Palm Foleo: the exclusive first and final hands-on
By Ryan Block 
posted Dec 27th 2007 12:09PM
posted Dec 27th 2007 12:09PM
Back in 2005 we got a once in a lifetime scoop -- the Treo 700w -- that proved once and for all Palm was doing non-Palm OS devices. Then, earlier this year, we were there when Jeff Hawkins announced the ill-fated Foleo at D5. We got the first ever hands-on of the thing, and eventually wrote a letter to Palm which not only prompted a public response from CEO Ed Colligan, but that many attributed as a cause of the Foleo's death. And lucky us (we think?), we managed to snag one of the few Foleos ever produced.
Wow, coming up to a month now. So how long is this going to take?
Did you guys lose the Foleo?
Sadly, those keep saying that Foleo is NOT a laptop and blame people (including Engadget) to cause the canning of Foleo totally miss the point.
Why is Foleo such a failure?
#1 "Foleo is not (marketed/designed as) a laptop!"
This is joke. Can't you see that most people out there do not SEE that Foleo is not a laptop? It has almost the same specs as a small laptop, with all too similar functionalities. How you market it does not mean how the market perceives it, and crucially it's the market who defines the nature of this kind of consumer electronic products.
#2 "Foleo is unique because it realizes a tight integration with Palm smartphones"
Again, this is another grave mistake.
Perhaps those insisting on this point sees the Palm smartphone market as the whole world.
The market of Palm smartphones is shrinking. Only a fragment of US consumers subscribing to the unlimited data plans can really benefit from this device.
*Most* mobile phone users worldwide do not own a Treo or even don't know what palm is.
The current Palm OS platform is already outdated and its functionality hasn't changed over the last solid five years.
Palm functionality? Isn't there already JPilot, Kpilot, Gnome-pilot...what have you, and also Evolution?
#3 "Foleo is not that expensive because of the mail-in rebate."
Again this is very american-centric. There is unlikely to be such thing outside the america.
I got my Eee PC 701 (black 4G) just for about 275 usd.
#4 "Foleo is all I need! I only do browsing, emailing and document editing on the go."
What so special about these use? Aren't these what most laptop and handheld users do on their machines?
Good brower? Can the one (modified Opera) on Foleo really fare as nicely as Firefox that also launches in a couple of seconds?
Email clients? In what sense is Foleo's better that the tons of choices in *nix?
Office suite? Does DTG come close to OpenOffice? Where is the international language support?
Additional software? Can someone give me a pointer to the development community for Foleo? How big is its software support compared to the *nix community? And SDK?
Instant on/off? Though not really instant, my Eee PC (running ubuntu) can suspend & resume in around 5 seconds.
Why the Eee PC is selling so fast (perhaps even faster than iPhone)? Are the buyers/users/sellers all out of their mind?
I don't like the Eee's small screen and it looks to much like a toy for me.
Getting close to 2 months past, still no reviews.
We foleofanatics havent forgotten about this Engadget. Where is it? :)
If they can make them cheap enough, add some educational software and sell it as an OLPC competitor. Would have loved a machine like this when I was at college. Hate lugging a large expensive laptop around. Would still like one for sitting in front of the TV and surfing.
@David Clark
Wow...couldn't have said it better myself. Engadget was WRONG on this one.
Wow, what happened to David Clark's response???? Did Engadget delete it??
I hold by the judgment. The Foleo is not only twice as much money as the Eee PC, it also strapped Palm for resources when they should have been focusing on fixing what already ails them. They just had one of their worst quarters ever because they can't even sustain their cellphone business -- the Foleo is a bad distraction and would have been a major mistake that put them even further behind the game.
Now, if Palm spun off their Foleo business so it didn't impact their phone business, that'd be another story entirely. But they didn't.
Money and specs doen't matter when two different time frames are in consideration. What I buy a laptop for today is no comparison to 5 or even 2 years ago.
Thanx for the delete. I look forward to another.
Ryan,
Asus is selling the eeepc by the boatloads. This has a better screen, keyboard and feel(according to various reports). This product would likely be selling just as well and helped swing the financials. Palm really needed to be relevent again. A new product category was the way to do it, not a new os for an old form factor.
I really think you missed the mark on this one, but most of the time I agree with you.
I'm gonna have to go with Ryan on this. If you look at the software hands on gallery, you can see that Palm is honestly confused as to what the Foleo is supposed to be used as. For instance the Foleo was built as a laptop, but Palm limited it by just creating the Foleo as a "companion" for your smartphone. If Palm had just stuck to making a laptop built for productivity, like most, or just something simple like the Eee Pc then the Foleo could have been more successful.
