Official: Vista SP1 released to manufacturing -- headed your way... in March
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Feb 4th 2008 8:34AM
posted Feb 4th 2008 8:34AM
We've been hearing rumors all morning that Microsoft would release Vista SP1 this week. Now, according to Reuters, Microsoft has just sent Vista SP1 to manufacturing. In the same presentation to investors, Steve Ballmer said that Microsoft has released Windows Server 2008 to manufacturing as well. However, the server software won't formally launch until February 27th. Now we're just waiting for the SP1 download link and/or Windows Update package. Twiddle, twiddle... ah hell, we'll just update you when we get it -- this could take a few days.Update: Hands off the F5 key kids, Microsoft says SP1 won't be available to customers until March, starting with Microsoft Volume Licensing customers. Server 2008 will be available for purchase on March 1st.
Here's hoping that SP1 is to Vista as SP2 was to XP
Here's hoping that SP1 is XP.
I would assume it would release Wednesday then. But I will wait for 3/4 days to see whether it has major issues.
Vista SP1 with "major issues?"
People have been using what is essentially the completed version for weeks now. Nothing but high praise. What kind of issues are you expecting to pop up from a stability/speed update?
I downloaded a simple update that corrupted several files on my HDD, and I had to restore back to a previous copy, and then start again. It was probably just a piece of bad luck, but I will wait a few days to make sure that there aren't some similar issues. I am not saying that the build is bad, but the installer may have a few bugs in it.
@ mattclarkie:
As they say, often the problem lies between the chair and the keyboard.
Yeah I am the reason that Windows Update cocked up. When I clicked that install button I obviously did something wrong.
What a totally ridiculous comment.
PICNIC = Problem In Chair Not In Computer
Finally...
Its about damn time.
Maybe my laptop and desktop will start working correctly. I've had to rebuild my desktop 3 times so far. This brand new laptop is not so great and I'm convinced it's the OS. MS better get it right this time.
It's probably more likely your drivers. I've had similar problems. But then I've also had two newer systems with practically flawless performance.
10.5.2 where are you, where are you?
definitely not over a year away, that's for sure.
The enthusiasm you infuse in all your posts when talking about Microsoft is nigh-on unbearable! C'mon guys, can't you tone it down a bit?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!
oh...I mean..
yaaaaaay.
I honestly think Thomas Ricker and Ryan Block have contests to see who can piss off M$ users more.
What's wrong with it? Are people not allowed to be excited about specific companies?
@Liam, it's a sign or smell of anti-M$ and from commenters like Will who "DO NO EVIL" on the google side. Stupid pple who r always scared of competitors instead of stepping up their own games...n continue to be better
I have a copy of Vista Home Premium thank you very much. I don't have anything against Microsoft, just Vista. It's cliche, but Vista is both an improvement and a step back from XP.
One thing that really pisses me off about Vista, is when a movie is previewed, the date modified changes. This cost me several hours of fixing DSC movies until I figured out what was causing the problem.
Oh, and I had to jump through hoops to do a clean install with an "upgrade" copy.
Oh, and OS X does spell checking in comments forms. Don't be afraid of it.
Don't you mean Safari checks spelling? Firefox does, too... even on Vista. ;>
Yes, thanks for clarifying. Safari, the default browser does.
Oh, it's default. I'm relieved - it's super hard to type www.getfirefox.com. Agh wait, I just did!
1. Your upset because you had to jump through hoops to install an OS that is meant to be used as an upgrade? Isn't it your own fault for buying that version?
2. Not sure what you're talking about with change in modified dates for video files. I see the same modified date for my old videos before and after it's watched. Now if you moved to another drive, then that's a different story
Andy,
In all previous upgrade versions of Windows, you could do a clean install, and provide a previous version's disc in order to verify eligibility. There is no mention of this procedure having changed on the packaging.
