It's here. Dell's 24-inch, Ultrasharp
2408WFP monitor is up and dancing on Dell's US page. $748 buys into a 1,900 x 1,200 resolution, 178-degree viewing angle, 1,300:1 contrast ratio, 400 cd/m2 brightness, 6-ms response, and 102% color gamut. Standard stuff until you get to the vast suite of jacks: HDMI, 2x DVI, DisplayPort, VGA, Composite, S-Video, Component, a single USB upstream, and 2x USB downstream. Just another reason why Round Rock, Tejas is the world's focal point for computer monitors. Who'd have thunk?
[Thanks, Brad]
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posted Jan 17th 2008 1:13AM
Hey Morbizz, did Dell tell you the 2408fpw will finally be shipping in 3-4 weeks?
I too am dying to get one.
well all the links to buy are dead now and it is not in the store as of today
I ordered one in January 30th, yesterday my order was cancelled and replaced by a 2407WFP that I do not ordered, I called asking why they cancelled and replaced my original order, they said me that some production problems happened and to avoid a long waiting for me they decided to sent me a "better" monitor. ....What? ...I cancelled this new order and I am waiting for a the 2408. Sorry for my english, regards from Mexico.
They also cancelled my order around the same date. I had them re-create a new order. Now I have an expected ship date of 2/21 with overnight shipping. tick tick tick...
A few days ago there was a massive fire at an Asian facility that makes the flat panels. 24 production lines have been knocked out. This company supplies 24% of HPs, 20% of Dells, and various other companies LCD panels for their monitors. Expect most companies to start seeing some shortages.
Best thing to do with Dell is to stick with your demand that your order be processed and not let them try to change the game on you. Let them know that they are welcome to take their time, just keep your order locked in.
The 2408WFP 24" is back up and available for order ... mine has a scheduled delivery date of March 11th.
...I just made the move from a Apple cinema Display to the new DELL 2408WFP and I can assure you guys it's going back into the box and to the hole it cam from...
...Specs on paper doesn't mean a thing compare to real life experience...My 3 years Cinema Display look sharper better in all the ways but the thing that make me really mad is that color effect around small type...Instead of being black you have a small color effect around the black, mostly red...I makes you wont to focus all the time but the problem is not your eyes, it's the monitor...
...Very disappointed, do you self a favor, stick with Apple Cinema Displays please...
The apple cinema monitor uses a top line LCD panel. And for the same size, the price of apple is way up there. It's not a fair comparison with dell 240xWFP monitor. Just my 2-cents.
...Yeah welll I know that now, I was in that impression because people on blogs always compare theses 2 together and when you look at the specs on paper seems to be a good move, but it's not...! Also on top of what I already wrote, the screen take for ever to come out of sleep for some reason...? And there allot taring when playing games and the specs says 6MS...? It's taring more then my Apple Cinema Display and the Apple Cinema Display is 14MS...?
...Also why I took that route was because I have a feeling that Apple will update is display anytime soon, so I was looking for a cheep alternative but I will probably just wait and continue using y Apple Cinema Display for now...
There are two links which are worth to read.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2049206&enterthread=y
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Cinema_Display
I was hoping the 24" Refresh would've adopted the design of the new 30" 3008.
Sigh... secretly I weep tears of pain.
I do like this design though. I have the 2007 WFP monitor, and it looks quite sharp
I'm glad it didn't, I didn't like the new design.
Hit 4ms or lower response already.
Why low ranked? Do you p*ssies wanna hold technology back like the HD-DVD group does? :p
I'm hoping for this, but with LED backlighting.
I'll stick w/ my 2407.
Heh, I already own a few of the 2407's and I don't really mind the design, personally I prefer it over the 3008 design.
Anyway, the exciting news is the 102% NTSC color gamut, and 1080p component input (finally).
PS: Engadget, the 2408 actually has 4 USB ports, two on the bottom and two on the side next to the card reader.
