Apple releases OS X 10.5.2 update, tons of fixes
By Ryan Block 
posted Feb 11th 2008 4:11PM
posted Feb 11th 2008 4:11PM
P.S. -Oh, purists, you'll definitely love the fact that you can now (finally) turn off menu bar transparency. Score one for the team. (It's in the desktop and screen saver system pref pane.)
P.P.S. -It would appear there's also a second update, the Leopard Graphics Update (about 50MB) which comes through once you've installed 10.5.2. No word on what that one does yet. Thanks, amidamaruflame.
Some of those fixes:
AirPort: Improves connection reliability and stability, more.
Dashboard: Widget performance improvements (as in Dictionary), more.
Dock: Updates Stacks with a list view and folder view options, and an updated background for grid view.
Mail: Improved data detector accuracy, hurts Growl users in disabling GrowlMail version 1.1.2 or earlier (to avoid issues), but also has tons of other fixes.
RAW support: Now supports more RAW formats / cameras (presumably more on Apple's site).
Time Machine: Adds a menu bar option for accessing Time Machine features (the menu extra can be enabled in Time Machine preferences), among other things.
Finally! Now hopefully the Macbook Pros come tomorrow!
No, I'm waiting for MacBook Air Wozniaks.
OH MAN !!!! I HOPE SO TOO !!!!!! IT"S BEEN SOOOOOO LONG !!!!!!!!!! :)
Anyone notice that when you go on Finder and click "About Finder" it says that you are running on Finder version 10.5.3??
(runbing on intel MBP, just updated)
Really, I'm pleasantly shocked! I've managed to read the first 15 or so comments without any "hater" comments (though I dare not read further and upset my illusion harmony). While it lasts, enjoy the experience!
Yay!
Fixes? I thought it was supposed to be perfect to begin with?
Apple users are way too picky for everything to ever be perfect.
o man dude what is perfect? has anything ever been perfect? if it was perfect it would never crash, never run out of battery (laptops), never need updating. fuck man if people say apple is perfect then id hate to see what they think is imperfect.
written on a mac, by someone who likes his mac.
Re: caleb "Apple users are way too picky for everything to ever be perfect."
Thats it exactly. I'm way to picky to bother with all the headaches and problems when using a PC; I think this is the same for many. It's this picky-ness/fastidiousness of Apple users that keeps pressure on them to make a good product.
Most people that use a Mac were PC users that got fed up and switched.
@ caleb
If I pay $3000 for a laptop it better be perfect!
Yes, finally. That means the new MBPs are on their way. Possibly tomorrow!!!!
wow.. big update!!
Is there a full documented list of fixes somewhere?
Via Software Update details:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307109
My update is 341 MB, a lot of people on macrumors are saying the same thing.
P.S. My download was 341MB (Dual-2.0GHz PPC G5). Could just be the PowerPC platform (installed from 10.5.1 retail).
Also, when you get to the grey Apple logo and pinwheel, mine restarted just like one of the Tiger upgrades...twice (though that may have to do with the metric ass ton of Canon printer drivers Apple so graciously provided me with [gotta pay more attention]).
My update (intel) is 180megs.
P. (whatever).
Run Software Update again...there's a "Leopard Graphics Update 1.0"
Anybody having problems with iChat?
I can't start (Text) chats without ichat quitting after saying i need to add a participant to the chat. Only happened after 10.5.2....
anybody?
This big update will make the MBA a lot heavier!
Time to reinstall baby.
You do an entire reinstall when an update comes out?
I had moved to Tiger because Leopard was far too unstable.
Really? What programs are you using? I haven't had any issues at all, but I've downloaded this anyway.
I've had some stability issues with Leopard also, although performance initially seemed pretty good.
Problems:
1) Dock disappears randomly, sometimes changing the auto-hide preference to ON (I always have it off), but won't come back until later (randomly) or restarting the dock via terminal
2) Random pinwheels, occasionally leading to total crash
3) General application slowdown
4) Major app launch slowdown... reminds me of my Lombard, and this is a dual 2 ghz G5
Hopefully, this thing will work those issues out.
I had the same problems. Then I've formated the HDD with the Extended Journaled (HFS Plus) and now everything works fine. Don't forget to backup first
When are they going to release the Apple TV update? I want to rent movies!
It just works... lol... J/k, please dont flame me...
(DISCLAIMER: Im not saying any other competitor is better or worse, just making fun of their slogan.)
It still just works. What's your point?
How's Vista treating you?
First, If it just worked, you wouldnt need a massive update to fix bugs... Secondly I specifically stated that I wasn't claiming either of the "Big 3" was superior to another. Also, who said I used Vista?
It, afterall was a joke, don't be so dense.
Yea, but every time an update comes out engadget readers have to hear the same joke. So, I guess people are kind of tired of hearing it. I just wish people would get tired of saying it...
