Been with Sprint for 8 years, once my contract is up in a few months I'm ditching them...
even though the HTC Touch seems decent, I'm not going to get it...
...will be switching to AT&T b/c I am sick of all the CDMA phones where you are stuck with a particular phone and have horrible choices. I want to have the freedom of a SIM card, to use any phone I want from across the world and maybe even switch between phones on the same day if I feel like it.
uh.. maybe it's just because you have crappy sprint (I used to), but over here at verizon, you can change your phone, for free, in 2 minutes flat, whenever you want. just punch in the ESN on the my account page, and dial *228 from the phone, press 1 and PRESTO. I do it often.. 3 lines, upgrading all the time, never lose contacts, don't have to worry about breaking a sim card, and unlike GSM, I get signal in my house.
depending on your area, GSM may offer you better signal than CDMA.. but don't knock CDMA devices for something that they ARE actually capable of, just because you don't want to research before you open your cake hole.
as for choices? sprints choices suck.. not ours. we have the voyager, the enV, the chocolate 1 and 2, the venus, several blackberry's, some of the new motos, a couple palm devices, some HTCs (including the new 5800), the mogul, the samsung sch-i760 (keypad, winmo pro, slider qwerty)... the list goes on and on.. you guys have the rumor and the touch.
not verizon's fault that you chose the WRONG cdma carrier... don't blame choices in cellular phones on the fact that your carrier is ghetto and stale.
/rant over
(ps. no, I don't work for verizon, I'm just a well-informed consumer that looks up information before he posts and has had an excellent experience with verizon.)
No, the mistake I made was picking a CDMA carrier period. Sprint and Verizon both have some good phones but you missed my point. You are still stuck with their selections and can't switch up whenever you want to w/o having to call them and get the new one activated and deactivate the old one.
Does Verizon allow you to buy a phone from Korea or anywhere else that will not get released in the US for several years?
Why wait....you can ditch sprint now if you really want to...they changed everyones terms and conditions effective Jan 1 2008, call up cancellation and tell them that they have breached your agreement (the original terms and conditions you agreed to) and therefore you contract is void and you will not pay the early termination fee. I was charging people 85 bucks to get them out their contract with no fee...if only they knew my little secret lol. I mean i didnt do this to any of my friends or nothing, only to the other suckers and a hand full of people on criags list..lol. And i got them to put a note in my account stating that as of jan 15 2008 i was now on a month to month contract and would not have to pay any cancellation fees as my contract was void (but of course in the system im still under contract since there is no way to take that off, with out actually canceling your line) but you only have till the end of the month to do this unless they will tell you that you by default have agreed to the new terms if you are paying ur bill and have made no complaint...o and the touch is pretty wack, i had it since it came out, and went through like 3 of them, looks cool, hot for factor, but extremely wack device. Windows mobile and touch based usage shld never be put together at least not until they decided to make an OS that is designed for that, and not HTC just trying to add some touch features to it. Other than that insane memory and ram (compared to mogul) the touch is really crap. And good luck on dealing with that bug that plagued the mogul in which the phone at times wont wake up to alert you of text messages or incoming calls. I sent HTC a long message about that..only for them to tell me they are aware of the problem but its not their fault, they said it was sprints fault cause of the stuff sprint decided to add to it...lol..what a response that was..O and this part of the response is not for the above post..more for the people down below that said they are waiting for the touch, and for engadget for saying "If it's simply the same Sprint hardware we know and love repackaged in white"...LOL YEA RIGHT!!!!
will that phone be able to use the advanced systems on that network? like the TV I have on my voyager? will it properly be able to receive messages that are over 160 characters? will it be able to properly send/receive video/picture messages? will you be able to understand the foreign characters on the menus? I mean, I'm all for having a phone that you can change often, I'm all for a phone with a high MP camera, I'm all for a phone that's slimmer.....
but the prices on imported phones are rediculous, don't have a warranty (they'll replace mine for nothing, and I pay 7 bucks a month for the super warranty/insurance), and they can't interact with the special features that every provider has.
not to mention.... I DON'T GET GSM SIGNAL IN MY HOUSE. My point was to illustrate that it's not everyone's bag.. you didn't say "there aren't enough phones that IIIIIII like" you said "where you are stuck with a particular phone". So I was just posting my opinion because I figured a retort on what YOU think that some of US want in the way of phones, is incorrect.
and you still didn't read what I wrote.. I don't have to call Verizon for JACK. I get on my verizon page from ANY computer, put in the esn of the phone I want to switch to, dial a 3 digit number from my phone and BAM, I'm using that other phone. No gold contacts on a sim card to wear out, no card to lose all my contacts on, and no "SIM card won't register on network" error like I used to get with crappy SunCom (what AT&T used to be in my area).
so, what you're talking about is trading one list of problems from your provider... to ANOTHER list of problems with another provider.... but the way you worded it made it sound like you were trying to account for someone other than yourself.
also, as I previously stated (and you skimmed over)... you were wrong about me being able to change my phone in 2 minutes on a whim. I do that all the time, 24 hours a day, without having to talk to a single person at verizon (not that I would mind, they're the best cell phone customer service I've ever had to speak with).... and I've had T-Mo, Sprint, Prime-Co (previous name of Ntelos in my area), AT&T (in the form of SunCom), and now Verizon. So, two GSM and three CDMA carriers and out of all of them, Verizon is the best in my area (and in Rhode Island where I travel once a year).
