Poll: How do you want us to write the Jobsnote? Top to bottom, or vice versa?
By Ryan Block 
posted Jan 13th 2008 5:41PM
posted Jan 13th 2008 5:41PM
Oh, and don't forget, Steve's Macworld 2008 keynote goes down here.
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keep it bottom! Some of us have events and have to miss the liveblogging. When we get home, we would like to scroll down reading it, like traditional articles.
actually, scratch that. Give us two options when we hit the keynote page. I aim to please also.
We'll probably reorder it later if people choose bottom to top.
So basically liveblog it bottom to top, and then switcheroo once its complete? I like that idea and would like to vote for it :P
I don't read any of the livebloggings until they're finished anyway.
I like the idea of live blogging it with the newest stuff at top, and then afterward switch it around.
Ryan, I AM GLAD! that someone like you is editor in chief of Engadget! So smart, man! So smart
the live at top then switching is a great idea!
sometimes with autoreload on it sticks to the same height of the page, so i'll go off doing something else and never notice that something new was just announced
Don't mind the new way, but I would still like oldest to newest since I'll probably be busy during the keynote. Anything is still better than Gizmodo where they have a new post for every 5 mins of the keynote
stop spamming my inbox!!! AHHHH! too many, too many......
one must consider the unfortunate collateral of "first post", friend.
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ps I would like the latest at top, then if possible switched around after, would be good.
It's kinda pointless to have new updates at the top because you read down to where the new updates are, then as new updates appear you just refresh your page and it takes you back to the exact same spot you were on before you hit refresh. Why have to scroll down then read up, which isn't how people read naturally?
Cubs, never, ever, say you are getting spammed.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/14/readers-pick-best-webcomic-rare-candy/#c6714528
Newest at top.
How about you mix it up?
Like have the times in this order 4:50 PM, 5:04 PM, 4:56 PM, 4:52 PM, 4:42 PM, 5:09 PM. So you have to look and order it yourself!
Sorry man!
It was too tempting!
Make sure to un-click next time!
i like the new stuff at the top
Agreed! It's a huge spoiler for us who can't be there from the beginning if you update topside. I'd definitely find another live coverage in that case.
Bottom please!
Too much of a hassle to scroll UP to read
you could just hit the page up key a couple times, or the home key once. you know, that key on your keyboard you almost never use..
New updates at the top. That way when I'm on my phone I don't have to scroll all the way down.
I think it's best to do it from top to bottom (newest at the top, obviously) but once the Keynote is finished, reverse it to the correct early to end order.
I guess it doesn't matter, I'm going to read it in chronological order regardless of how you do it. So it will basically just make me start from the top or bottom. No big deal for me.
Keep the most important updates at the top. Or bolded. Or pink. You know, so I dont have to read about how many iPhones or iTunes songs Apple has sold.
I'm just going to have to find a way to get away with reading the blog in my math class. It'll be easier if i don't have to flick my finger up and down for half a mile each time i refresh.
New at the bottom is a nice flow, I'd donate $5 into a pot to have the keynote play-by-play be a ad-free page... ah a man can dream.
use m.engadget.com
it's supposed to be for phones, but wtheck it works anyways.
Ads are fine; they're great, and they're helpful. I see no point to removing them from the page. If it weren't for ads I wouldn't know about system76 or emperorlinux or some other great businesses like that.
...unless you mean the intrusive, worthless, bandwidth consuming ones I don't see anyway. Animation? FAIL. I pay too dearly for this internet connection to waste it on things not at all relevant to my life. Microsoft products? Again, FAIL.
If the ad is helpful, I click on it, look around the site, and if its what I'm looking for, I remember it to buy something later. That's the point of ads, right?
hahahaaa
really nice of you to ask that lol cuz each time i refresh the page to see the new ones, it takes a century to scroll down and see the updates
Then get a better browser. Most browsers automatically scroll to the same height as before the refresh, so you don't have to scroll down. I believe that at least Safari, Firefox and Camino do this.
safari does this, but after reloading all the page's contents, which takes a lots of time
Same with Firefox. Re-scrolls only after all the content is loaded... and, thanks to "ar.atwola", that takes forever.
I like the standard/traditional/old way. It makes it easy to see new updates (the page jumps down to where you left off when you hit refresh), and it also makes it easy to go back a little bit to see the pics as they update.
It only does that after everything has already loaded...
Hello! :)
I see that bottom-to-top is winning in the poll, like it should. We have slow connections in India and it would be a relief if I didn't have to reload the whole page again and again. If the newest updates are at the top, I can stop the loading once the unread ones are loaded.
So, basically, please do it bottom-to-top and then reverse it later.
Thank you! :)
I imagine there would be some selection bias in this survey. Those casual readers who would be confused by a "top to bottom" layout are unlikely to vote in the poll. The die hard users clicking refresh every 2 seconds however are likely to vote.
On the other hand, the people who are "confused" probably won't care either way, whereas the diehard proponents will finally be satisfied.
Updates at the top PLEASE. When there are a lot of pics, as you usually put, it's a mess to scroll all the way down to read the news and pics are loading in between, so your eyes go crazy.
I don't care. Keep it top to bottom like everything else. BUT get a decent camera, not the POS cameras that were used at CES.
New stuff at top. I nearly wore out my scroll wheel last time. And image load/page reformat is a pain while you are trying to catch up.
How about:
oldest
Kinda old
Not quit so new
Newest
Almost newest
Somewhat old
Almost old
Or
Oldest to newest, but have the newest item also displayed at the top, or two columns one side of screen top down other bottom up...
Or organized by how much we care, for example:
iPhone 2.0
New Mac Tablet
...
...
iPod firmware update
...
...
New Griffin iPod dock
@Reader
Since when has an iPod firmware update been important?
Not to me, that's for sure, but tons more than another iPod dock.
Oldest to newest is the only sensible way to go, you can always go to http://www.engadget.com/#end and scroll up a bit.
eg
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/13/poll-how-do-you-want-us-to-write-the-jobsnote-top-to-bottom-o#end
good ol' html.
comment mangled by engadget/bloghype "markup."
Let's try this...
http://www.engadget.com/[story path]#end
Whatever way appeases the iTards.
The windows people don't care because we have the "scroll" function.
Hooray for decent mice bundled with computers!
are you serious? I have been scrolling on my mac for years
I think you mean "troll function"