What people need to realize is that this is NOT a standalone laptop like the EEEpc or the OLPC. This was designed to work WITH your PalmOS-based Treo. So if you didn't already own a Treo (which is very likely considering Palm's diminishing market share), it doesn't make sense for you to buy a Foleo.
Palm had big dreams to use the Foleo to drive its sluggish Treo sales, but ended up with a product that at best could probably milk a little more money out of its shrinking existing user base.
That said, I am still a die hard user of my Treo 650. Aren't you guys supposed to give away what you review? If yes, can you please send it to me? Thanks!
This brings us back to a reveiw of the machien early on (I can't rmember who it was, if someone can find the link, put it up) where the reveiwer said the machien was nice and fun to use, but he thought Palm was going the wrong way in tying it to handhelds.
This could be an awesome Linux laptop with the incredible handheld compatibility just as an extra feature.
I don't really want Palm to enter the laptop business, but if I could get Ubuntu on this thing, and even keep the handheld compatibility, not only would I be taking this off to collage next year, but I would probably go out and buy a new PDA to complement it!
Ryan Block and Engadget really have to go into the douchebag Hall of Fame. Talk about bad journalism: they write a column that the Palm CEO evidently thinks is inflential enough to can the Foleo, and then Asus goes out and creates a runaway popular eeePC machine that fits into the exact same niche as the Foleo. Recently Palm laid off a boatload of engineers, one of whom is my cousin. Seriously, Ryan Block, if I could legally hit you with a car, I'd do it.
... you're much too inviting
1. Will it blend
2. Does it run OSX
3. Is it an iPhone
4. Is it mac compatable
5. Can i have it?
6. Why do you hate palm so much :'(?
clearly, you forgot to ask if it plays doom. I, and the rest of Engadget are thoroughly disappointed.
All our cliches are belong to paragraph.
Except that one.
Terminal !!!
This is what I wanted my NEC780 to do; 5 years ago.
OMG I THOUGHT IT DIED!! GO AWAY!! DIEE!!! NOOOO!!
Well are you happy Engadget? Have you done enough cradle-bound gadget-strangling to slake your dark thirsts for yet another year??!?!?!?
Can it run 16-bit game Emu's?
that would kick ass.
is there anyway, i can get this, money is not an issue.
engadget foleo giveaway!
I second sanjay for reals
I really do not see why you people despise Palm so much. I recently bought the "dated" Treo 650 and absolutely love it. For one thing, it does not have the many, many problems I encountered with Windows Mobile. Also, it's fast. Very fast. And, yes it plays DOOM with no problem.
You give the EEE PC so much coverage and act like it's magnificent, but this Foleo looks even better. Why you gotta be hatin' like that?
PS - Why are there scratches on your Foleo?
My wife has a Treo 650. It was nice to begin with, but began accumulating cruft over time, to the point where it's now slow and unstable. Whine about WinMo all you want, but you're going to be wishing for it in a year from now.
The reason everyone hates on the Foleo is because it was overpriced. Are you willing to spend $600 on a laptop that can't even play YouTube videos? I'm not. And no one else was. The software looks good, though - they could use that kind of wizard for doing BT phone connections in standard operating systems.
The EEE is cheaper and appeals to the mainstream market.
The EEE also has twice the power (albeit with a smaller screen) and uses a standard x86 processor, along with a more widespread inux distro.
I don't blame engadget for scuttling the Foleo, but I do wish Palm had released it. For me, it was a near perfect, laptop-killing, device. I would have used it in conjunction with a desktop machine and would have used the Foleo just for web-browsing, RDS'ing to my work computer when necessary, email, and low grade Office stuff (essentially what I use my laptop for now.) It would've been a crappy gaming device and if I were trying to run experiments to prove cold fusion, I'm sure I would've been disappointed. But guess what - I don't do that stuff for work. I just do my regular, uninteresting, work.
I would've been happy to be able to have a very lightweight, instant on, easy to use, sync with my phone, mobile experience, for just $500.
I hope the rumors of a Foleo II are true. I hope Palm's management has the courage of its convictions next time and, to the extent it happened this last time, doesn't allow itself to be bullied out of a business plan by the chattering masses. Honestly, after all the R&D and production work, just weeks away from the release, how much more would it have cost Palm to release the Foleo even if my sense of its marketability was wrong?