The date modified issue doesn't happen if you use WMP or another video player to playback the files. However, if you are in a directory where you have both pictures and videos (from a digital camera in my case), and you move between video files with the preview application, the dates will be modified. I've only observed this with .mpg files, but as these from my digital camera, the date stamp is rather important.
Now to start F5'ing the Microsoft Download site...
Doesn't your browser have an auto refresh function?
It was planned for release today, so this isn't really news. Well, maybe to Engadget it is. :P
Yay. Will download the RTM as soon as it leaks. Now, to spilstream it with the install DVD or to just upgrade.. hmm!
I thought slipstreaming of service packs is no longer possible with Vista? Isn't that the reason why it's not possible to do so with vlite?
Yikes, just reading up on it now, looks like only post SP1 updates (such as SP2) will slipstream properly. Guess I'll have to download the MS slipstreamed version or just use automatic updates. No biggie I guess!
Damn, why are they taking too long. I hope it is worth all this wait
Server 2008 comes out March 1, and March 31 is when the upgrade exams for MCSA/MCSE 2000 to 2003 go away. Just FYI. I procrastinated and am now in the thick of reading Test Kings. I know 2000 and 2003 were so similar most did not up their MCSE or MCSA, but in the event that 2008 does not suck like Vista, I would sure like to only take two tests instead of the full load to up to that. There is no upgrade path from 2000 to 2008.
As for Vista, wake we up around midway between SP2 and SP3, I might take my users to that then. Exchange 2007? try SP3(It's interface must have been designed by the team from ISA 2000).
I love 2008 server, about the only thing missing is the ability to share a common DHCP database so you can have a true fault tolerant and distributed DHCP service. Been using 2008 Server since RC1 and I am extremely impressed with both stability and speed, the VM aspect rocks too.
did they finally remove those annoying pop up and security crap?
i wont upgrade unless they do that.
You CAN disable User Account Control...
popups and security crap? wow you mean something that's meant to protect you from viruses and rogue software trying to silently install in the background... thats like linux people saying they want the guru's to do away with the SU password requirement... i mean MS went even further makinga virtual secure desktop for the password window to thwart programs from trying to click "ok" themselves with macros ... but thats just showing how much they were dedicated to proper security this time they through everything at it.
you can disable that
You can disable them already with a SINGLE CHECKBOX in your user settings. Just take a few seconds to look for it. It took longer to write that comment than it does to disable the security boxes.
Click the little picture of the fish or whatever other awful thing you were forced to use for an icon in the top right of the start menu. Browse from there and disable it.
You can turn UAC off, sure... but knowing it's UAC causing all those stupid messages in the first place is not apparent to someone who is new to Vista.
And while I appreciate that the average computer user really benefits from having their hand held through everything they do on their computer, it should be an option that you are made aware of from the start.
@Dave
Are you kidding me? How would you like to be "made aware?" Maybe in the user guide? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bbc16ebf-4823-4a12-afe1-5b40b2ad3725&displaylang=en
"You can turn UAC off, sure... but knowing it's UAC causing all those stupid messages in the first place is not apparent to someone who is new to Vista."
Pretty sure when messages come up it says USER ACCOUNT CONTROL. But what do I know, I only use Vista every day!
Idiot.
Actually most of the UAC problems come from the fact that XP was so relaxed on the Admin/User status. Because of that, programmers got into the bad habit of expecting Admin status (since everyone ran that way). So when Vista changed to running the user as a user, it messed up the old applications and forced developers to rush to fix all their stuff. Hopefully most of them have been fixed by now.
Actually Jeff, devs have been sloppy about their programs "needing" Admin status for no apparent reason since NT4. probably before. Just because devs cant be bothered to implement correct multiuser security policy doesn't make it a Windows problem.
http://www.geocities.com/rutherk1/imvista.jpg
Security is great in Vista. You're fully protected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfetbidVUYw
According to the Windows Vista Team Blog. SP1 won't be on Windows Update and the Microsoft download site until Mid-March. Customers that select to have updates auto-installed via Windows Update won't get automatically pushed until April. I guess there's some issues with device drivers so that's why they are doing this staggered rollout.
