Apple releases OS X 10.5.2 update, tons of fixes

It's a good day for Leopard users, the latest update (10.5.2) is finally being released, and weighs in at a mighty 180MB+ (some are reporting theirs is over 300MB). As expected this update has a TON of fixes, including stuff in Active Directory, AirPort, BTMM, Dashboard, Dock, Finder, iCal, iChat, iSync, Mail, Preview, Safari, Time Machine, and more -- the choicer of we'll be publishing after the break. Go on, indulge yourself.

P.S. -Oh, purists, you'll definitely love the fact that you can now (finally) turn off menu bar transparency. Score one for the team. (It's in the desktop and screen saver system pref pane.)

P.P.S. -It would appear there's also a second update, the Leopard Graphics Update (about 50MB) which comes through once you've installed 10.5.2. No word on what that one does yet. Thanks, amidamaruflame.

Some of those fixes:

AirPort: Improves connection reliability and stability, more.
Dashboard: Widget performance improvements (as in Dictionary), more.
Dock: Updates Stacks with a list view and folder view options, and an updated background for grid view.
Mail: Improved data detector accuracy, hurts Growl users in disabling GrowlMail version 1.1.2 or earlier (to avoid issues), but also has tons of other fixes.
RAW support: Now supports more RAW formats / cameras (presumably more on Apple's site).
Time Machine: Adds a menu bar option for accessing Time Machine features (the menu extra can be enabled in Time Machine preferences), among other things.

[Chow7 @ Feb 11th 2008 4:14PM]

Finally! Now hopefully the Macbook Pros come tomorrow!

[brianlee @ Feb 11th 2008 5:35PM]

No, I'm waiting for MacBook Air Wozniaks.

[Aviv @ Feb 11th 2008 7:39PM]

OH MAN !!!! I HOPE SO TOO !!!!!! IT"S BEEN SOOOOOO LONG !!!!!!!!!! :)

[fabiang18 @ Feb 11th 2008 7:48PM]

Anyone notice that when you go on Finder and click "About Finder" it says that you are running on Finder version 10.5.3??

(runbing on intel MBP, just updated)

[Todd @ Feb 11th 2008 9:48PM]

Really, I'm pleasantly shocked! I've managed to read the first 15 or so comments without any "hater" comments (though I dare not read further and upset my illusion harmony). While it lasts, enjoy the experience!

[psxp @ Feb 11th 2008 4:14PM]

wow.. big update!!

Is there a full documented list of fixes somewhere?

[Sierra2 @ Feb 11th 2008 4:19PM]

Via Software Update details:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307109

[DMG @ Feb 11th 2008 4:36PM]

My update is 341 MB, a lot of people on macrumors are saying the same thing.

[Sierra2 @ Feb 11th 2008 4:43PM]

P.S. My download was 341MB (Dual-2.0GHz PPC G5). Could just be the PowerPC platform (installed from 10.5.1 retail).

Also, when you get to the grey Apple logo and pinwheel, mine restarted just like one of the Tiger upgrades...twice (though that may have to do with the metric ass ton of Canon printer drivers Apple so graciously provided me with [gotta pay more attention]).

[macona @ Feb 11th 2008 5:33PM]

My update (intel) is 180megs.

[Sierra2 @ Feb 11th 2008 5:46PM]

P. (whatever).

Run Software Update again...there's a "Leopard Graphics Update 1.0"

[JJV @ Feb 13th 2008 3:20PM]

Anybody having problems with iChat?
I can't start (Text) chats without ichat quitting after saying i need to add a participant to the chat. Only happened after 10.5.2....

anybody?

[brianlee @ Feb 11th 2008 4:15PM]

Yay!

[Scottie @ Feb 11th 2008 4:16PM]

This big update will make the MBA a lot heavier!

[Justin B @ Feb 11th 2008 4:16PM]

Time to reinstall baby.

[PINE @ Feb 11th 2008 4:37PM]

You do an entire reinstall when an update comes out?

[Justin B @ Feb 11th 2008 4:43PM]

I had moved to Tiger because Leopard was far too unstable.

[Liam @ Feb 11th 2008 6:42PM]

Really? What programs are you using? I haven't had any issues at all, but I've downloaded this anyway.

[rp @ Feb 11th 2008 7:45PM]

I've had some stability issues with Leopard also, although performance initially seemed pretty good.
Problems:
1) Dock disappears randomly, sometimes changing the auto-hide preference to ON (I always have it off), but won't come back until later (randomly) or restarting the dock via terminal
2) Random pinwheels, occasionally leading to total crash
3) General application slowdown
4) Major app launch slowdown... reminds me of my Lombard, and this is a dual 2 ghz G5

Hopefully, this thing will work those issues out.

[alc @ Feb 14th 2008 10:07AM]

I had the same problems. Then I've formated the HDD with the Extended Journaled (HFS Plus) and now everything works fine. Don't forget to backup first

[Ben @ Feb 11th 2008 4:16PM]

When are they going to release the Apple TV update? I want to rent movies!

[SIC TR4NSIT @ Feb 11th 2008 4:16PM]

It just works... lol... J/k, please dont flame me...

(DISCLAIMER: Im not saying any other competitor is better or worse, just making fun of their slogan.)

[Stimpski @ Feb 11th 2008 4:46PM]

It still just works. What's your point?

[Dale @ Feb 11th 2008 4:58PM]

How's Vista treating you?

[SIC TR4NSIT @ Feb 11th 2008 5:01PM]

First, If it just worked, you wouldnt need a massive update to fix bugs... Secondly I specifically stated that I wasn't claiming either of the "Big 3" was superior to another. Also, who said I used Vista?

