Right at the buzzer, Apple shipped us a Time Capsule -- and just like we remember, it's a bit bigger than you'd expect. We're about to set it up in our WiFi torture chamber of an apartment building, we'll let you know how it goes -- unboxing in the gallery below.
Considering this is an 802.11n file server, what additional cables do you feel they owe you? They gave all the cables that a competent user would need to set it up.
Wow, this is actually pretty cool. As stand alone WiFi hard drive? Awesome if you don't have a wireless network- just plain convenient, too, if the speed isn't lacking.
It's a wireless hard drive and a wireless N network base station and have ethernet ports and allows you to attach a printer or other external HD (and share it wireless) via USB. It really has everything.
I'm running a MAc Lab with a Leopard Host and Tiger Clients. Before I'd even consider getting one of these, I have to have my lab upgraded to Leopard. Problem is, Leopard sucks on a G5 1.8ghz with only 512 ram so it looks like we have to get upgrades for each of the 30 emacs and the host before we can continue.
I'd like to see SSD Time Capsules. Even if they release them right now for $5000 my budget can afford em.
I doubt your processor speed is the problem, probably that mere half gig of RAM. Even my 600mhz G3 iBook had 640mb (maxed out). I switch between a 2GB Mac Pro quad 2.66 (Tiger) at home, and a 2.5GB Power Mac G5 dual 2.0 (Leopard) at work.
I haven't seen a compelling reason to switch to Leopard at home -- just too lazy to do an OS reinstall. However I don't notice much of a performance hit at all on the older machine, so I can't imagine Leopard is noticably slower than Tiger on similar hardware.
I'm running a MAc Lab with a Leopard Host and Tiger Clients. Before I'd even consider getting one of these, I have to have my lab upgraded to Leopard. Problem is, Leopard sucks on a G5 1.8ghz with only 512 ram so it looks like we have to get upgrades for each of the 30 emacs and the host before we can continue.
I'd like to see SSD Time Capsules. Even if they release them right now for $5000 my budget can afford em.
The easier companies make it for end users to do backups, the less dismayed the rest of us are when we get that phone call "my computer isn't working..."
I think its shitty to have something that needs to be connected to a modem and not include the cable. Yes, I have plenty of cables kicking around somewhere, but the average consumer doesn't want to have to go digging around to make a $500 purchase "just work."
The average user will be connecting this to a DSL / Cable modem that is either:
a) New in the box and includes the CAT5 b) Already connected directly to one of their computers via a CAT5 cable.
Moreover, CAT5 is not required for operation of the device. If you are setting it up with no internet uplink, it will still serve its primary function of providing wireless network connectivity with access to a NAS.
I'm all for companies including the necessary cables for operation; but I just can't see a scenario where you'd need a CAT5 cable in the box here.
what if they had a computer that had to use an ethernet cable, and they were just using the one that came with the modem, this takes that away and you would have to purchase another cable or a wireless adapter for that computer to go on the internet
leave the poor guy alone.. all hes askin for is a cheap ass cable with his $500 purchase. It's like wanting that crappy apple remote with the new Mac Pro line. Im dropping more cash than the consumer line people, why do they get a free remote/IR sensor? I guess it could be worse, Apple could supply the Time Capsule with a cable that is too short to do any good... kinda like what they do with their keyboards.
And this is commin from a persona that likes Apple. So don't just low rank me because you think im some Windows fanboy.
bigger than what? Is it the same size as the current Airport extremes? Same size as AppleTV? Same size as an Apple mini? Which footprint can we compare it to.
Check the gallery -- it's a lot bigger the UFO-style Airport Extreme and thicker than a MacBook, but about the same size as standard Belkin Pre-N router.
The Mac Mini and AirPory Extreme Base Station have the exact same footprint. The AppleTV and Time Capsule have the exact same footprint. This info is easy had by a very simple Google search.
I was a little confused by this remark as well--and the fact that they compare its size not with the current generation airport extreme but with the previous generation airport express.
What I would love to know is if you can only back up to Time Capsule using Time Machine? or can you use it like any other external hard drive and just send files to it?
Of course. You'll get full access to it like any other networked drive. The real question is, can you use a network drive attached drive connected to the Time Capsules USB port as a Time Machine drive out-of-the-box?
Can you test to see how it handles TimeMachine recovery if my whole machine has tanked. Can I NetBoot off of it? Also, whats the firmware on that bad boy?
You can if you have a seperate computer with your iTunes set to be on Time Capsule. Your iTunes dir doesn't have to live in ~/Music/iTunes/ it can be Volumes/Time Capsule/iTunes.
ATV should not be able to distuinguish between an iTs file on your HDD and one on the TC
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If you find my Optimus Prime I put in there in 1984 please let me know. Ohhh THAT Time Capsule.
I see apple is sticking true to its "least amount of cables needed in the box" ways.
Good for them!
Considering this is an 802.11n file server, what additional cables do you feel they owe you? They gave all the cables that a competent user would need to set it up.
it's not that big considering what it does
it certainly is a bigger!
It's a me, Mario!
Lying bastard! Your name is JC
Wow, this is actually pretty cool. As stand alone WiFi hard drive? Awesome if you don't have a wireless network- just plain convenient, too, if the speed isn't lacking.
It's a wireless hard drive and a wireless N network base station and have ethernet ports and allows you to attach a printer or other external HD (and share it wireless) via USB. It really has everything.
very cool... cuz if you dont have a wireless network you can now. Its a full blown 802.11N wireless router with a built-in HD, not just NAS.
"it's a bigger than you'd expect."
Why the article 'a' in that sentence =S
Yeah, a bigger what?
