For those of you who simply can't
wait one more second to get your hands on one of the more
hyped updates in recent memory, Vista SP1, you're in luck. According to a report (and our BitTorrent client, chugging along in the background), the new service pack has been leaked, then promptly made available for your forbidden downloading pleasure. Apparently, the full install doesn't provide you with an upgrade option, so make sure you backup necessary files (like those pictures of Mom, apple pie, etc.). PC World offers a highly detailed report on how many seeders and / or leechers were available at the time its article was written, but we'll spare you. Suffice to say, it's there for the taking.
posted Feb 7th 2008 10:06AM
I can't see anyone at Microsoft getting that pissed... I mean, they want the update out, so presumably all that means is that this isn't the final release candidate.
Aye.
Also: "...more hyped updates in recent history"
Is this a joke? Because uhh... http://www.engadget.com/search/?q=leopard
Vista is a disaster of a release eclipsed only by Windows 98. Anyone who bought Vista knows that they paid for a beta. The disire to have a reasonably functioning product is no crime.
Nate: Are you sure you don't mean Windows ME?
Yo Ho, Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life for Me! ARGH!!!!
@Nate,
Been running Vista x64 for quite a while now, haven't had an issue. Not that big of an improvement over XP, but still better.
The biggest issue is really the lack of x64 support from some vendors, like Canon and Sony. Of all things, photo and video applications should be among the first adopters to 64-bit for its humongous memory space. But not so...
Everyone is missing the point. The reason to not publicly release the service pack is because manufacturers need time to work out the kinks with their software before it goes live to the public. as soon as it goes live, the blackhats can reverse engineer the security flaws from the fixes.
if it gets released early, then there is a time where systems are running w/o the service pack, pending fixes for third party software, and these systems are suseptible to attack.
nice try by microsoft but they should know better.. that crazy plan would never work.
I have 2 desktops, 2 notebooks and 1 HTPC running Windows Vista Home Premium. If I had a single issue with Vista, I definitely wouldn't be using it. Only the notebooks actually came with Vista, had to get licenses for the desktop and the HTPC - not going out of my way to really get it but I could just have easily put Windows XP on them. I didn't, because Vista has caused absolutely no trouble for me whatsoever. Those who have trouble are either using very dated hardware, don't know how to turn UAC off or are using antique software that probably didn't even work that well on XP.
Not that stealing is ok, but it was rather stupid of them to announce SP1 RTM and then tell you it would be a month and a half before you could download it.
In the case of upgrading from Vista, is it really stealing if:
1) It costs nothing to begin with.
2) They will be releasing it for the masses in the near future.
3) They will push it on the masses a few months later.
They should have just not said anything, and told the public the final release date. Apparently they think SP1 RTM has too many problems to be trusted to their other costumers.
How exactly does one steal something that is going to be free to anyone with the required software in a month or so? Its not as if Microsoft were intending to sell it.
It's the full Windows Vista SP1 install, as it seems. It's not just the service pack, hence the comment from the Engadgets that it "doesn't provide you with an upgrade option, so make sure you backup necessary files".
Come on people, the announcements were for sysadmins so they will be prepared for the install. All this venom for MS (at least in this case) is unnecessary.
Sysadmins? How do they prepare for SP1 if they don't know what it will break on their systems?
I say let users download it (not on Windows Update until March) and let the sysadmins actually *administer* their network by setting a policy that disallows the update until they are ready.
@bluestealth: Yes, people using vista while dressed up in costumes (ie, costumers) Should not be trusted with the service pack earlier than the official release date.
@bondsbw
It's not stealing and neither is copying any software. It's copyright infringement, and in this case it probably still is.
He probably thought that you had to pay for it becasue he confused Vista SP1 with an OS X service pack.
Vista SP1? Why?
(insert sarcastic comment here)
Vista.
Because it's there.
Thank goodness for Dell.
....and Ubuntu Hardy, while still in alpha, is /awesome/.
The sad thing is, our 'alpha' is about the quality of microsoft's released software. ...but the KDE team doesn't use 'alpha', they just give stuff numbers ^_^ (and I really am just fine with that)
Stealing a patch?
I know, it's a sad day for the torrents.
You need to understand. It's not just eh SP1 patch. It is a torrent of Vista + SP1. Therefore, since it includes the actual Windows Vista OS, along with SP1, it is a crime. It's pirating.