But the fact still remains that you can almost find a cheap laptop for $500 and it will be able to do way more than the foleo ever could.
The EEE pc is $200 cheaper, has a faster processor, and can do more than the foleo.
There is no denying that the Foleo is cool, but I think that Palm was right to kill it off.
...bung-holeo.
If you want to know why Palm is despised, take some time and research the products, the company, it's (former) operating system and it's community (If there is one left. I left long ago.) and watch how it took a great thing and let it decay into a mere shell of what it was due to slothfulness, greed, and corporate shenanigans.
Seriously Engadget, I come to your site so that I can find out about gadgets I WANT. I kind of dislike it when you take part in killing a gadget I want. This thing could have been an eee pc killer, but no, you had to kill it. As for the price- it would have come down with the eee as competition. I really don't think its your responsibility to tell corporations what is or is not a good business decision. The Foleo could have really helped palm. I'm not directing this at any particular engadget writer, but I am really disappointed in you guys.
Thanks a lot.
It would have never killed the EEE.
The EEE is cheaper and appeals to the mainstream market.
The EEE also has twice the power (albeit with a smaller screen) and uses a standard x86 processor, along with a more widespread inux distro.
This is NOT an Eee PC. It is not even a laptop. It is a companion to a failing PDA/Smartphone platform and an answer to a problem that does not exist for 99.9 percent of the tech users out there. Yeah it has a bigger screen, bluetooth, (WiFi? Can't remember) a bigger keyboard. But it sounds to me like a locked platform with a locked set of software. That's a deal killer for me and I think most people. I can not stress enough, the Folio and the Eee are NOT competing devices.
What is Engadget? They are a tech blog not a news site. My opinion is that they can post what ever they want. If they want to make an open letter to someone about something, what is wrong with that? Did the letter cause Palm to can the Folio? I think only Palm knows that for sure. So many of you have this pipe dream of what the Folio was going to be and how the price would drop to "compete" with things like the Eee PC.
Since they have one I do have questions about the Folio.
Am I wrong? Can you format the "disk" in the device and install any OS you want? If no can you install 3rd party apps? Are there Windows drivers? Does it have WiFi? Can you upgrade the RAM? Can you connect it to a VGA monitor? Ethernet? How much storage does it come with? Expandable via SD or some other format? These are the questions I have about the Folio.
- Kiteless
Yeah, it could have been cheaper. But the foleo is an eee killer TO ME. It looks better, has a larger screen, and I think its a little lighter. All I want is something small, instant on, that has a large screen so I can write on it without squinting, and also has wifi. This fills those perfectly, and I think that everyone here is just outright bashing it just to be on the bandwagon. I can only hope the Foleo II has a better CPU (hey palm, one word - silverthorne) and more ram.
Wow. So Endgadget is claiming to have made a fairly major corporate decision for Palm, eh?
Taking quite a bit of credit, no?
Why is Engadget reviewing a Powerbook Duo?
Hey, PowerBook Duo 2300s are kick-ass laptops.
Well, kick-ass for 1997.
I had set my wife up with a used one (and the whole DuoDock, etc.) when she was doing her graduate degree and it worked wonderfully for her.
But, yeah, I get the same feeling when I see a Foleo.
And.. not to beat a dead horse, but the idea of integrating two devices is one that I think will be a reoccurring theme. Not to bash Apple, I love my Apple products, but is the Newton going to be seen as a distraction from the Apple computer/iPhone/iPod world? And why buy it when you can get an ASUS for a quarter the price?
First gen products are always an expensive mess. And Palm would still be sinking, Foleo or not. But it would've at least given them a leg ahead of the oncoming flood of cheap pseudo laptops to come.
Supposed to be reply to topic 1
its palm's own fault for listening to bloggers. engadget didn't force them to stop production, they suggested it, and palm listened (maybe foolishly). Really shows the state of their market research team when they take business strategies from bloggers... If they are so keen on listening to bloggers then why haven't they updated their OS? The company is a mess and its not engadget's fault.
Youch, this looks very similar to System 7, right down to the fonts, maybe a striped down version though, Apple released created this gui in 1991.
Just as a refresher, check out this flash version of the old System 7 gui. http://www.my-old-macintosh.de/
would you have bought one of those if they had actually released them?