I'm running a MAc Lab with a Leopard Host and Tiger Clients. Before I'd even consider getting one of these, I have to have my lab upgraded to Leopard. Problem is, Leopard sucks on a G5 1.8ghz with only 512 ram so it looks like we have to get upgrades for each of the 30 emacs and the host before we can continue.
I'd like to see SSD Time Capsules. Even if they release them right now for $5000 my budget can afford em.
Too bad your budget can't afford more RAM :)
I doubt your processor speed is the problem, probably that mere half gig of RAM. Even my 600mhz G3 iBook had 640mb (maxed out). I switch between a 2GB Mac Pro quad 2.66 (Tiger) at home, and a 2.5GB Power Mac G5 dual 2.0 (Leopard) at work.
I haven't seen a compelling reason to switch to Leopard at home -- just too lazy to do an OS reinstall. However I don't notice much of a performance hit at all on the older machine, so I can't imagine Leopard is noticably slower than Tiger on similar hardware.
It is compatible with Tiger you know...
I'm running a MAc Lab with a Leopard Host and Tiger Clients. Before I'd even consider getting one of these, I have to have my lab upgraded to Leopard. Problem is, Leopard sucks on a G5 1.8ghz with only 512 ram so it looks like we have to get upgrades for each of the 30 emacs and the host before we can continue.
I'd like to see SSD Time Capsules. Even if they release them right now for $5000 my budget can afford em.
you just cant use the fancy TimeMachine compatibility.
You guys still have a lot to learn about taking proper pictures. You're white balance is way off.
what does it matter?
maybe i should buy an imac to go with any time capsule that i buy. that's a good excuse, right?
You still have a lot to learn about writing properly. You're apostrophe is way off.
:)
Apparently you need to learn the proper use of "you're". I believe "your" would be the better choice.
Wow... Sorry, I missed that...
Carry on.
Hurry up with the review!!! If its all good im going out as soon as I get the word to get one!
Seconded. Hurry up on that Review Engadget! I have questions and I'm holding off on a NAS purchase to see this thing will fit the bill for me.
The easier companies make it for end users to do backups, the less dismayed the rest of us are when we get that phone call "my computer isn't working..."
Any Apple Stickers? lol
Yea, not like the thousands of windows stickers on car windows everywhere I turn.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like it only comes with a power cord? That seems pretty weak.
That is it. What else do you need? Most people use Wireless and I have never seen a DSL or Cable Modem that didn't come with an ethernet cable.
What else do you need? You can buy Cat5e cables almost anywhere, hell, my local Shoprite has them.
It is a wireless device... what other cables do you need?
I think its shitty to have something that needs to be connected to a modem and not include the cable. Yes, I have plenty of cables kicking around somewhere, but the average consumer doesn't want to have to go digging around to make a $500 purchase "just work."
@Joe,
The average user will be connecting this to a DSL / Cable modem that is either:
a) New in the box and includes the CAT5
b) Already connected directly to one of their computers via a CAT5 cable.
Moreover, CAT5 is not required for operation of the device. If you are setting it up with no internet uplink, it will still serve its primary function of providing wireless network connectivity with access to a NAS.
I'm all for companies including the necessary cables for operation; but I just can't see a scenario where you'd need a CAT5 cable in the box here.
what if they had a computer that had to use an ethernet cable, and they were just using the one that came with the modem, this takes that away and you would have to purchase another cable or a wireless adapter for that computer to go on the internet
leave the poor guy alone.. all hes askin for is a cheap ass cable with his $500 purchase. It's like wanting that crappy apple remote with the new Mac Pro line. Im dropping more cash than the consumer line people, why do they get a free remote/IR sensor? I guess it could be worse, Apple could supply the Time Capsule with a cable that is too short to do any good... kinda like what they do with their keyboards.
And this is commin from a persona that likes Apple. So don't just low rank me because you think im some Windows fanboy.
Were those photos taken in the same room as the Halo 3 Legendar Edition Unboxing? The floor looks the same.
BTW, I do leave the house occasionally.
bigger than what? Is it the same size as the current Airport extremes? Same size as AppleTV? Same size as an Apple mini? Which footprint can we compare it to.
Check the gallery -- it's a lot bigger the UFO-style Airport Extreme and thicker than a MacBook, but about the same size as standard Belkin Pre-N router.
The Mac Mini and AirPory Extreme Base Station have the exact same footprint. The AppleTV and Time Capsule have the exact same footprint. This info is easy had by a very simple Google search.
I was a little confused by this remark as well--and the fact that they compare its size not with the current generation airport extreme but with the previous generation airport express.
What I would love to know is if you can only back up to Time Capsule using Time Machine? or can you use it like any other external hard drive and just send files to it?
Of course. You'll get full access to it like any other networked drive. The real question is, can you use a network drive attached drive connected to the Time Capsules USB port as a Time Machine drive out-of-the-box?
Can you test to see how it handles TimeMachine recovery if my whole machine has tanked. Can I NetBoot off of it? Also, whats the firmware on that bad boy?
Also, can you tell us if it works as an iTunes server, aka I can stream stuff to my AppleTV from it?
@ Blinkcow
You can if you have a seperate computer with your iTunes set to be on Time Capsule. Your iTunes dir doesn't have to live in ~/Music/iTunes/ it can be Volumes/Time Capsule/iTunes.
ATV should not be able to distuinguish between an iTs file on your HDD and one on the TC
Love the hardwood floors. Oh and the router looks nice too.
ROUTER !? lol..
I know this is a total 'n00b' question, but what is that round thing in the pictures?
It's a 2nd or 3rd generation Airport Basestation.