I think that Engadget just wrote this up a bit sloppily as it was not all that easy to gather all the information from this post.
Actually I'm not sure that it's really stealing if there are no keygens or cracks included. When you purchase software, you are not actually buying the software but instead a license to that software.
Of course if you get caught downloading the software, it would be pretty hard to prove that you never intended to use it without a legit license.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole idea of CD keys and MGA so that downloading or acquiring an unauthenticated OS wouldn't (in theory) be an issue. I mean there's a reason why MS allows a 30-day trial period of Vista before you have to insert a key...so people can "try" it before they "buy" it.
ya who knew that wanting to fix microsoft's broken operating system was a crime?
Ballmer's getting his sweat on right now. Screaming, throwing chairs...sweating profusely.
Microsoft should realize that we pwn them, not the other way around.
Why fight your own users? Microsoft reminds me of the RIAA... they think they have this big fight against piracy, but actually they just... don't... get it.
Would they rather have us use a pirated copy of Windows or Apple OSX? Seriously.
What? No one has said anything about Microsoft fighting anybody. The service pack is leaked and people are downloading it. Microsoft hasn't said anything. FYI, this service pack is getting rid of the reduced functionality mode (which is good for pirates), so your spiel is even more inane.
Try to follow along. If I'm confusing you, don't respond.
Pirating a Service Pack is what the story is about... what part don't you get? JK I don't care.
You aren't very smart.
haha.. keep flaming me troll! I enjoy it.
The problem is that people will blame Microsoft for when their downloaded copy of SP1 fucks up their system. Microsoft is not ready to support SP1 yet, but people will think they have a right to that support even though they are using an un-released patch.
They're either lawyers or idiots
@Dave
I am sure all the big boys who download will know what they are doing, and they will already have their system backup before they upgrade.
no reason for you to get that third zune tattoo.
Of course techy people won't have any problems with it. You have to remember, there are ALOT of idiots out there. I am not trying to defend MS at all here, just posting some common sense.
sorry Dave your right :)
It's not the patch; it's a full download of Vista SP1. Therefore, it's piracy.
You will likely still need a legit key - in that case it may just be legal.
Uh... just because the key isn't included doesn't make it legal.
Umm considering that the SP1 PATCH (What? you think an SP is a complete install of an OS?) is free who gives a shit.
I guess it's then illegal to use it without a license key on trial mode ?
Think how much bandwidth they're going to save now. They should be thanking people instead :)
To the The Pirate Bay!!!!
Whoops i mucked up that one.
can someone please describe in detail why vista sucks? i've been running home premium 32bit on a 3gb ram, T7500 processor, 256 nvidia graphics HP laptop for a month now, and i actually like it. i run mostly resource intensive DJ/audio production software on it and they run fantastic. of course, i had to spend a few hours uninstalling some crapware and researching online for optimal settings for running professional audio software, but i don't mind doing that since in the process i learned a little more about vista settings and how to tweak them.
it's really funny when i get shit from my Mac fanboy buddies when i tell them that i actually really like vista.
i've had no problems what so ever (except for a somewhat slow loading Network Connections admin panel which i think someone else mentioned). for the most part, i still feel like i'm using xp, except that over time i run across a little added feature here and there that makes my life easier (vs. using xp). i feel like vista is alot closer to the sweet spot of addressing the prosumer. tweaking any kind of settings is much easier. connecting to various networks is a snap. windows explorer features/functions work great. (for people that hate the frequent UAC pop up, you can turn that off. google it.)
prior to my new laptop, i ran XP for a few years on a 1GB, 3GHz desktop. like many people, was skeptical about getting a vista machine because i really liked XP. it worked really well for a long time for me. (i used Window Blinds which basically already gave me the "vista glass look" for several years, so the somewhat improved look of vista wasn't really a selling point for me.) but now that i've been using it for a month, i actually find that it's more stable than my xp desktop machine, with many pleasantly surprising little added features.
so i just don't see it. why people think vista sucks. i guess i could potentially see 2 camps of people thinking it sucks: (1) the really really techy types that can nit pick about something or another that really doesn't affect the average user at all and (2) the people that are so in love with the Mac OS cartoonish UI/eye candy that they will bash anything that doesn't "look" like the Mac OS.