Ha, yup, looks like a Powerbook Duo running System 7 to me, this is about 15 years behind the times. Looks like Palm DID add a cell phone to it though... Not much in the way of progress considering it took them 1.5 decades to manage it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_Duo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_7_(Macintosh)
If the price was right, this could have been a great product! It does not appear all too different from the eee PC in scope. The only difference is that it had the additional feature of tight integration with other Palm products. It does not appear to be dependant on the Treo as I was previously led to believe, but could be its own stand-alone product with the Wifi only connection. I think Palm could resurrect this device, but they should probably wait until they have a new OS for their smartphones so the Foleo could integrate better with it.
I'm sorry, but both Palm and Engadget got it wrong here. That is abundantly clear with the current massive popularity of cheap small laptops.
wow, didn't realize they had ported Mac OS 9 for the Foleo... amazing!
I used the Foleo for a couple of months during the beta and loved it. too bad it didn't get released but I do see why it didn't tigher software intergation with the palm smartphone line up will make the foleo even better.
This was one of those things that people saw blue and complained its not red.
I'm disappointed this didn't make it to market. A small, notebook-like device that could tether out-of-the-box would have been great for those of us with unlimited data plans on our Treos...
It seems that if you drop a 32gb solid state drive in there, it rocks everyones world.
Ah what could have been. Palm comes so close, but then seems to either mess up the price point or the completeness.
I really like the concept of the Foleo and I would've bought one. I hope the Foleo II happens and I still like Palm even though it's going through a bad year. But it can be like the Phoenix and resurrect.
I would have bought this. Not because I'm an early adopter, but because this is just exactly what I need, a small, light, full keyboard for emails, basic browsing and basic document work... and I don't think I'm alone...
But do you $500-600 need it? Especially when the EEE pc is $300...
Yes, the most basic Eee PC is $300 versus $500 for the Foleo. For those of use with Sprint or Verizon, to tether we'd need PDAnet ($34) and a copy of Windows XP ($90). So it works out to be a more realistic ~$75 difference. Thats also based on the assumption you can install Windows on a 2G Surf. If not, add another $50 for the 4G.
Bottom line, the people most critical of the Foleo are the ones who don't understand its true purpose. Its not meant to be a laptop, its meant to be LIKE a laptop. There's a pretty strong difference between the two.
@Paul and xkevin
Why does every sole want to tell every other sole what to haunt. Foleo has a better screen and keyboard, the right stuff for me since I don't use lots of computer power 99.99% of the time.
Can't believe people missed the point of this device! I think it was a brilliant idea, but poorly executed, and priced. I dream of having an all inclusive, single device that will make me truly mobile. Problem is small devices are a pain when you are in full productivity mode... Thus the Folio (or something like it) would have been a great answer to the problem for the on the go business person... Porting your mobile device to a larger screen when needed is a cool idea! However, it shouldn't be proprietary, and it should have been cheaper... Once again Palm like so many other technology companies failed to listen to what users really want.
The Foleo would not have made you mobile. It's a laptop, and one by Palm at that, and it was positioned to sit between your PDA/smartphone and your desktop. Really... how would that make you mobile? Be dead honest with yourself: You wanted it because it was a gadget.
Why in the world would you want another device in that mix? Really? I know we all enjoy our gadgets around here, but don't you think that adding some sort of nebulous third device would just be inane? Yet another link in a chain that's always breaking?
I, personally, have even gotten rid of the PDA and the smartphone. I have a SLVR that gets great reception and works well as a phone (and just a phone) and a (real paper) notebook... and they work. And I don't have to troubleshoot the pen or paper.
I actually tossed my palm device in 99 and never looked back. Like you I went to a normal phone and conventional pen/paper... mostly because I was a poor person who couldn't afford pricey gadgets. Out of necessity (work) I moved to Windows Mobile in 2003 and was fairly please until Oct of this year and the release of WM6. I abandoned my WM6 and crossed over to the dark (light!) side and got an iphone. I cannot imagine ever looking back! However... I really would like an "iphone extender" that will port the OSX gui of my iphone to a larger screen and keyboard. I think it would be very nice... thats just me... I see a continued expansion of handheld functionality and increased desire for on the go people to streamline and simplify their electronics payload. I think that notebooks as we know them will become less and less popular, and handhelds will take their place, but people will always want a larger screen to be more productive... I think a builtin micro projector, and bluetooth keyboard & mouse would be amazing on something like an iphone!
Run A GIVEAWAY!
That's what I'm talking about.
#1. I want one
#2. What .. no Windows key?!
If you didn't need to still have your Treo, then it would have been cool, but you did, why do I want to carry two devices. Sadly, I believe the shift will be the same thing, no call ability. At least with teh shift, it has other abilities, but at 1k, the shift will be over priced. So these devices have good intentions, underdeveloped concpets, over priced, and poor executions.
