Before iPod fanatics can jump in another one of those "but iPod had this a long time ago, M$ is copying again", we should note that:
1. Games for the most part can work on the new AND old generation Zune. 2. Developers get to CREATE games. 3. Many of these games will most likely be free.
And if you pull the stupid "copying" card, how about the iPod Touch copying the Zune because it now has WiFi? Zune had it awhile ago first. So is Apple copying by including a feature people want?
All companies continually add new features, and just because somebody did it first, doesn't mean it can't be on another company's product. I would love to see how the iPod Touch without WiFi would be, because Zune had WiFi first.
The Zune may have had wifi first, but my iPod touch is allowing me to comment on this pathetic comment. I dare you to respond from your Zune.
And:
1. Who even knew there was more than one type of Zune? 2. Wait for the iPhone SDK. I'm pretty sure everyone will be busy developing for that. 3. Who is going to spend money on an inferior product and then spend more many for crap games?
@John : My point is, is that first doesn't matter. Whoever makes it better counts more. The iPod rocks in WiFi, and the Zune now rocks in games.
As far as I'm concerned, the Zune's gaming options at least look better than the iPod's mediocre service.
1. I did. So did many Zune users. Gadget enthusiasts who keep tabs on the news. 2. Why wait? What took so long? And it's known that Microsoft is a bit more open than Apple, who likes to control as much as they can, and are reluctant to opening their products. I'm not an iPhone user, so it wouldn't matter to me anyways. 3. In my opinion, if you've used both Zunes and iPods for a long time, Zunes seem to have more bang for their buck than the iPods. That's my opinion of course, as much as your opinion is yours.
And if you read the post and other comments, it seems likely that these indie developer games will be free. If you don't like the game, don't get them. I'm quite sure some people might want gaming on their device.
So why don't you go bug off and keep showing off your iPhone to people on the streets? It's obvious you know little about Zunes and should bother commenting on stuff you don't even know.
1. Engadget, google, gizmodo, facebook, myspace, microsoft, apple, CNet...I could go on 2. So apparently everyone owns an iPhone, and *ONLY* people want to develop for the iPhone and nothing else, not anything special like developing a new Linux Kernel or anything else 3. Well, Apple convinced people to spend $20 for more crap for their Touch
@michael: My god you are stupid. I could smite your inferior intelligence in so many ways, but I have neither the time nor the concern, so let me point out one thing- HE SAID HE HAS AN IPOD TOUCH. NOT an iPhone. idiot...
It costs twice as much, but it's ok, because it has twice the screen resolution, twice the battery life, and a thousand times the potential!!!
What we were talking about had everything to do with the SDK!
Michael and I have been commenting back and forth, if you are going to jump into the conversation, then I suggest you read our previous posts, that may clear things up for you!
@pismodude: I'm not a developer of any kind, so usually news of such isn't at all my cup of tea. I know that the iPhone/Touch SDK hasn't come for awhile, and it's made some disappointed.
So I don't know that the SDK for the iPhone and Touch is the same. John doesn't either, if he's saying iPhone SDK, but not Touch SDK which would apply to him more, since he's not an iPhone user.
So give up already. At least I'm not trying to throw insults as much as you and John are. Read through the previous postings, and you guys are the ones sparking all this. So stop already. I usually don't get dragged into such long responding, but I think I'm going to call it quits today. You can keep up the childish backlash if you wish.
It doesn't matter that your replying to the comment on a iPod touch. My touch is sitting next to me charging. I'm replying on my computer because it's a hell of a lot quicker then hunting and pecking the touch screen. But how many games can I play on my touch right now? Answer: none. Zero. Unless I want to jailbreak it. I did that once and it reset on me. I had nothing until I was able to get home to restore it.
As for the Zune. I'll be picking one up. I need something for when I'm working out. And I don't think I want to test if the touch can handle it.
When the SDK comes out for the Touch / iPhone I'm sure we will see games. However it's not out so I don't see any games.
IS EVERYONE ON ENGADGET TODAY A TOTAL MORON??? I DON"T EVEN OWN AN IPOD TOUCH!!! WTF GUYS?????
@michael
THE IPHONE SDK IS THE IPOD TOUCH SDK, IT IS CALLED THE IPHONE SDK (probably because the iPhone and iPod Touch will run the same apps) AND YOUR PREVIOUS ARGUMENT TELLING JOHN THAT HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE SECOND KIND OF ZUNE APPLIES HERE. YOU CAN"T DIS SOMETHING IF YOU DON"T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Before iPod fanatics can jump in another one of those "but iPod had this a long time ago, M$ is copying again", we should note that:
1. Games for the most part can work on the new AND old generation Zune.
2. Developers get to CREATE games.
3. Many of these games will most likely be free.
And if you pull the stupid "copying" card, how about the iPod Touch copying the Zune because it now has WiFi? Zune had it awhile ago first. So is Apple copying by including a feature people want?
All companies continually add new features, and just because somebody did it first, doesn't mean it can't be on another company's product. I would love to see how the iPod Touch without WiFi would be, because Zune had WiFi first.
my cranium had wifi before the first fanboy uttered "Zoon!"
@phanbuoy : Maybe I wasn't making myself clear, I mean in comparison between the iPod and the Zune, the Zune had WiFi first.
NOT that the Zune was the first of any device to have WiFi. Definitely not.
The Zune may have had wifi first, but my iPod touch is allowing me to comment on this pathetic comment. I dare you to respond from your Zune.
