I agree... Besides, $69 for a 2GB shuffle is still too much when you can get a 2GB Zen Stone Plus (with an LCD screen and built in speaker, although I doubt the speaker is very good) for $59.99.
shuffle = great for working out. For 50 bucks I'd get an iPod with a built in clip.. that sounds perfect for just picking it up to have a work out mix on it. Versus getting this Zen Stone/Plus which looks like it has to dangle around my neck or be in my pocket while I run, which is annoying. And the shuffle is priced exactly equal with the Zen Stone.
Side note: Im sick of electronics companies installing a speaker into music players. The person sitting next to you doesn't want to hear your crappy music. As it is there are always the people the are hard of hearing and crank their stuff up so loud that even with the earbuds in you can hear their music.
The Zen Stone doesn't play AAC and doesn't sync with iTunes. Say what you want about iTunes, the FACT is that it's become the standard media manager on Windows/Mac (for better or worse).
That fact alone is enough to make it a non-starter for a lot of average Joe's out there.
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Meh.
I agree... Besides, $69 for a 2GB shuffle is still too much when you can get a 2GB Zen Stone Plus (with an LCD screen and built in speaker, although I doubt the speaker is very good) for $59.99.
Correction: OLED screen, not LCD (on the Zen Stone Plus)
Zen Stones ftw!
1GB - $35/£28 RRP
2GB - $55/£40 RRP with screen
4GB - $??/£68 RRP with screen
Oh, and don't forget, the Zen Stone Plus series has a radio tuner... Sorry Apple, better luck next time.
does it come in pink now?
And the Zen Stone Plus is more than twice the size of the shuffle, and it doesn't have a clip. To each his or her own.
shuffle = great for working out. For 50 bucks I'd get an iPod with a built in clip.. that sounds perfect for just picking it up to have a work out mix on it. Versus getting this Zen Stone/Plus which looks like it has to dangle around my neck or be in my pocket while I run, which is annoying. And the shuffle is priced exactly equal with the Zen Stone.
Side note: Im sick of electronics companies installing a speaker into music players. The person sitting next to you doesn't want to hear your crappy music. As it is there are always the people the are hard of hearing and crank their stuff up so loud that even with the earbuds in you can hear their music.
The Zen Stone doesn't play AAC and doesn't sync with iTunes. Say what you want about iTunes, the FACT is that it's become the standard media manager on Windows/Mac (for better or worse).
That fact alone is enough to make it a non-starter for a lot of average Joe's out there.
@wombat
More than twice the size, huh? It's not even twice the size. Not really even that much larger. Get your facts straight.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/which-is-smaller/sizemodo-creative-zen-stone-vs-apple-ipod-shuffle-257526.php
@Scott
The Zen Stone Plus w/speaker does play AAC. But hey, don't take my word for it. I like to show proof before I spout off at the mouth.
http://us.creative.com/local/1/promo/findyourzen/welcome.asp?WT.cg_n=Campaigns&WT.mc_id=10579
Why don't *you* get *your* facts straight? I said Zen Stone Plus, which comes in 2GB form. The original Zen Stone only comes in 1GB.
iPod shuffle - 1.07"x1.62"x0.41" = 0.71" cubed
Zen Stone Plus - 2.19"x1.39"x0.5" = 1.52" cubed
@wombat
I apologize, you are correct. I was mistaken.
Still, feature for feature, the Zen Stone Plus (which also comes in 4GB) seems like the better deal.
and don't forget the Sansa Clip!