so i guess the bottom line is, get a powerful enough computer to run vista. i laugh when people talk about installing vista on an older machine. why would you do that anyway? seems like if xp is running fine on your old machine, it's an awful lot of trouble to install a new OS that's been well documented to not run well on a slower/lower memory machine.
on a side note, i just got a free iPod classic recently and am setting up iTunes. one guestion. why the hell can't i simply monitor multiple folders for new music? to me, this is the most basic convenience feature a music player can offer. when i asked my Mac buddy, he was totally perplexed by the question... also, why does the same album show up multiple times on my ipod when browsing by album? bleh. think i'm going back to using the Zune. the iPod does look nice though. i'll give it that much.
peace all,
Robert
Any news on the XP SP3?
The latest RC is stable for me and resolved the "tooltips hiding behind taskbar" issue that I was having on two SP2 machines, so I say it's worth a shot. However, all the machines I installed it on had it installed either immediately after or shortly after a fresh install of XP, so I can't speak for if it has any compatibility issues. It shouldn't though (from what I'm hearing).
The Pirate Bay now has the SP1 patch. Filesize is around 430MB. It can be updated on any versions of Vista.
Bah...whatever. Anyone who is downloading a SP off of BT is savvy enough to fix their own problems if something goes wrong. That is the only concern that MS would care about.
I personally don't care. I've been running RC SP1 since December. As far as I know the feature set in the final release is set and the RC is solid. So whatever. I just need to figure out how to slip stream it. The original concept of dropping the file in a directory on the DVD won't occur until SP2. So I hope there is a method similar to XP's slipstreaming update.
Anything that breaks Ballmer's haert [didn't now he had one/?] is always a good thing_
What's sad is that that's actually a good rule of thumb.
Somebody slip an ubuntu livecd into his car. A bunch of nerds scattered over the face of the planet just scraped up an OS that curb stomps everything he ever lived for. That should do it, right?
hmmmm
ok, wtf engadget. I have like 3 pictures on my computer and 1 is of my mom and 1 is of apple pie...
The real question is
What is the third?
Actually its like 12 but a few are mom/sis from thanksgiving, few are my dogs, and an apple pie that won me a county fair. :P
his mom walking in on him with an apple pie
Who keeps a picture of their Mom on their computer!?
Well... unless it's the family computer...
Whatch gunna do with the county fair now that you won it?
...now where is the torrent for XP SP3???
The big question is:
Has anyone tried it? Does vista suck less?
From what I've read, it doesn't suck less - it just sucks differently. It sucks more in some ways and less in others although it still sucks in those other areas. BUt if you are one of those heads half full people you'll tell others they are imagining that it suck and if you just put in 4 more gigs of memory and another processor it runs fine - will even run as fast as XP on a 386 computer if you buy all that additional stuff.
The minute someone pipes in with a comment that he read.....no one gives a shit about his opinion.
I've been using RC SP1 since December when I dropped Vista back on my 2.33Ghz C2D MacBook Pro. (I removed it after a 3 week jaunt with Vista back in July. Hated it with the utmost intensity. SP1 is worlds different. File transfers are MUCH faster, teh snappy seems to have been found in several aspects of the GUI. (Esp the Network and Share Center.) Overall SP1 is going to bring back people who:
1. Have the hardware to actually enjoy vista. (Sorry but you need 2GB\1.2Ghz DC\128MB of VRAM IMHO.)
I migrated my copy of Vista Business from my MBP over to my Gateway Tablet PC about 2 weeks ago, that is running a ULV 1.2Ghz Dual Core\3GB RAM\160GB 5400 RPM drive\Intel 945 integrated Graphics.
For those kinda specs (Esp the graphics and CPU) you would expect to hear a certain sucking noise (or possibly a help meeeeee voice) coming from the speaker. It doesn't. Its surprisingly fast. You ain't gaming on this other then possible games prior to 2004. You won't be doing heavy hitting video ripping\encoding but performance for all the basic "stuff" is really rather snappy.
That and MS fixed the readyboost bug in Vista. I popped a 2GB 150x SD card into my Tablet's SD slot. After it cached a bunch of my more common apps the startup time on some of these apps like iTunes, Firefox, Onenote, iView, Trillian, etc are noticeably faster.
So yah the haters who hate and as such have no experience with SP1 can go frack themselves.
i was able to find SP1 for 64-bit Vista off usenet. no waiting around for torrents to finish.