It, afterall was a joke, don't be so dense.

[slacks @ Feb 11th 2008 5:54PM]

Yea, but every time an update comes out engadget readers have to hear the same joke. So, I guess people are kind of tired of hearing it. I just wish people would get tired of saying it...

[Ignatius @ Feb 11th 2008 6:09PM]

People won't get tired of saying it til Apple fanboys stop worshiping the ground that Steve Jobs walks on.

Take off the fanboy goggles and realize that both OSes share their own set of issues. Just because a company says the product is flawless or better than another does not make it true.

OSX is not perfect, Windows Vista is not perfect. Plain and simple fact of life.

[lhawes @ Feb 11th 2008 6:21PM]

@ Ignatius

Amen

[zevdawg @ Feb 11th 2008 6:27PM]

What about linux?

[slacks @ Feb 11th 2008 6:35PM]

@Ignatius

eh, whatever. Some people like the OS, or else they wouldn't use it. I don't know about worshiping steve jobs, but If it didn't work well enough for 5 or 8 percent (or whatever it's up to) of the market, they would have ditched it by now.

I don't think anyone would ever argue that an OS is perfect, and I don't know many people that takes any companies slogan as fact. I wouldn't get so bent out of shape about it, really. I don't think any apple users are out to get any windows or linux users. Just use whatever you like. :-)

[Andrew Campbell @ Feb 11th 2008 7:30PM]

@SIC TR4NSIT: If you post a useless comment, you're going to get useless replies. Not knowing this simple fact makes you the dense one in this case.

[SIC TR4NSIT @ Feb 11th 2008 9:51PM]

Andrew Campbell>> Im not going to take advice on the subject of being dense from a guy with 90% of his posts either slamming Microsoft or praising Apple...

Oh, and my girlfriend says your moms dense....

[SWK595 @ Feb 12th 2008 2:52PM]

Your inflatable girlfriend's wit doesn't quite surpass my chia pet. Try again.

[SIC TR4NSIT @ Feb 12th 2008 4:13PM]

Yes, inflatable, thats it... Nobody has a sense of humor anymore... All you macfanboys try to do is convert people and you just end up looking like assholes. You troll to recruit, but all you do is drive people away. The macfanboys act holier than though. And that, my friends, is yet another reason why I will never buy a mac. Ill roll Kool-aid free with windows and linux thank you.

[fahnboi @ Feb 12th 2008 6:06PM]

geez.. and i thought you were "joking"? guess you exposed yourself as a hypocritical troller. ah well.

[Scottie @ Feb 11th 2008 4:20PM]

Yes, finally. That means the new MBPs are on their way. Possibly tomorrow!!!!

[stunta @ Feb 11th 2008 4:20PM]

So does this update contain stuff that should have been in the original release in the first place? Oh wait, that question is only valid for non-Apple OSes.

[Jon @ Feb 11th 2008 6:34PM]

Wait, last i checked, it was the non apple os's that didnt charge you for the itouch update, and the wireless N firmware.

[bondsbw @ Feb 11th 2008 10:06PM]

Jon...

Tell me exactly which OS vendor gives away a free iPod Touch update. I kind of thought Apple was in charge of that.

And while we're at it... which OS vendor gives away free firmware that upgrades network cards advertised as Wireless-G to Wireless-N? And since OS vendors don't tend to do that, which hardware vendor even does that?

[JJV @ Feb 11th 2008 11:35PM]

@ Jon

Last time I checked those no other company could even get close to the popularity of the iPod. And most companies don't even include Wireless N as standard you still have to pay a 100$ for the adapter to be built in. So which would you have rather payed? 2.99$ or 100+$?

[monkfishbandana @ Feb 12th 2008 5:11AM]

@ bondsbw & JJV

Fools. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jon was just pointing out that Apple charged for the updates unnecessarily; he wasn't actually saying that other vendors gave them out for free. You'd think I'd get bored of laughing at people missing the point, wouldn't you - but I don't.

Oh, and JJV, what the heck does the iPod's popularity have to do with the argument? Oh, and I own many Apple products, love them, and still find fanboys annoying.

[Ryan L. @ Feb 11th 2008 4:21PM]

Fixes? I thought it was supposed to be perfect to begin with?

[caleb @ Feb 11th 2008 4:35PM]

Apple users are way too picky for everything to ever be perfect.

[Ian @ Feb 11th 2008 6:01PM]

o man dude what is perfect? has anything ever been perfect? if it was perfect it would never crash, never run out of battery (laptops), never need updating. fuck man if people say apple is perfect then id hate to see what they think is imperfect.

written on a mac, by someone who likes his mac.

[B.C. @ Feb 11th 2008 6:47PM]

Re: caleb "Apple users are way too picky for everything to ever be perfect."

Thats it exactly. I'm way to picky to bother with all the headaches and problems when using a PC; I think this is the same for many. It's this picky-ness/fastidiousness of Apple users that keeps pressure on them to make a good product.
Most people that use a Mac were PC users that got fed up and switched.

[Anonymous @ Feb 11th 2008 8:48PM]

@ caleb

If I pay $3000 for a laptop it better be perfect!

[jbhitter24 @ Feb 11th 2008 4:21PM]

oh i see they're not charging this time around?

[thephotoman @ Feb 11th 2008 6:05PM]

They don't charge for bugfixes, only for major releases: 10.5 was something you had to pay for, but once you've bought it, the update to 10.5.1 (or 10.5.2) is free.

[slacks @ Feb 11th 2008 5:54PM]

Nope, "service pack" updates are free, just like for most commercial operating systems.

[CharlieX @ Feb 11th 2008 4:22PM]

Leopard! Now with more Cat!