And:
1. Who even knew there was more than one type of Zune?
2. Wait for the iPhone SDK. I'm pretty sure everyone will be busy developing for that.
3. Who is going to spend money on an inferior product and then spend more many for crap games?
@John : My point is, is that first doesn't matter. Whoever makes it better counts more. The iPod rocks in WiFi, and the Zune now rocks in games.
As far as I'm concerned, the Zune's gaming options at least look better than the iPod's mediocre service.
1. I did. So did many Zune users. Gadget enthusiasts who keep tabs on the news.
2. Why wait? What took so long? And it's known that Microsoft is a bit more open than Apple, who likes to control as much as they can, and are reluctant to opening their products. I'm not an iPhone user, so it wouldn't matter to me anyways.
3. In my opinion, if you've used both Zunes and iPods for a long time, Zunes seem to have more bang for their buck than the iPods. That's my opinion of course, as much as your opinion is yours.
And if you read the post and other comments, it seems likely that these indie developer games will be free. If you don't like the game, don't get them. I'm quite sure some people might want gaming on their device.
So why don't you go bug off and keep showing off your iPhone to people on the streets? It's obvious you know little about Zunes and should bother commenting on stuff you don't even know.
ohhh. dear mikey, that went so far over your head i feel a touch guilty.
AT&T invented Wi-Fi. Apple made friends with AT&T. Apple's mobile devices are now getting Wi-FI.
Apple begins selling iPods. Microsoft begins to sell Zunes. Apple adds games to iPods. The Zune now has games.
One of these companies is copying another. The other is just naturally changing due to partnerships. Can you guess which one is which?
@ John:
1. Engadget, google, gizmodo, facebook, myspace, microsoft, apple, CNet...I could go on
2. So apparently everyone owns an iPhone, and *ONLY* people want to develop for the iPhone and nothing else, not anything special like developing a new Linux Kernel or anything else
3. Well, Apple convinced people to spend $20 for more crap for their Touch
@michael: My god you are stupid. I could smite your inferior intelligence in so many ways, but I have neither the time nor the concern, so let me point out one thing- HE SAID HE HAS AN IPOD TOUCH. NOT an iPhone. idiot...
@Pismodude : Wrong. He said iPhone. Quote:
"2. Wait for the iPhone SDK."
I don't think I'm the idiot here...
@michael
Yeah, you are. I quote: "my iPod touch is allowing me to comment"
Ergo- he has an iPod Touch, and is waiting for the iPhone SDK. Thanks for playing, and have a nice day.;-)
@pismodude : Ok, I was wrong. But all the other things I said were true.
I don't get why he would comment about an SDK that wouldn't matter to him anyways. Talk about double standards.
@michael
Remember how you told john that he didn't know squat about Zunes?
Yeah, well, this isn't exactly your turf bud. The iPhone SDK is for
the iPod Touch and the iPhone. LINK:
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/17/apple-we-plan-to-have-an-iphone-sdk-in-developers-hands-in-fe/
Pismodude,
That has nothing to do with the SDK.
Also, comparing the Zune to the iPod Touch is a joke.
The closest you can get storage wise is 32 GB, and even then the iPod Touch costs double the amount of a Zune 80.
@Guzzle
It costs twice as much, but it's ok, because it has twice the screen
resolution, twice the battery life, and a thousand times the
potential!!!
What we were talking about had everything to do with the SDK!
Michael and I have been commenting back and forth, if you are going to jump into the conversation, then I suggest you read our previous posts, that may clear things up for you!
@pismodude: I'm not a developer of any kind, so usually news of such isn't at all my cup of tea. I know that the iPhone/Touch SDK hasn't come for awhile, and it's made some disappointed.
So I don't know that the SDK for the iPhone and Touch is the same. John doesn't either, if he's saying iPhone SDK, but not Touch SDK which would apply to him more, since he's not an iPhone user.
So give up already. At least I'm not trying to throw insults as much as you and John are. Read through the previous postings, and you guys are the ones sparking all this. So stop already. I usually don't get dragged into such long responding, but I think I'm going to call it quits today. You can keep up the childish backlash if you wish.
@Pismodude
It doesn't matter that your replying to the comment on a iPod touch. My touch is sitting next to me charging. I'm replying on my computer because it's a hell of a lot quicker then hunting and pecking the touch screen.
But how many games can I play on my touch right now? Answer: none. Zero. Unless I want to jailbreak it. I did that once and it reset on me. I had nothing until I was able to get home to restore it.
As for the Zune. I'll be picking one up. I need something for when I'm working out. And I don't think I want to test if the touch can handle it.
When the SDK comes out for the Touch / iPhone I'm sure we will see games. However it's not out so I don't see any games.
@CaptCaveman
IS EVERYONE ON ENGADGET TODAY A TOTAL MORON??? I DON"T EVEN OWN AN IPOD TOUCH!!! WTF GUYS?????
@michael
THE IPHONE SDK IS THE IPOD TOUCH SDK, IT IS CALLED THE IPHONE SDK (probably because the iPhone and iPod Touch will run the same apps) AND YOUR PREVIOUS ARGUMENT TELLING JOHN THAT HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE SECOND KIND OF ZUNE APPLIES HERE. YOU CAN"T DIS SOMETHING IF YOU DON"T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS MY LAST POST, GOOD DAY!
@John who said: "The Zune may have had wifi first, but my iPod touch is allowing me to comment on this pathetic comment. I dare you to respond from your Zune."
I dare you to quote me when replying (c/p LOL)