People won't get tired of saying it til Apple fanboys stop worshiping the ground that Steve Jobs walks on.
Take off the fanboy goggles and realize that both OSes share their own set of issues. Just because a company says the product is flawless or better than another does not make it true.
OSX is not perfect, Windows Vista is not perfect. Plain and simple fact of life.
@ Ignatius
Amen
What about linux?
@Ignatius
eh, whatever. Some people like the OS, or else they wouldn't use it. I don't know about worshiping steve jobs, but If it didn't work well enough for 5 or 8 percent (or whatever it's up to) of the market, they would have ditched it by now.
I don't think anyone would ever argue that an OS is perfect, and I don't know many people that takes any companies slogan as fact. I wouldn't get so bent out of shape about it, really. I don't think any apple users are out to get any windows or linux users. Just use whatever you like. :-)
@SIC TR4NSIT: If you post a useless comment, you're going to get useless replies. Not knowing this simple fact makes you the dense one in this case.
Andrew Campbell>> Im not going to take advice on the subject of being dense from a guy with 90% of his posts either slamming Microsoft or praising Apple...
Oh, and my girlfriend says your moms dense....
Your inflatable girlfriend's wit doesn't quite surpass my chia pet. Try again.
Yes, inflatable, thats it... Nobody has a sense of humor anymore... All you macfanboys try to do is convert people and you just end up looking like assholes. You troll to recruit, but all you do is drive people away. The macfanboys act holier than though. And that, my friends, is yet another reason why I will never buy a mac. Ill roll Kool-aid free with windows and linux thank you.
geez.. and i thought you were "joking"? guess you exposed yourself as a hypocritical troller. ah well.
So does this update contain stuff that should have been in the original release in the first place? Oh wait, that question is only valid for non-Apple OSes.
Wait, last i checked, it was the non apple os's that didnt charge you for the itouch update, and the wireless N firmware.
Jon...
Tell me exactly which OS vendor gives away a free iPod Touch update. I kind of thought Apple was in charge of that.
And while we're at it... which OS vendor gives away free firmware that upgrades network cards advertised as Wireless-G to Wireless-N? And since OS vendors don't tend to do that, which hardware vendor even does that?
@ Jon
Last time I checked those no other company could even get close to the popularity of the iPod. And most companies don't even include Wireless N as standard you still have to pay a 100$ for the adapter to be built in. So which would you have rather payed? 2.99$ or 100+$?
@ bondsbw & JJV
Fools. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jon was just pointing out that Apple charged for the updates unnecessarily; he wasn't actually saying that other vendors gave them out for free. You'd think I'd get bored of laughing at people missing the point, wouldn't you - but I don't.
Oh, and JJV, what the heck does the iPod's popularity have to do with the argument? Oh, and I own many Apple products, love them, and still find fanboys annoying.
oh i see they're not charging this time around?
They don't charge for bugfixes, only for major releases: 10.5 was something you had to pay for, but once you've bought it, the update to 10.5.1 (or 10.5.2) is free.
Nope, "service pack" updates are free, just like for most commercial operating systems.
Leopard! Now with more Cat!
My machine cliams it's a 341MB download
Not on update Tuesday? weird... hopefully apple has a surprise for us tomorrow...
They better. Their "week or two" extension for the Apple TV update is up tomorrow.
all for a low cost of $29.99
I cant get over the amount of nonsense comments I have to read through just to find something valuable - so is there any news/rumors or insight on the Apple TV update? (now someone is gonna write how "Apple TV is non-sense..."
Yeah, the above was for all the "special" people who are always blathering on and on about Apple charging for updates. I figured if I spoke their language they might figure it out faster.
You can now view folders in the dock as lists. No hacks and 3rd party apps required anymore.
My update on my 24" Alu iMac is 341 megs. Odd, is it downloading twice?
let me guess, I still won't be able to use a hard drive plugged into airport EXTREME!!!!!! as a time machine back up will I? without that hack, of course...
Still no fix for the THai Thonburi font bug. What the heck is going on now? Gosh ..
Where can you find the non transparent menu bar?
I can't find it under the display and screen saver thing.
Under "System Preference", "Desktop & Screensaver", "Desktop" (right underneath "Change picture every XXX min"
Try the Appearance control panel for the non-transparent menu bar...
I saw it right before I saw this. I swear it wasn't there before. I mean I looked over and over again?!?!?!?!
Ignore my comment about Appearance - it's wrong, it was in Desktop & Screen Saver (argh, memory is going)...
Unless it fixes the PS3 issues I've (along with so many other have) had, no way. Between Adobe and Mac finger-pointing at each other during hellish week of me installing the OS, to reverting back to a previous OS, I've been disgusted with Leopard.
if you mean CS3, i'll second that. i'd sure like something stable and bug-free to work with sometime in the next year or 3.
Yep. It fixes most (if not all - I haven't tested some of the ones that didn't bother me) of the CS3 problems (cropping, enter numeric values for things like brushes, etc.).