You're welcome to your opinion, but base it on facts... not what you know over at sprint.. they're not run the same way as Verizon and shouldn't be held to the same issues that sprint has given you.
I was with Verizon for 8 years and yes, their service is far better than Sprint or AT&T, but the crap they do to disable features on their phones forced me to leave. I've been with AT&T for three months and I have dropped more calls than the entire time I was with Verizon, but I can do everything that was built into my phone from HTC and/or MS. Verizon needs to learn to bring phones out that aren't six months to a year behind the curve, and then lacking in features (bluetooth, WiFi, etc. disabled).
I'll also give Verizon credit for the insurance option on any phone for a few dollars a month. AT&T doesn't offer insurance on smartphones as "they are too expensive." WTF?
true about the features... but with winmo phones, it's easy to fix.. thanks to microsoft. all verizon can do with a smartphone is make registry entries that black out the features.. on my xv6700 I was able to find a registry entry using howard forums and turned dial up networking back on so that I could tether to my laptop over bluetooth.. I also had WiFi on that phone (it wasn't disabled....), I also had a treo 700w and I was able to turn the GPS feature and the dial up networking back on with that one as well. with both of those smartphones I was able to tether over bluetooth (so no wires) and with my voyager, I have dial up networking enabled, I can't tether over bluetooth but having the cable going from my voyager to my laptop keeps it charged when I'm riding passenger in the car.. and the speed/signal is great.
so with the smartphones running winmo, it's just a registry entry away.. as for their "dumbphones" it's still possible to get some of the features back (and sometimes it's pretty easy). I upload all of my own free ringers over the cable THEY supplied, with bitpim and I have over 200 wallpapers that I made from some of the awesome work over at deviantart... so I still get the features that I want.. and no one else has the voyager. ;)
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Green @ Jan 18th 2008 12:21AM
Been with Sprint for 8 years, once my contract is up in a few months I'm ditching them...
even though the HTC Touch seems decent, I'm not going to get it...
...will be switching to AT&T b/c I am sick of all the CDMA phones where you are stuck with a particular phone and have horrible choices. I want to have the freedom of a SIM card, to use any phone I want from across the world and maybe even switch between phones on the same day if I feel like it.
Prokanda @ Jan 18th 2008 12:36AM
uh.. maybe it's just because you have crappy sprint (I used to), but over here at verizon, you can change your phone, for free, in 2 minutes flat, whenever you want. just punch in the ESN on the my account page, and dial *228 from the phone, press 1 and PRESTO. I do it often.. 3 lines, upgrading all the time, never lose contacts, don't have to worry about breaking a sim card, and unlike GSM, I get signal in my house.
depending on your area, GSM may offer you better signal than CDMA.. but don't knock CDMA devices for something that they ARE actually capable of, just because you don't want to research before you open your cake hole.
as for choices? sprints choices suck.. not ours. we have the voyager, the enV, the chocolate 1 and 2, the venus, several blackberry's, some of the new motos, a couple palm devices, some HTCs (including the new 5800), the mogul, the samsung sch-i760 (keypad, winmo pro, slider qwerty)... the list goes on and on.. you guys have the rumor and the touch.
not verizon's fault that you chose the WRONG cdma carrier... don't blame choices in cellular phones on the fact that your carrier is ghetto and stale.
/rant over
(ps. no, I don't work for verizon, I'm just a well-informed consumer that looks up information before he posts and has had an excellent experience with verizon.)
Green @ Jan 18th 2008 12:40AM
No, the mistake I made was picking a CDMA carrier period. Sprint and Verizon both have some good phones but you missed my point. You are still stuck with their selections and can't switch up whenever you want to w/o having to call them and get the new one activated and deactivate the old one.
Does Verizon allow you to buy a phone from Korea or anywhere else that will not get released in the US for several years?
