It would be great if they could release a good OS but the trouble is that everyone expects them to release an OS that supports all of the things developed for the last OS. So they really can't cut out the bloat like apple was able to with OSX
One of the "nicest" things Microsoft has done for consumers is to make backwards compatibility a goal. But that's not universal, as any fan of AfterDark running Windows XP will tell you.
Microsoft could "reboot" the OS if they actually chose to do so. Those consumers who won't upgrade because it breaks compatibility with old software might well be those who wouldn't upgrade anyway.
MikeD: You're absolutely correct, compatibility can't be 100% guaranteed, but they absolutely can cut out Vista's bloat. And they can start by making sure loading a 'glass' window doesn't consume 512MB of memory. They need to go easy on the graphics, and keep a close eye on all of the bloat. There's no reason whatsoever Windows 7 can't be as fast and stable as XP. If memory serves, Windows ME bombed big time, but Windows XP was a lot better, with Windows ME's features. Hopefully that'll be the case with Vista, and Windows 7.
Ok ok Vista has problems - but it's still as good as XP. It's not another ME, it's XP with tons of great features added in, but suffers performance problems which need fixing. "And they can start by making sure loading a 'glass' window doesn't consume 512MB of memory" - that's not Aero... that's Superfetcher.
Get yourself a real computer, not some 200$ Dell laptop, and you will any OS's run perfectly smooth on it. Or stop getting illegal copies of Windows that are badly cracked where its core is all damaged.
It's been since June 2007 I run Vista, and I regret waiting that long. I was running on WinXP SP2 before that. I decided just for kicks to downgrade to XP... and OMG XP is SOOOO BUGGY! Take 10min to have the delete dialog box, you can skip or retry unable to delete/move/copy/cut files, tooltip hides behind the taskbar, unstable network connection, inconsistent volume per games/music player/video player as you cannot change each program volume. I don't need to have a spyware program (yet), and I can disable my anti-virus continuous guard on files (increase system performance), I just make it scan once a week, and everything I download off a non-trusted site. And I don't even need a firewall, Vista firewall is great.
I see absolute no decrease in performance in gaming or application... Windows Super-fetch does an excellent job at reducing its "reserved space" on the RAM when you need it. And NO I don't have quad-SLI Geforce 10800 GTX 1TB of RAM. I just have a Geforce 6600GT 128MB (for now).
Also if you have Vista Business or Ultimate, open up gpedit.msc, it's packed with interesting options.
Sure it starts faster, but heck I never close my computer, there is no point in doing so, unless you know you won't be using it for some time.
Look, I'm making this post from my mac at home. But my Dell laptop runs Vista just fine. Certain apps actually launch faster than they did on XP. I have no real problems with Vista.
I'm not saying Vista is perfect, or even without its fair share of problems. But a great many of Vista problems involve PEBKAC. Also, people who have barely used it jumping on the bandwagon.
since backwards compatibility would be easy to achieve through emulation, if desired, i can only conclude that there must some other obstacle. i suggest it's a complete lack of vision and direction.
I certainly ain't gonna pay (*wink*) for the next one. I paid over $300 for Vista and it did nothing but make my system look obsolete -- not because of low specs but because of poor hardware support.
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Bassir @ Jan 18th 2008 4:53PM
I hope they do much better this time. I want a decent Windows.
Mike D @ Jan 18th 2008 6:02PM
It would be great if they could release a good OS but the trouble is that everyone expects them to release an OS that supports all of the things developed for the last OS. So they really can't cut out the bloat like apple was able to with OSX
Derek @ Jan 18th 2008 6:23PM
One of the "nicest" things Microsoft has done for consumers is to make backwards compatibility a goal. But that's not universal, as any fan of AfterDark running Windows XP will tell you.
Microsoft could "reboot" the OS if they actually chose to do so. Those consumers who won't upgrade because it breaks compatibility with old software might well be those who wouldn't upgrade anyway.
Andrew Campbell @ Jan 18th 2008 6:39PM
MikeD: You're absolutely correct, compatibility can't be 100% guaranteed, but they absolutely can cut out Vista's bloat. And they can start by making sure loading a 'glass' window doesn't consume 512MB of memory. They need to go easy on the graphics, and keep a close eye on all of the bloat. There's no reason whatsoever Windows 7 can't be as fast and stable as XP. If memory serves, Windows ME bombed big time, but Windows XP was a lot better, with Windows ME's features. Hopefully that'll be the case with Vista, and Windows 7.
Jeff @ Jan 18th 2008 7:25PM
Well MS does put out a dud every once in a while. And Vista is looking like it could end up the new Windows ME. Anyone remember that one? No?
The good thing is they followed ME up with XP, which was a major improvement. So hopefully the same will happen this time.
Intrepid @ Jan 18th 2008 7:39PM
Ok ok Vista has problems - but it's still as good as XP. It's not another ME, it's XP with tons of great features added in, but suffers performance problems which need fixing.
"And they can start by making sure loading a 'glass' window doesn't consume 512MB of memory" - that's not Aero... that's Superfetcher.
Good_Bytes @ Jan 18th 2008 7:55PM
Get yourself a real computer, not some 200$ Dell laptop, and you will any OS's run perfectly smooth on it. Or stop getting illegal copies of Windows that are badly cracked where its core is all damaged.
It's been since June 2007 I run Vista, and I regret waiting that long. I was running on WinXP SP2 before that. I decided just for kicks to downgrade to XP... and OMG XP is SOOOO BUGGY! Take 10min to have the delete dialog box, you can skip or retry unable to delete/move/copy/cut files, tooltip hides behind the taskbar, unstable network connection, inconsistent volume per games/music player/video player as you cannot change each program volume. I don't need to have a spyware program (yet), and I can disable my anti-virus continuous guard on files (increase system performance), I just make it scan once a week, and everything I download off a non-trusted site. And I don't even need a firewall, Vista firewall is great.
I see absolute no decrease in performance in gaming or application... Windows Super-fetch does an excellent job at reducing its "reserved space" on the RAM when you need it. And NO I don't have quad-SLI Geforce 10800 GTX 1TB of RAM.
I just have a Geforce 6600GT 128MB (for now).
Also if you have Vista Business or Ultimate, open up gpedit.msc, it's packed with interesting options.
Sure it starts faster, but heck I never close my computer, there is no point in doing so, unless you know you won't be using it for some time.
Junior @ Jan 18th 2008 8:22PM
Windows vista made me switch to mac...
For the good.
insertAlias @ Jan 18th 2008 9:24PM
@Junior
Then you're doing it wrong.
Look, I'm making this post from my mac at home. But my Dell laptop runs Vista just fine. Certain apps actually launch faster than they did on XP. I have no real problems with Vista.
I'm not saying Vista is perfect, or even without its fair share of problems. But a great many of Vista problems involve PEBKAC. Also, people who have barely used it jumping on the bandwagon.
m @ Jan 19th 2008 1:14AM
since backwards compatibility would be easy to achieve through emulation, if desired, i can only conclude that there must some other obstacle. i suggest it's a complete lack of vision and direction.
iPriest @ Jan 19th 2008 2:31AM
I hope they do a better pricing scheme because or the Windows fanboys going to have to cool down on the "OSX is so much more expensive" crap :-)
Ahmed Alzayani @ Jan 19th 2008 4:21AM
I need to see early "leaked" build to believe...
E71 @ Jan 19th 2008 10:33AM
I certainly ain't gonna pay (*wink*) for the next one. I paid over $300 for Vista and it did nothing but make my system look obsolete -- not because of low specs but because of poor hardware support.