweet because it's fully compatible with dvi and the hdmi switches are compact and cheap, if you go to the right place (monoprice).

[Jon @ Dec 18th 2007 11:49AM]

You can pick up 24-inch LCDs for under $400 without trying to hard. How is this a big deal?

[James Yopp @ Dec 18th 2007 12:11PM]

>> What will you do when it ships in January?

[James Yopp @ Dec 18th 2007 12:13PM]

Engadget needs a preview, so I can know when its misguided tag-stripping is going to eat my whole post:

>> What will you do when it ships in January?

Well, since you asked: I'll continue to use the integrated monitor in my 24" iMac, which has nearly identical specs as far as I know, and I won't worry about HDMI / HDCP / DVI nonsense unless, in a bout of insanity, I buy a current-generation gaming console. If I decide I need a massive monitor and/or buy the aforementioned console, I'll double my budget and get a 42" LCD with the same resolution, so I can have a "War-Room" style setup with my desk sitting 3-6 feet back from a wall-mounted display.

[tamoghno @ Dec 18th 2007 1:48PM]

so there's a company named ingram-micro ? what other product do they have ?

[SteveMB @ Dec 18th 2007 1:55PM]

I own a V7 22" widescreen that I bought from Staples a few months ago and can say it's sweet. I bought it over a Viewsonic.

[Eggbrain @ Dec 18th 2007 2:00PM]

Enough on the grammar rants, this is a gadget blog not a bloody thesis.
Hardly any of the above posts relate to the display.

A wise person once said don't argue with a stupid person because a person from afar cannot tell who is who.
Sometimes its better to not mention things.

[Brad @ Dec 18th 2007 2:15PM]

My Dell M1330 has a DVI port...

[John McDole @ Dec 18th 2007 2:20PM]

Can we get an updated "Do it yourself projector" project now?

[Kunikos @ Dec 18th 2007 4:22PM]

Gateway's 24" is much better. It's MSRP is $500, but it has VGA, HDMI, /and/ DVI, plus it does PiP, 3ms GtG, and has a rotate/tilt/height adjustable stand. Also, it looks way sexier.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824113012

[MeteorOnEarth @ Dec 18th 2007 6:47PM]

Looks like a rebranded Iiyama prolite B2403WS to me. http://www.iiyama.co.uk/media/cache/13352.jpg

[videonevin @ Dec 19th 2007 12:20AM]

at my work we have an lg 24" monitor that only has vga compnent and hdmi, no dvi.
this one i think: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824005099&ATT=24-005-099&CMP=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Monitors+-+LCD+Flat+Panel-_-LG+Electronics-_-24005099

[Alex Johnson @ Dec 20th 2007 12:41AM]

you can find the Acer P241WBD at Circuit City for $400, 24" 1920x1200, it has DVI/VGA/HDMI, is HDCP, has 3000:1 contrast, 2ms response, and amazing colors

[MadAtom @ Dec 24th 2007 2:38AM]

What's the response time? I thought I read it was like 2ms. If it is, that's awesome. That's what you pay for. Unless you're into CAD or gaming, won't be an issue. I have sensitive eyes so these specs matter. My eyes are worth the extra bucks, however, this monitor doesn't seem to cost that much more than a lower spec version from other brands.

Also, I though HDMI was completely compatible with HDCP and DVI through a connector isn't it? I mean, it's all digital signals, why would HDMI be an oddity? I think it's more flexible since it does video and sound easily from an HDMI source. It's messier or sans-sound if you go from DVI/HDCP to HDMI.

Have to wonder about some of these engadget guys... :D