UBONG @ Jan 18th 2008 12:20PM
Why wait....you can ditch sprint now if you really want to...they changed everyones terms and conditions effective Jan 1 2008, call up cancellation and tell them that they have breached your agreement (the original terms and conditions you agreed to) and therefore you contract is void and you will not pay the early termination fee. I was charging people 85 bucks to get them out their contract with no fee...if only they knew my little secret lol. I mean i didnt do this to any of my friends or nothing, only to the other suckers and a hand full of people on criags list..lol. And i got them to put a note in my account stating that as of jan 15 2008 i was now on a month to month contract and would not have to pay any cancellation fees as my contract was void (but of course in the system im still under contract since there is no way to take that off, with out actually canceling your line) but you only have till the end of the month to do this unless they will tell you that you by default have agreed to the new terms if you are paying ur bill and have made no complaint...o and the touch is pretty wack, i had it since it came out, and went through like 3 of them, looks cool, hot for factor, but extremely wack device. Windows mobile and touch based usage shld never be put together at least not until they decided to make an OS that is designed for that, and not HTC just trying to add some touch features to it. Other than that insane memory and ram (compared to mogul) the touch is really crap. And good luck on dealing with that bug that plagued the mogul in which the phone at times wont wake up to alert you of text messages or incoming calls. I sent HTC a long message about that..only for them to tell me they are aware of the problem but its not their fault, they said it was sprints fault cause of the stuff sprint decided to add to it...lol..what a response that was..O and this part of the response is not for the above post..more for the people down below that said they are waiting for the touch, and for engadget for saying "If it's simply the same Sprint hardware we know and love repackaged in white"...LOL YEA RIGHT!!!!
Prokanda @ Jan 18th 2008 1:51AM
will that phone be able to use the advanced systems on that network? like the TV I have on my voyager? will it properly be able to receive messages that are over 160 characters? will it be able to properly send/receive video/picture messages? will you be able to understand the foreign characters on the menus? I mean, I'm all for having a phone that you can change often, I'm all for a phone with a high MP camera, I'm all for a phone that's slimmer.....
but the prices on imported phones are rediculous, don't have a warranty (they'll replace mine for nothing, and I pay 7 bucks a month for the super warranty/insurance), and they can't interact with the special features that every provider has.
not to mention.... I DON'T GET GSM SIGNAL IN MY HOUSE. My point was to illustrate that it's not everyone's bag.. you didn't say "there aren't enough phones that IIIIIII like" you said "where you are stuck with a particular phone". So I was just posting my opinion because I figured a retort on what YOU think that some of US want in the way of phones, is incorrect.
so F' off.
Prokanda @ Jan 18th 2008 1:58AM
and you still didn't read what I wrote.. I don't have to call Verizon for JACK. I get on my verizon page from ANY computer, put in the esn of the phone I want to switch to, dial a 3 digit number from my phone and BAM, I'm using that other phone. No gold contacts on a sim card to wear out, no card to lose all my contacts on, and no "SIM card won't register on network" error like I used to get with crappy SunCom (what AT&T used to be in my area).
so, what you're talking about is trading one list of problems from your provider... to ANOTHER list of problems with another provider.... but the way you worded it made it sound like you were trying to account for someone other than yourself.
also, as I previously stated (and you skimmed over)... you were wrong about me being able to change my phone in 2 minutes on a whim. I do that all the time, 24 hours a day, without having to talk to a single person at verizon (not that I would mind, they're the best cell phone customer service I've ever had to speak with).... and I've had T-Mo, Sprint, Prime-Co (previous name of Ntelos in my area), AT&T (in the form of SunCom), and now Verizon. So, two GSM and three CDMA carriers and out of all of them, Verizon is the best in my area (and in Rhode Island where I travel once a year).
You're welcome to your opinion, but base it on facts... not what you know over at sprint.. they're not run the same way as Verizon and shouldn't be held to the same issues that sprint has given you.
DanFunky @ Jan 18th 2008 10:14AM
I was with Verizon for 8 years and yes, their service is far better than Sprint or AT&T, but the crap they do to disable features on their phones forced me to leave. I've been with AT&T for three months and I have dropped more calls than the entire time I was with Verizon, but I can do everything that was built into my phone from HTC and/or MS. Verizon needs to learn to bring phones out that aren't six months to a year behind the curve, and then lacking in features (bluetooth, WiFi, etc. disabled).
I'll also give Verizon credit for the insurance option on any phone for a few dollars a month. AT&T doesn't offer insurance on smartphones as "they are too expensive." WTF?
Prokanda @ Jan 18th 2008 12:34PM
true about the features... but with winmo phones, it's easy to fix.. thanks to microsoft. all verizon can do with a smartphone is make registry entries that black out the features.. on my xv6700 I was able to find a registry entry using howard forums and turned dial up networking back on so that I could tether to my laptop over bluetooth.. I also had WiFi on that phone (it wasn't disabled....), I also had a treo 700w and I was able to turn the GPS feature and the dial up networking back on with that one as well. with both of those smartphones I was able to tether over bluetooth (so no wires) and with my voyager, I have dial up networking enabled, I can't tether over bluetooth but having the cable going from my voyager to my laptop keeps it charged when I'm riding passenger in the car.. and the speed/signal is great.
so with the smartphones running winmo, it's just a registry entry away.. as for their "dumbphones" it's still possible to get some of the features back (and sometimes it's pretty easy). I upload all of my own free ringers over the cable THEY supplied, with bitpim and I have over 200 wallpapers that I made from some of the awesome work over at deviantart... so I still get the features that I want.. and no one else has the voyager. ;)
DJDevine @ Jan 18th 2008 1:52PM
hey the blackberry 8830 and rizr are world phone capable. you can use a sim card with them and hop on another network