now i just can't wait for the hack that will inevitably be released that will let users "rent" the movie and then strip the DRM so we can keep it permanently...
That has only worked on MS's DRM. I haven't heard much about Apple's being cracked. Some have come up with ways of going about it, but it seems to be a pain in the rear. This is why a lot of people were confused with NBC's decision of leaving Apple and going for Amazon who uses MS's cracked DRM. TV execs, who can understand them.
This hack will probably come... but really who will use it? What difference will it make? How many rental movies do you really want to keep forever and watch repeatedly?
How many movies have you chosen to watch more than twice?
itunes drm has already been hacked... the only drm ive seen so far that hasnt been hacked (yet) is the xbox live marketplace.
still this is a good deal for itunes subscribers but if they dont have hd versions (like xbox live marketplace). they really need to get itunes upgraded to hd soon.
Forgetting the ethics of it, how is that different than what we can already do with conventional DVDs? I know I sure enjoy renting movies (for the large part) because of that functionality.
I guess my biggest question here is what the quality is going to be. iPod-size 320 x 240 is very subprime for desktop or even TV viewing. Especially in the day of HD...
aaron: all iTunes files haven't yet been cracked. AAC protected files have been for a quite a while (so you no longer have to burn and rip tracks to gain access).
This however is a work around with the application recording the output and then creating a new file. This is NOT the crack we all desire. It is just a step above taking a video camera and filming your screen. I can't speak to the specifics of the technology, but I'm in the camp if it hasn't been cracked yet (which it's going on a few years now), it probably will not be hacked in the nearterm.
To all the people talking about how iTunes hasn't used 320x240 "in a few years now" and how iTunes video hasn't been cracked "going on a few years now" you do realize that the iTunes video store hasn't even been around for two years yet, right?
As far as why it hasn't been cracked, why on Earth would anyone bother to crack low resolution videos downloaded from a pay site, that will only play on Apple devices, when with less effort they can just download the same (and then some) content at better resolution as a Divx that will play on just about everything except Apple hardware? I don't think that the lack of a crack is a particular testament to the superiority of their DRM, but rather a testament to what a colossal flop the iTunes movie store and AppleTV have been.
Rob: Money. It's the reason they're in this business anyway, if Apple wasn't paying them as good as Amazon was offering, "Sorry Apple, there's someone else..."
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Ryan @ Dec 27th 2007 12:00AM
now i just can't wait for the hack that will inevitably be released that will let users "rent" the movie and then strip the DRM so we can keep it permanently...
Rob @ Dec 27th 2007 12:04AM
That has only worked on MS's DRM. I haven't heard much about Apple's being cracked. Some have come up with ways of going about it, but it seems to be a pain in the rear. This is why a lot of people were confused with NBC's decision of leaving Apple and going for Amazon who uses MS's cracked DRM. TV execs, who can understand them.
mtt @ Dec 27th 2007 12:07AM
This hack will probably come... but really who will use it? What difference will it make? How many rental movies do you really want to keep forever and watch repeatedly?
How many movies have you chosen to watch more than twice?
This is a key difference between music & movies!
aaron @ Dec 27th 2007 12:22AM
itunes drm has already been hacked... the only drm ive seen so far that hasnt been hacked (yet) is the xbox live marketplace.
still this is a good deal for itunes subscribers but if they dont have hd versions (like xbox live marketplace). they really need to get itunes upgraded to hd soon.
nerdtalker @ Dec 27th 2007 1:01AM
Rent and keep?
Forgetting the ethics of it, how is that different than what we can already do with conventional DVDs? I know I sure enjoy renting movies (for the large part) because of that functionality.
I guess my biggest question here is what the quality is going to be. iPod-size 320 x 240 is very subprime for desktop or even TV viewing. Especially in the day of HD...
Michael LaFramboise @ Dec 27th 2007 1:51AM
nerdtalker, Apple hasn't used 320x240 in a few years now... shortly after they started selling videos, they bumped them all up to 640x480...
But yeah, would def be nice to see it bumped up again to atleast 480p
frozenrubber @ Dec 27th 2007 2:57AM
aaron: all iTunes files haven't yet been cracked. AAC protected files have been for a quite a while (so you no longer have to burn and rip tracks to gain access).
However, there is no application that is able to strip protected iTunes video of DRM. The closest thing to this at the moment is:
http://www.topvideopro.com/guide/how_to_convert_protected_m4v_m4p_aa_m4b.htm
This however is a work around with the application recording the output and then creating a new file. This is NOT the crack we all desire. It is just a step above taking a video camera and filming your screen. I can't speak to the specifics of the technology, but I'm in the camp if it hasn't been cracked yet (which it's going on a few years now), it probably will not be hacked in the nearterm.
L. M. Lloyd @ Dec 27th 2007 4:41AM
To all the people talking about how iTunes hasn't used 320x240 "in a few years now" and how iTunes video hasn't been cracked "going on a few years now" you do realize that the iTunes video store hasn't even been around for two years yet, right?
As far as why it hasn't been cracked, why on Earth would anyone bother to crack low resolution videos downloaded from a pay site, that will only play on Apple devices, when with less effort they can just download the same (and then some) content at better resolution as a Divx that will play on just about everything except Apple hardware? I don't think that the lack of a crack is a particular testament to the superiority of their DRM, but rather a testament to what a colossal flop the iTunes movie store and AppleTV have been.
ssuk @ Dec 27th 2007 5:30AM
Rob: Money. It's the reason they're in this business anyway, if Apple wasn't paying them as good as Amazon was offering, "Sorry Apple, there's someone else..."