M
Well, it was sweet of Palm to send you one...
Things I'd like to know from your Folio hands-on
I'd like to see a step by step on getting Palm and Windows Mobile 6 devices to sync email.
I tried a Treo 680, ran the included PimSyncInstaller.prc, but the Folio got an error when syncing to the phone.
I also tried a WinMo 6 phone, ran FoleoWindowsMobileSync.exe, but the phone would never sync.
Things I like;
The screen is large enough and scales web pages well - better looking than an old Dell 14" 4x3 laptop.
There is no hard drive, so it boots up right away and continues in the same spot as when you shut it off.
The storage is expandable (via SD and CF cards.)
5 hour battery life? I did not time it, but I was able to browse with WiFI and BT enabled for over an hour per night, for three nights in a row. It still had power left.
Things I didn't like;
Keyboard navigation - there is a Alt key, but it's not as useful as ctrl-key combinations on a PC. You can get to application shortcuts via the Menu key, but that's slower.
CF card for memory expansion? I thought I would only see smaller formats going forward - Mini-SF on the Treo 680, Micro-SD on the Centro.
I'd like to have included software for media playing functions. The screen is a good size for watching a movie or music video. The included pTunes can't be the best solution available, is it? DivX and Xvid support would be nice, along with the ability to paly content without going through some time consuming conversion process.
Anyhow, I won't spend much time on anything else until email is working.
Hey, how about a motorized desktop station like the Apple DuoDock? Slot load your Folio! Oh, how about multiple Folios in a...er.. file cabinet. Charge them up together, maybe make a Folio Cluster, for SMP Folding. That's it, a Folio File Folding cabinet LOL!
Am I the only one who sees the Wifi is only B? No G? WEAKSAUCE.
I consider that we need an more professional foleo ,use to business work and view the web easy and fast!That's point!
Thanks for helping stifle capitalism, Commies.
I'm getting so pissed seeing these online and not getting my hands on one. I was even ready to fly to Boston just to visit the Palm store in the airport to buy one. Hey Palm, I want one. I'm willing to pay $$$$.
Dec. 28th... the day I stopped reading Engadget. And you guys should be the last to point fingers about '1999' technology and forced page reloads with your borderline abusive ad structure. Your page takes forever to load, and it's not because it's filled with rich content or clever editorials. On top of all that, deleting comments? Ouch. It's almost 2008, Engadget. I need a cleaner, smarter tech blog.
Smarter blogs... DON'T moderate their comments?
That's funny, because the pattern is usually the more prestigious the publication, the more moderated the comments. Even still, we have one of the most open comment systems around.
It's pretty easy though. Don't say something trollish or salacious and you won't have your comments removed.
Hmmm... if you stopped reading engadget, how did you manage to post a comment on this story?
I really wanted a Foleo and still do, but I think folks are giving engadget way too much credit for killing it. About 90% of the tech media panned the Foleo. That just means that only the top 10% were smart enough and forward thinking enough to "get it."
Oh Palm, you have such potential, and seldom is it realized.
I had a Tungsten and even a Palm Watch back in the day, and bought the Treo 650 when it first came out because it did "everything." I had to scour the web a bit to find all the applications needed to make it work the way I wanted it to, but never added WiFi or GPS hardware extensions. I always thought you should package different bundles to different target markets (mp3 player with visualizations for teens, GPS with voice for the commuter, relevant document view caller ID for the Executive). I have a Blackberry for work, and it's not nearly as versatile.
Anyway, back to the Foleo. I could have been your target market. I bought an iPod, loved it, so I bought a Mac Book to replace my PC. I know the Foleo wasn't even close to being a Mac, but I could still surf the web, write documents, listen to music, and it would have been half the price. I'm sure the same people that made apps for my Treo would have figured out how to put video on the screen too. For those of us that hate Microsoft and want something usable instead of "powerful," you could have been another option. Ergonomics is the achilles heel of Windows. (When I saw the 700W, a little part of me died).
Palm, the Treo was your blockbuster hit, but you haven't done much since. Blackberry for business, Apple for youth, Microsoft for the masses, where are you? If you're for the techies that read engadget, give us something expandable so we can mod the hell out of it, write apps to emulate anything, and keep a simple stable OS at the core.
I would like to know if it would be possible to replace the existing OS with another (eg, WinXP, Ubuntu Linux).
How hackable is the device?