I don't really understand the popularity of bit torrent, its soooo slow! Someone educated me.
If you think bittorrent is slow, wait until you try Vista!
It is only slow if:
1) Theres a horrible share ratio
2) you have a crap internet speed
Maybe he just doesn't understand "Port Forwarding".
It's the RC - read the comments here:
http://www.mininova.org/com/1142953
This doesn't seem to be the real deal anyway. Posted on that same torrent:
"I've installed this via Virtual PC 2007. It "looks like" the Final SP1 Built 18000 but it's not. "Winver" command says Built 18000 Service Pack 1. Maybe it's altered somehow.
I've checked it with vLite 1.1.1 > Integrate feature and it showed me that SP1 RC1 is integrated into setup.
Here's the screenshot;
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8227/sp1rc1ux0.jpg
(The selected line is the RC1 knowledge base page; http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=936330)
I've wasted my time on this."
I´m happy for the improvements but sincerely I do not believe that they are going to make magic. The % of the graphic card destined to the 3D desk did not change as far as requirements.
That causes that Vista Windows continues being highly ineffective as much in design 3D as in games, for example.
looks like somebody put up XP SP3 on the MiniNova torrents now, though I question its legitimacy.
Huh, maybe the extra attention to trying to find Vista SP1 on BT will make my GGW downloads go a bit faster....
there's at least 1 32-bit and 1 64-bit standalone Vista SP1 on the torrent sites now, no need for a fresh install
It does improve speed, I've had the RC1 on my laptop and it's writing a lot less to the hard drive and seems to sit in sleep mode a bit better (although sometimes it takes a minute to wake, no idea why). This is on a Samsung Q45 with 2GB of RAM.
Let me know when there's a full installer with SP1 integrated that is and will remain active. kthx
I think Uncle Fester would be happy they are stealing Vista - at least that means someone is using it instead of upgrading from Vista to XP.
I think Uncle Fester would be happy they are stealing Vista - at least that means someone is using it instead of upgrading from Vista to XP.
yum apple pie
The 450MB Windows6.0-KB936330-X86.exe SP1 patch installed fine except the fact it took 1.5hrs on a XPS M1710 with 2.0GHz T7200/4GB RAM/160GB 7200RPM HD
Downloaders, Downloaders, Downloaders!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La_u1jPLOIA
I always love this one the best
I honestly don't think that the Vista SP1 download is authentic.
I am a member of the Vista Beta program via it's Connect website and the SP1 RTM for Vista is not available there, only Server 2008...
The only Vista build currently available for download is SP1 RC Refresh (RC2).
So I would be very careful installing whatever is in this torrent.
Has anyone tried the x64 copy?
yes and it worked quite well
I've installed both the 32-bit (on a 2gig 2ghz core 2 duo laptop w/ Vista Enterprise) and 64-bit (4gig 2.13ghz core 2 duo desktop w/ Ultimate) and both are performing LOADS better. I'm talking about the standalone ~500meg upgrade exes here. Both are still properly activated, file copies are unbroken, the UI lag is gone, and resume from sleep is way faster on the laptop. For those of you in the camp that like the new UI and new features but hated the massive performance hit of Vista vs. XP you will be very pleased. Worth doing immediately imho. One last note, I tried the various RCs and with the timebombs and activation breakage they weren't worth it. This one is, absolutely.
Is it just me or does Ballmer's body language remind you of Hilter giving a speech?
i downloaded sp1 2 weeks ago on microsoft official website. so whats the big deal about this? and plus they're not much of a difference between vista with or w/o sp1
that was a beta version.
@CosterMonger
Is it just me or does Ballmer's body language in that video remind you of Hilter giving a speech?
Don't know how the hell my other comment got down were it ended up before.
Ballmer has a heart?
No. Behind his shirt.. there is only another chair.
Just so people know, there is a torrent that just does the SP1 update, without having to re-install all of windows. Do a search for Standalone Vista SP1 in the regular places and you will find it.
PS it does work, I have tried it and all went well.
DOS 6.0 FTW.
I ALREADY GOT IT... LK AGEEESS AGO... and it works... so yea...
don see much diff from the RC REFRESH .774 or wateva it was called but least now it doesnt say im running longhorn.... lol
Ballmer is a twat and he can suck it.