First shots of Windows 7 leaked? And by 7, we mean Vista.
By Paul Miller 
posted Jan 24th 2008 3:35PM
posted Jan 24th 2008 3:35PM
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Well gosh golly I guess I can just buy another copy of XP now and then wait a few years...
Yah. I moved to Vista and it is a total pain. My external USB drives don't work unless I coax them to work which means install driver, install from windows updates and all that slow, laggy crap.
My dad's XP laptop? Well, plug it in. It works. End of story.
Neat i hope i can get into the public betas this time around :)
and btw im surprised that engadget won't buy a service pack (which this isn't) for windows but they will for that over priced macintrash. and also this is legit trust me....in programming you take one piece of coding that was already written and you work on improving that, and creating new ideas until your ready to build the final program using ideas and working coding from the previous project.
"in programming you take one piece of coding that was already written and you work on improving that, and creating new ideas until your ready to build the final program using ideas and working coding from the previous project."
wtf? what does that even mean?
well its clearly fake...
if you look at any version of the windows
winver.exe screen
it says the build is 6.1xxx [which is vista] & XP is build 5.1xx
so why would "Windows 7" be labled as build 6.1xx that doesnt make any sense...
@ chrisapher
When i code a program i start by trying to work new ideas into an existing program i've already written. then whenever I'm ready to write the final program I have ideas and examples on how to make it work. Microsoft is doing the same thing, taking Vista, and recreating it with new ideas, and once they are ready to build the RTM of Windows 7, they have a better idea on how to fix problems they encounter. They did the same thing with Vista. They built early versions of Longhorn inside of XP, until they were ready to build Vista.
Grass, that doesn't make any sense. According to Microsoft's development patterns and practicies, they create a new branch for the new version when they start to work on it. I can't see them not doing that here (or with Vista).
clearly a hoax. I saw a video of them demoing the kernel (a completely brand new one). I think they're going to completely tie off any connections to old arhetecture and rebuild from the ground up. they said they goal was to be as lean as possible this time around.
I think the video may have even been up here.
but yeah, clearly a fake. even the version number is wrong. it's called photoshop people...
Ok, let me start by saying that if Windows 7 is currently being worked on with the old shell, then this would make sense. Since M$ pays thousands of dollars to make an interface this is kinda a step that gets fully implemented last. I'm sure they will recode a new shell and that they are testing using the Vista,XP, or classic scheme and not just a magical wizardry of hours of photoshop FOR TESTING. I wouldnt see why they would be concentrated on the visuals at all right now, thats being worked on def., but not by the dev team. The dev team is working on the engine, the other people are in some other area working on the outer frame.
BTW, they look very fake.
Looks like Windows98 going to WindowsME all over again...
Now if only all the cons would have gotten their stories straight, someone might have believed them. There are way too many differences in all the screen shots (ok i've only seen two, but that's enough to know that they both are fake, because no company would send out two different copies of the same build), to think that it could be real.
That's either a hoax or another overhyped OS by M$.
well of course its a hoax..... a system above vista running on only a gig of ram? come on. This is going to require at least 128gb of ram and nothing less.
roflcopter!
"We know we can't wait to pay another few hundred dollars for a barely noticeable upgrade to Vista that will re-break all driver support, how about you?"
Wow, there's a lot of bitterness on Engadget lately. What's the matter, bummed out that the Macbook Air actually turned out to be next to useless?
It's just popular to hate Vista it seems.
Not to mention that Win7 will use the exact same driver model from Vista, so Vista drivers ARE Windows 7 drivers *rollseyes*
Why is Windows 7 in version 6.1?
As many people have said before, this is their blog and they can write what they want - and it is true. But I also am not forced to click the ads displayed on their site. The last line of this post is simply uncalled for and shows the childish nature of many who make posts here. In the past I would click on an ad every time I would visit here to support them, but no more, and I encourage everybody to join me.
@Ty
That was well summed up, couldn't have said it better.
surprised that Ty's comment hasn't been deleted yet. I know I've had far less "controversial" comments axed.
I had one deleted once for getting first post and pointing out how the poster pulled numbers out of his ass. It happens.
@ ty
lol. this site has ads? I have flashblock installed, some ad blocking extension, and my hosts file all loaded up. I haven't seen ads in like 3 years, probably more...
Move along nothing to see here.
No kidding. I like how their "Windows 7" test or w/e it's supposed to be is 32-bit. "Windows Server 2008 is the last 32-bit operating system that we'll produce,"
http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Last-32-bit-Operating-System-from-Microsoft-54974.shtml
@ Computer.dude
You are wrong
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/05/18/on-64-bit-and-windows-client.aspx
Ah. Didn't find that. Thanks, Neal
It's a hoax, it clearly says version 6.1 under the photoshopped title....cmon guys!
because Vista was always 6.0...guess again
Amazing how many people comment without clicking on the Read link.
holy shit what news...
lmao...if those screenshots are real, then thats just like Microsoft telling the world "oh well, Vista failed and has made a horrible name for itself. So why not just release a new OS".
this is clearly a hoax...it looks like a vista page shopped.
besides, as mark pointed out, it has a vista version number -vista uses 6xxx version numbers (launch being version 6000).