Also, PDF is now fixed too - I can again print to PDF and save as PDF.
I made do with the new OS and the CS3 issues, but now I'm a lot happier.
it's 341 megs for me too.
Mine was 341 aswell
Odd, it's only 180MB for me. MacBook Pro 2.2Ghz with all the most recent patches etc.
What's with this "OMG it's 340" or "gosh, it's only 180", guys?
Just saying that it sounds like you are either hard up for HD space or have a slow connection....
Let's not forget, 10.5.2 also introduces comprehensive support for SSE4.
10.5.2 Server as well has been released.
Received an update last night and after restarting my "Macintosh HD" icon on my desktop is gone. Thanks for the update, i now i have an issue. ANyone else have the same issue after a software update?
Check Finder's preferences -> General -> is "Hard disk" under "Show these items on the desktop" checked? If it's not, you've found the reason to your problem.
I'm on a 2.2Ghz MacBook [Late 2007 ofcourse :P] and it was 341mb...hmmmm
Nice though!
Wow, its real toss up between Vista and Leopard these days, isn't it?
340 MBs for an *update* - and its not even the first for Leopard. That's not an update, that's a new OS!
Small wonder then perhaps I'm spending more an more time on my Linux-powered ASUS eeePC - with nary a crash, freeze, beach ball and/or blue screen, security or quirky proprietary software 'issue' (or series of massive Updates)in the three months I've had it...
Anyone hear if it fixes the dreaded keyboard issue on macbooks (keyboard stops working)?
They fixed that about a month ago with an update:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookmacbookprosoftwareupdate11.html
YES! My favorite that apparently only affects a handful of users including me:
Addresses an issue in which the backlight could turn off before Energy Saver's backlight setting.
Nice, stacks suck considerably less. now their on par with what was already in objectdock.
My update (intel MBP) was 180 also.
On a side note, I hadn't been experiencing any of the problems people are complaining about to begin with, everything works like it should, as I've come to expect from apple.
Mine is 341mb's too. I hope it fixes my stacks words not showing up!
Gotta love it. The changes between 10.1 and 10.2 and 10.3 amount to the equivelent of a service pack. The changes between 10.4.1 and 10.4.10 are more like the standard updates that Microsoft puts out every week or two. I will admit the difference between 10.0 and 10.1 are pretty big but then again 10.0 was more useless than Vista will ever be but it was also new. There are differences between 10.4 and 10.5 that go a little beyond the standard service pack and thus more things are broken than usual.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2170/2259017660_a190426353_o.png
Dont forget to hit update again for Graphics Update!
Huh, my AirDisk (connected to an Air Port Extreme N, firmware 7.2.1) is showing up in TimeMachine now.
Here's a few screenies of updates for those who want to see 'em and can't install for some reason!
Not much, http://www.flickr.com/photos/7942933@N05/tags/leopard/
Fixes for what? Surly, the whole "it just works" mantra is true, ain't it?
Maybe the new slogan should be "It just works - eventually".
I got the whole 341MB download, but no video update showing...
I wish they would have fixed the many Safari issues, mainly the problem with the scroll wheel in Google Maps.
@tadghostal:
There are many reply buttons to click, you chose the wrong one.
I wonder how many users "downgraded" to pre-leopard (i.e., didn't install Leopard, or uninstalled it due to bugs). I guess we'll never know, because engadget only mentions stuff that negative when it relates to Vista. Such fanboys.
tadghostal, i've made a note that you don't like apple fanboys and have distributed it around my office. thanks for your input, i'll make sure the word gets out on your feelings.
Percentage wise it's a lot less than people who downgraded again to XP. No pleas for continuing Tiger and no people demanding for Tiger installed Mac's. If only Microsoft could pull of such an upgrade your post would be not so much of a troll post.
Apple has faults no doubt, You would be a fool not to think so, but I don't think you can get much worse than Windows Genuine Advantage. The Idea of buying XP/Vista and then having the OS check up on your hardware, To make sure it's not a pirate copy, And if the OS suspect it is, It will nag you or reduce the functions in the OS, Until you contact Microsoft, is just cold. It shows there is a high level of mistrust between Microsoft and it's users.
adrian FTW
Oh the windows folks are full of envy again. Microsoft threats them so poorly. 7 years they had to wait to finally get some eyecandy on their systems and now those folks think they bought an entire upgrade wich actually is only a trimmed down version of what you would expect from an upgrade. You gotta give it to those folks they stay optimistic even when they know in 2 years their systems will be so outdated with no upgrade waiting for them. But the hopes are so high because in a few weeks their servicepack comes out of wich they hope will be packed with tons of new features. NOT!
Graphics Update shows up after 10.5.2 restart
Lol, after noticing that all you ever seem to to is berate other folk's comments (I looked at your post history), I seriously doubt you're employed at all, and if you are, I doubt it's in an office.