I think Dell is confused...they're thinking, "it may be a monitor but with TV inputs...AHA!" That makes as much sense as Bush getting re-elected in 2004...lol
Really? Because I kinda like the idea of having all those input options. I don't own a television, partly because I'm currently in college and partly because I really couldn't give less of a damn about 98% of what is on tv these days. That said I do like video game consoles, though I don't have one of those either (last one was a sega genesis, and it got stolen, go figure). But I couldn't really get one and use it too well if I wanted to, the whole not having a television and only having a laptop thing hinders my display options a bit. I think it would be nice to have a monitor with all sorts of inputs so I could plug a console or anything else into it. I'm sure there is plenty of video equipment you could plug straight into this, especially older stuff, and considering the price of hidef media drives, it could even be nice to plug a normal Blu-Ray player into something like that. I don't think the inclusion of options that Joe PC User might not have a use for is anywhere nearly as brain dead of a desecion as the re-election of everyone's favorite least-favorite president was.
Why not have the inputs? They don't really make the monitor all that much more expensive considering it's only real competitors from Samsung, NEC, and Apple all have about the same price and lack the inputs.
I have an Xbox 360 hooked up to a 2407 right now.
It's actually one of the best features of the 240x series.
Matt, how? 2407 doesn't have HDMI
There are two ways to hook up a 360 to a 2407, over HDMI -> DVI, or via component.
my friend...i really highly doubt the use of such a small TV...I would rather go with a 40" Samsung TV that has better contrast ratio and all the inputs that this "Monitor" has...since it has so many ports this should be compared to the Samsung TV line which has PC inputs...and I own one of the newest one of these TV's (4071F) and I would say that that is a better way to go than a tiny "Monitor" TV...but this is my opinion...
hey at least its still a pva! was worried with the recent samsung release being TN.
Link to Buy:
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&kc=&oc=2408wfp
Not too bad for $699 (3yr warranty)
I'm wondering... where the heck is Tejas at? is that like... in Mexico or something?
Texas but with Spanish spelling.
At that price it must not be TN, thank god. TN is garbage. Terrible terrible garbage. Actually its worse than garbage, its like garbage poop. TN should be illegal.
Perfect. Release a new 240_ model before fixing the terrible ghosting issues with the 2407-HC ones. i had three with the same issue and kind of just settled on turning the gain down as a workaround on my latest one.
Take a look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1mN6lYAJzE&feature=related
and on the dellcommunity forums, 74 pages and counting:
http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_monitor&thread.id=81254&view=by_date_ascending&page=74
Wait for the reviews before getting this.
I have two of these 'HC' monitors, and upgraded from the first 2408's. One of my HC monitors too was plagued by this ghosting issue, but it's fairly easy to fix. I had color calibrated the monitors and turned up the red on one of them to 98%. By turning the red down to 96% (to match the settings of my second monitor), all my ghosting issues were gone. From what I've found, if you jack up all the brightness, contrast & color settings to max, then yes, you will have ghosting. Of course at those settings, everything else looks like crap too.
My main problem with the latest generation in design is that their stands lost about 3 inches in max height. I now have to put boxes under my monitors to keep them at eye level.
glad they kept the same design. now i can get a clone of my 2407 with upgraded features. dual here i come.
First company to make a monitor w/ any combination of 3 digital inputs gets my money...2 hdmi 1 dvi, 2 dvi 1 hdmi w/e
This one here has 4 digital inputs...
yeup....and i dont need display port, or USB, or s video, or component...that instantly makes my magic 400 dollar monitor jump up to 750. I like 400 more than 750.
Any chance that Dell add a webcam at some point ? It would be a killer screen
Er...with component or VGA?
Well yeah but that's kinda a waste, thus the point of getting the 2408
This is pretty much the BenQ FP241W which came out over a year ago...Except the BenQ is brighter, has slightly lower contrast, and no displayport, and only 1 dvi. Basically BenQ did it first...way first, and Dell is doing it barely better on paper at least. With panel choices by the manufacturers, my vote would still be for the BenQ, it's the most beautiful monitor I've ever seen.
Don't forget that it's like, $100 cheaper off newegg?