And XP is shown as Windows 5.1 using the same numbering system as 2000 which is Windows 5. So your point is?
This is pretty much fake. The most obvious thing that stands out is the version number. "Version 6.1" - oh is that windows 7? NO. The second problem is the copyright date. 2007, not 2008. Obviously vista.
Whoever sent this in has no life obviously.
i was thinking the same thing, but didn't post because i couldn't verify. my xp says version 2002.
And yet Vista's copyright is 2006. If you paid enough attention, you'd see that this build was built in December which... surprise surprise, is 2007!
And yes, the shots are real.
Actually this build is from December 2007.
Why do you call this a fake/hoax, it's just a very early pre-release alpha version of Windows 7, and in matters of fact it shows some very minor changes. It could be fake, but I think it looks pretty legit.
Please look at the first Whistler (XP) and Longhorn (Vista) screenshot. Thank you ;)
If you say this is Windows 7, then I might have believed you... sigh...
http://www.cnbeta.com/upimg/070802/Aoouch_141310.jpg
Looks more like a moded linux distribution to me, which there are a few out there that are made to look like a windows system already.
It seems odd that they'd skin it in Aero Glass, since the first major announcement regarding Windows 7 was that their first priority was trying to make the OS smaller and more efficient, compared to the current bloated state in which Windows has found itself.
Unless they're already so far into the game that they've made a smaller, more efficient way of displaying Aero Glass-like effects.
Uh, Aero is probably the most efficient bit of the OS. All the GUI processing is offloaded onto the video card.
OSX does the same thing.
From what I've read from testers of previous Windows versions, the version stuff gets fixed at the end since it changes with every build and takes time to input and fix.
Anti-news has been discovered here today. Always remember, 1-24-08!
Maybe they will make a good copy of MacOsX this time....
What complete with 100 bugs that they will tell you've they've fixed but not release the patch for?
Considering Vista is Windows v6.0 it would seem that 'Win7' is really just a service pack on that little screen cap.
XP is identified as Windows 5.1 while 2000 is Windows 5 so you are saying XP is just a service pack for 2000?
XP is definitely a service pack to Windows 2000. Windows 2000 road tested many features the XP uses. Microsoft halted on the home consumer release until the GUI was adjusted and a lot of bugs of Windows 2000 was worked out.
Window 2000 blew the pants off of 98 and 95 and was the best option to avoid ME while waiting for XP.
Well, on the one hand that is a 7...
Nice work!
Forget Windows 7. Windows 8 is leaked aswell! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/richbum/windows-8-ultimate-leak-1.jpg
bravo good sir... except you forgot about the second "7" in the 4th line.... muhhhahhaa....
lmao
oh. ofcourse. sorry. I updated my build of Windows 8 to fix that.
hahaha.. nice dude nice.
Se this article for more info: http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080123/insider-confirm-windows-7/
Basically, they are waiting as long as possible before implementing new look and feel, and the article also claims that MS won't do new versions with as many news as Vista, smaller updates from now on.
Looks like Hansi is the only one that reads sites other than engadget, this is indeed real.
Sorry peoples, but it is a fake. I did image forgery analysis at a previous job. They way you can tell in this pic is the double-jpeg artifacts in and around everything but what was changed from "Vista" to make it look like Windows 7. Zoom in and you can see it.
I'm not even going to give them props for making a good fake. They coulda done way better...
Couldn't just be the screen shot was saved as a compressed jpeg and then someone else compressed it again to save bandwidth?
I agree with Boris. I would like to add that I can tell because the reflections are all wrong, and because of the pixels.
Oh, and like Boris, I have also seen a lot of shops in my time.
c'mon endgadgets u are above this junk news.. this is clearly a hacked copy of vista.. what the hick man!
haha wow is it just me or is it insane how biased engadget is? theres a new fake picture of a new ms os and all they can do is bash it when they'll suck down any apple/mac product/marketing that comes their way. if anyone knowledgeable about computers want to talk about paying for crap upgrades, i would be willing to bet apple comes to mind first... (cough leopard without ilife on upgrade)
i doubt engadget would have an issue paying 2000 dollars for a thin, crappy computer
Here we can clearly see one of 2 things:
1: A very good attempt at PhotoShop.
2: A broken version of the SP1 for vista.
Keep in mind the copyright will read 2007, the build date shows Dec 20th, 2007. But in all likelihood, this could easily just be a photoshop of SP1, or the real deal. It's not like Windows 7 would be THAT far along as to look drastically different.
That looks almost exactly like Vista lol
It's likely real. Any alpha version of Windows that has been released into the wild never showed any version number upgrade in the about box, and it won't show up until the first beta.