The one thing going for the Asus EEE pc is the fact that people can modify the hell out of it. I would like to know if the same is true of Foleo.
If this was more like the eee pc, it may have not gotten all of the negative press about it and maybe would be successful??
Does is have the following net appls in terminal?
Ping, tftp, ftp, netstat, telnet.
Actually that's not the first time showing of Foleo,about one month ago there's guy have it,you can find it here,with some of description&discussion in Chinese:
http://www.hi-pda.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=386610
http://www.hi-pda.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=389114
I think the range of comments to this post is all the market research Palm should have needed. Some people love the Foleo, others really didn't. Palm didn't need to sell one to everyone, just to a large enough group that wanted one. This product was cancelled four months ago and was never in production, but there are still people out here begging for one. Well, that's demand, right? If only there were some supply....
I was so obsessed the Foleo. Couldn't stop talking about it.
I loved it because it was just what I needed--a portable, light and fast device that would allow me to go online, check my emails and write and edit documents. An it could sync with my Treo, too.
Imagine my disappointment when it was announced that Palm would no longer bring it to the market.
I guess I'd just settle for the EEE while waiting for Foleo II.
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Foleo掛的比 ePC早啦!跟 ePC有啥關係?
Come on Palm! We are routing for you. You had the best os on the PDA's and it's inside there somewhere to bring out something wicked in 2008! Palm os was great!
Engadget really screwed up on this one!
I have two college students that would have loved this, not to mention myself for business applications. Laptops are nice, but lugging them around gets old. Instant on and off is the way to go. Maybe the whole package wasn't there yet, but Palm should come out with this, or else I'll have to visit Asus.
every time I look at the pictures I find it harder to forgive engadget for boasting about playing a role in axing the Foleo, which is really really not the way I feel about engadget over all other stuff on the site
...if you guys don't like it, i'll take it! looks great to me. 50% of all my computer activity is on the web, and, since it seems to have a decent browser, many could have purchased this and survived with ONLY a mobile broadband connection rather than paying both bills every month.
seriously, if you don't like it...
(A) Do any of you work as tech journalists? If so, you're excused. If not, what right do you have to criticize what Ryan Block and others write on this site? They put in a large amount of time to keep Engadget going, and complaining over such a petty thing as their OPINION on a device is simply absurd.
(B) The Foleo is a device unto itself, untested and never-before-seen, and as such there was a high probability of failure. In all honesty, a device that could only connect to a small and shrinking base of phones, especially with the iPhone taking such a large percent of the smartphone market, was simply bad judgment. I think that it could have been a revolutionary device a few years ago, when ultraportables were ultraexpensive, and Treos were hot stuff, but now it would have been a terrible move on Palm's part, and I agree with Ryan on that.
(C) Because the Foleo is so unique, you cannot compare it to anything else, nor could you claim it as an anything-killer. The eee is a full-fledged (so to speak) machine, capable of running Linux or XP, preloaded with educational and office software, and a great little self-contained computer, none of which the Foleo does. The ultraportable market are, again, self-contained computers, usually with data connections, completely bypassing the need for a Treo. The Foleo has essentially lost its niche, requiring the purchase of a mid-priced device as well as a Treo to fulfill any sort of incentive.
(D) Nowhere did Engadget openly claim responsibility for shutting down the Foleo. They acknowledged that Ed Colligan actually noticed their 2800 word, well-composed letter, and was actually doing something about it. They even said that "many attribute(d) [their letter] as a cause of the Foleo's death." Keywords there are "many" and "a cause". Not THE cause, and not "Palm specifically said that we are awesome, and they suck, and we now dictate everything they do." Lay off of Ryan and the rest of the dedicated staff, and instead give thanks that they work so hard to bring you such a great and up-to-date blog, and accept the occasional opinion in stride. Engadget is the first and last page I check every day, and I will be the first to thank them for working so hard for us, the public. Thanks, guys!
-Noah
Who made you boss of who can criticize what?
Any idea of when the review will be posted?
So did you guys forget about this review?
Too busy kissing up to Apple?
So Endgadget where's your review? :) I have been waiting for it since you posted this last year! we're 2 weeks into the year already :)
The review won't be published because the Engadget folks actually kind of fell in love with the Foleo. Instant on, lightweight, rugged. The anywhere, anytime writing machine.
A glowing review would a bit embarrasing considering their initial opinions.
I was thinking the same thing!
Brings up a good point, they should of waited until getting a demo unit before going out of there way to trash it!
thats the best comment i have ever seen in this article :D