You do understand that this is a high quality monitor, and depending on what your doing with it you will most likely ghost. TN panels (CHEAP, NO GHOST FAST MS)
I want this baby:)
102% color gamut? How would that work? Does it show infrared?
It shows both purple AND violet.
I think 120% means it can show more than the required number of colours in the NTSC Gamut Color standard or something.
Basically 100% color gamut means you can show all the colours in that standard, 120% means you can display 20% more colours than that standard.
The standard rating is with the NTSC color gamut, which is now being surpassed by the latest hardware. The Adobe color gamut (about 50% of all perceptible colors) is quite a bit larger and quickly becoming the standard for many upper-end digital cameras.
Adobe also has the 'Adobe Wide Gamut RGB' color space, this allows for about 78% of all visible colors to be rendered.
So what kind of panel is it?
Nice looking stats anyway. Input lag could still be a hanging issue (forgot what site out there was keeping running measurements on that).
What bothers me is the 400cm/m brightness is very good, but the 30" models can't match this and cost more...it makes the 30's overpriced, imo.
Good monitor to see some testing on.
its 1920x1200, not 1900
I have the older model and it's the best monitor I've ever bought, hands down. It rocks the apple cinema display in terms of color accuracy and sharpness plus it has more inputs and outputs. I've never had a single ghosting issue with it, nor any other problems. BTW - I know color and good displays, it's my job as a graphic designer to keep my hardware proper. If this one bests the old model in any way possible, it owns almost any other monitor on the market.
Hmmm... no integrated web cam?
I've seen earlier incarnations of this monitor, and they are really nice.
Break out the coupons!
Just short of real 1920x1080 Hi-Def.
What?! Last I checked, 1920x1200 surpasses "real" 1920x1080 HD...
It's not a TV if you cannot connect an antenna to it. It has no tuner so it is a monitor.
I wonder who actually makes it. Dell subs out most of its components. I am an NEC guy myself. I have loved their monitors for 18 years. My first 15 inch Syncmaster is an awesome display. I still use it for 720P in my office.
Does the card reader do SDHC now? That is the one limitation (well, besides only 1 digital in) of my 2407.
What a piece of crap. $700+? Go buy the Acer with gloss screen, the exact same panel, HDMI, and 2ms response time! Oh and did I meniton it's under $500?
Um, yeah and it's a TN panel, which means crappy colors, viewing angle and contrast compared to this, which is likely a PVA screen. Might want to learn something about display technologies before recommending **** like that above a real monitor.
Maybe you should not be such a nerd about displays. I bet you own neither, so what can you say?
you are obviously some sort of idiot
Wow, way to troll page 2 of a post made days ago. My argument has valid points. Yours does not.
Got one ordered yesterday. Will be a good replacement for my Dell 2001fp I've had for the last 7 years. Thanks for the heads-up!
It has been asked many times, but I will ask again....What type of panel is it? Does it still use the Samsung LTM240CS or is it different? For those that claim it is a PVA, where did you find this info? Perhaps I am hoping invain for an S-IPS like it's 30 inch big brother.
Brian - believe its a Samsung LTM240CS02. Some details; http://lcd24-7.info/Monitor/Dell/Ultrasharp-2408WFP/Default.aspx and http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_parts.htm.
I ordered it on the night of 1/16 when that link was posted, and they cancelled it today, 1/18, trying to sell me the 2407. So it's not officially available yet, but they are just getting ready. They told me to come back and order it when it is officially out.
No wonder my order hasn't gone anywhere yet!
I ordered one on 1/17
They did not cancel and sent me several emails confirming my 2408 shipment and dhl info for its delivery.
Today a 2407 arrived.
Dell crap!
Same scenario as morbizz. Ordered 2408, got 2407 with no email asking if that was what I wanted. Idiots!
Followup. After numerous calls and applying pressure to Dell... and requesting equivalent functionality ...alla their license terms...meaning "ship my 2408 or replace with an 3008fpw", LOL.
Dell has given me a $75 off coupon. Committed to retuning my existing order and doing a replacement swap (not a new order.. .don't want that as the price may go up) for the 2408fpw when it becomes available in 3 to 4 weeks.
Time will tell ????