You retards do realize that Vista also started out looking just like XP during its longhorn infancy right? GJ at being ignorant dumb fucks though.
windows 7 utlimate? since when does microsoft version their betas?
fail.
"We know we can't wait to pay another few hundred dollars for a barely noticeable upgrade to Vista that will re-break all driver support, how about you?"
Kinda sounds like the upgrade from Tiger to Leopard to me.
My thoughts exactly.
Think before you speak please! Leopard is a significant upgrade to tiger. And there where no driver incompatibilities between the two. Allot of architectural changes that might have made a view apps not work fully.
Same to you! Windows Vista was a significant upgrade to XP, I'm sure you probaly wouldn't admit that one though.
I remembered Longhorn Professional Home Ultimate Edition ;)
Actually I hope they just call the next Windows, 'Windows 7', very clean.
Uh don't you read other news sources besides engadget?
This is windows seven milestone 1.
Guys. There really isn't anything to see here yet. Most of the changes thus far are not ui changes it's mostly for under-the-hood-stuff. Ars technica already covered this (too lazy to link, use google), the current builds of Windows 7 are based on Vista. UI still looks like vista, and will continue to do so until much later in the development.
Neat i hope i can get into the public betas this time around :)
and btw im surprised that engadget won't buy a service pack (which this isn't) for windows but they will for that over priced macintrash. and also this is legit trust me....it is
Wow! I hope so! I hope it's release 2Q 2008. MS just can't get the new OSes out fast enough to meet my need to upgradeupgradeupgrade.
I'm already planning for Windows 9! Yay Microsoft!
"Windows 7 features support for multiple video cards from different manufacturers running simultaneously"
I was able to do this since Windows 98
Windows 98 didn't have native multimonitor support. That feature got introduced in Windows Millenium Edition.
VistaME, anyone?
They should just call it vista service pack 2.
Windows Vista SE
Windows Vista 7 Millennium Service Pack 2 Edition Plus! XP Professional Ultimate for Windows XP!
Well as they say, the seventh time's the charm!
Actually the saying is "Third times the charm" which doesn't fit in this topic at all so really your post is not needed. Delete it now.
And here I was thinking that maybe he was making a joke.
You guys saying that his is a fake are lying! It has been explained many times on the web. Ms labels their builds differently than their names! Vista is build 6 and Windows Vienna is the 7th build they've done. They just arent naming it as build version 7xxxx This is Vienna. There is no reall change to the gui, but there is change to how it uses the ram and the files needed to boot! Do some research before you even think about bashing anything! You might be wrong!
Could this just be Vista SP2?
I remember seeing screenshots of Vista like this, but in XP style. It is very likely real people. Could also be fake, but what does it matter? It doesn't show anything about the product.
Color me unimpressed. Ubuntu has been rock solid for me since jumping ship over a year ago. I have a Windows XP partition, but I never boot into it. Just not worth the hassle. I almost upgraded it to Vista (my system is more than able to handle it) but again--not worth the hassle.
I suppose I could use it for games... But naah. Not worth the hassle.
Look, a firecracker! [boom]
Not sure if anyone's brought this up before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7#Releases
For those of you too lazy to link yourselves
The first known build of Windows 7 was identified as a "Milestone 1 (M1) code drop" according to reports sent to TG Daily. It was sent to key Microsoft partners in January 2008 in both x86 and x64 versions.
Version Build Released in
Milestone 1 (M1)[1] 6.1.6519.1 January 2008
Just because it looks exactly like Vista does not mean it's fake. I'm guessing Windows 98 and 2000 are hoaxes too, they look just like Windows 95.
Also take a look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista The early builds of Vista look like XP with some minor modifications.
Thats a nice Vista skin
Wait, you all bitch and moan about how vista was nothing more than a visual update with nothing new behind the scenes, then you write off 7 because it doesn't have a new pretty interface without even knowing what else the OS does? And people question whether or not you're biased...
Granted, it's likely a fake anyway, but still.
its x86 i thought windows 7 was supposed to be x86_64 native?
Last i checked windows 7 was just a windows flag, command prompt style os. Minwin , look it up
Why would they write ultimate on a test version
Big surprise, I look on Engadget and all I see are MS bashers. Look, I have both Vista HP and Leopard on my iMac so I'm pretty qualified to speak on the merits of each of them. I prefer OS X, but Vista is just fine for 99% of people. You all need to get a life with all this bitching about drivers and all that. I fail to see how having crappy drivers and thus crappy performance is Microsoft's fault. Why don't you put your time and energy into contacting ATI or NVIDIA if you are that obsessed with having a few frames per second more in game? Maybe you all should actually buy a computer from a manufacturer who knows how to get the correct drivers for Vista. All of the Apple drivers work just fine for Vista. Yes there are some annoying things about Vista, such as having to scroll down in the start menu (what PHD moron got paid to make that decision?), but the majority of complaints either have been resolved or they will be resolved soon once SP1 hits.
Did any one notice who this product was licensed to? Haha, keepin' it real fake!