More here:http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/04/announcing-the-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx
Hold the phone, driver issues? On Vista? Crazy talk!
Yea, you would think the manufacturer's would have learned from when Vista shipped that they should have the drivers ready, but noooooo.
I'd rather them wait and get whatever kinks are left sorted out than push the release now. But this is coming from someone who actually has to use the service pack, not someone who thinks they write really awesome one liners on Engadget comments. There are literally millions of possible hardware combinations that need to be tested and Vista runs on a completely different architecture than XP did.
All I'm saying is: C'mon, give M$ a break. It's a whopping 26 days. My Vista PC runs fine now so I'm not really hampered by it running fine while I wait 26 days for it to run better...
It has to be manufactured? Would be nice to have in downloadable form.
Maybe it's a hardware upgrade?
What's this Vista SP1 you talk of. I am only interested in XP SP3!
Yeah bring on the SP3 Goodness!!!!!
Server 2k8 is on MSDN!
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2789799&SiteID=17
wished it happened earlier.
maybe i am just stupid, but what exactly is windows server 2008?
@techieguru16
Google it, then google "tech(ie)" and "guru" while you're at it.
I don't understand why it would take six weeks to get the downloads working. I can understand the desire to hold off on the Automatic Windows Update push, but seems to me that the tech savvy and all the system administrators who know what they are doing should be given manual download access immediately.
And it will be released as a torrent in early February.
While it's damn stupid of Microsoft to wait until March to release the service pack, at least we can rest easy knowing it'll be leaked and on Bittorrent within the next couple days.
I'm looking forward to seeing if this is going to fix Vista enough for me to upgrade again. Doubtful, but we'll see.
whats going on Engadget? I submitted this piece, now where is my glory?!
Yeah, great. It's "gold" today, but will be 6 weeks stale before we get it. Yet another reason to continue avoiding Vista.
The real question is, where is XP SP3?
It probably went gold today but you won't see it for 6 more weeks. You better uninstall XP.
hmmm i bet there adding extra stuff for home users......like yahoo messenger, jk
Microsoft!
Anyone know what the final build it? Some people are saying it's 6001.18000.080118-1840 while others are saying it's
6001.18000.080126-2040.
I've been running Service Pack 3 for months, someone posted a simple registry hack to download the developer version....I've enjoyed it...I believe a simple google search can turn it up, if not I have a batch file with the command saved in it and can repost it
I tried the beta of Vista SP1 and if youre using the paradox or timestopper crack it's going to screw up your activation!!
youll have to system restore to remedy the situation and then refuse to install sp1, maybe something will come out in the future.
***i am not condoning the use of pirated software, this is purely informational***
you know it's really easy to keep your activation just look for the BIOS emulation crack worked for me and I've upgraded my Vista to SP1 4 days ago
too many retards complaining about vista :)
Finished downloading and installing Vista. All is done...
The bootup is faster on my machine now. IE, Office 2007, and many other apps boots up noticably quicker. I went to the "Welcome Center" and tried to click on "more details about my computer", and the rating system is gone. I have 4GB on my system, only about 3.2GB shows up (32bit?), and it gave my system a score of 2.0 (2.0 being the lowest). This is no longer the case since the rating system is removed in SP1.
I just installed Vista 2 days ago to test it out on my old PC, waiting for my Mac Pro (with 8800 GT) to arrive, and it looks like I will be intalling Vista on it when it comes.
WoW also received a FPS improvement.
In addition,
all Office 2007 apps starts up much faster than before,
Eclipse (for Java) runs faster.
Adobe Reader launches much more quicklier.
You should follow this:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=107402&page=10
The RTM (whats said to be the final ) has been floating around for the last few days and widely available on torrent sites.
I did the full vista 64 sp1 install last night, took an hour, still testing and all is well so far...