How much is the average tuition fee in an American University? When I went to university in London I paid £1300 per year, ($2600ish) although I think that's changed to £3000 now ($6000ish).
it's either tuition is > than fees or fees > tuition. Most colleges have the primary. So tuition can be ~35000 for a good school. Be grateful for not living in USA my friend.
I get a kick out of reading about the UK students in the last year or two complaining about top-up fees. My parents paid between 3 and 4 thousand a year for me to go to a private school (poor parents + financial aid), back when the comp fee was around $20K a year. Fast forward 15 years and the comp fee is now $38,500. That's what happened when they switched from a Mac campus with a token PC in each lab, now it's a PC campus with a handful of Macs scattered around.
No offense, but I think we Americans pay more because we get more. In general, aren't US universites better than their European counterparts? This doesn't go to say that a European school cannot outshine an American one, but the inverse is more common.
That doesn't seem to make much sense Hung. How is Oxford ranked below... well... all those it's ranked below? I doubt I'm less employable because I studied in London than in... New Brunswick (no. 43).I don't think a £10,000 difference is due to the 'quality'.
I really don't understand why people send their kids to $35,000 a year schools.
I go to Florida State University for free. And it's a damn good college, number 24 the nation for Accounting (my major) and home to the National High Magnetic Field Laboratory. Florida has a thing called Bright Futures that is funded by the lottery and based off your SAT scores and you high school GPA, they will pay either 75% or 100% of your tuition. The same thing applies to all other state universities (U of F, South Florida, Central Florida, etc.). My dad just laughs at all his friends who are spending $40,000 a year to send their kids out of state for school. I'm getting the same if not better education for free.
My daughter completed four years at FSU last year with help from a Bright Futures scholarship. She's now in grad school at Harvard. Yep, costs more. But she thought it was the best place for her, as was the case with her selection of FSU. I think her acceptance reflects on the ed she got at FSU. Unfortunately, it's gotta be noted that the state's pre-paid tuition program is in deep, deep financial problems right now.
No, I'm pretty sure that those US schools deserve such high rankings. The non-English speaking schools are listed on both the Top 500 and the QS lists. Oxford is probably listed lower because of the numbers. I can't say from experience whether Oxford has better or worse professors than Harvard, Stanford, UChicago, etc, but I can go by a rather objective system. Less than 50 Nobel Laureates have ever been affiliated with Oxford. Chicago, one above, has had over 80. Princeton (4,900 students), two above, has an endowment of $15.8 billion and Oxford (18,400 students) has $12.1 billion (from £6.1 billion).
I could throw out more figures, but I know that the best schools possess more intangible qualities. Note that Chicago is a relatively small school compared to those other big names. Most Americans haven't even heard of UChi, which stands on the merit of its graduate research. That's why I used Princeton for the endowment. If I really wanted to skew facts, I would have used Harvard and Stanford. The former was endowed $34.9 billion and the latter has 135 CURRENT Nobel Laureates; I'm sure Stanford has had over 200 all-time.
I don't mean to be a proud American patriot (although I am), but schools here may have an edge over others.
In terms of pure academics, however, Oxford is up there. QS World University Rankings list Oxford as third, after Harvard and Cambridge (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THES_-_QS_World_University_Rankings).
Regretting my decision to even post, I will concede that many good schools exist outside of the US. But you cannot refute that most of the best schools are found here.
I didn't even notice that you bagged on Rutgers. You may not have heard of Rutgers over in Europe, but it's a good school. Any school in New Jersey is poor in regard to campus life, but that's just because Jersey is the actual poophole of America. Ever heard of guidos (youtube it)?
It's a public school as well, so tuition is lower. But yeah, the price difference doesn't warrant the prestige of the school. It's just a way to weed out the poor in America. The poor get dumber while the rich become more qualified to make money. Nice, huh?
P.S. I just googled U of London. 135,000 students! That's 4 times the size of Rutgers, and I thought Rutgers had an outrageously large student body.
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How much is the average tuition fee in an American University? When I went to university in London I paid £1300 per year, ($2600ish) although I think that's changed to £3000 now ($6000ish).
it's either tuition is > than fees or fees > tuition. Most colleges have the primary. So tuition can be ~35000 for a good school. Be grateful for not living in USA my friend.
I'm really gratefull to live in Belgium then, we pay around €500 a year.
I get a kick out of reading about the UK students in the last year or two complaining about top-up fees. My parents paid between 3 and 4 thousand a year for me to go to a private school (poor parents + financial aid), back when the comp fee was around $20K a year. Fast forward 15 years and the comp fee is now $38,500. That's what happened when they switched from a Mac campus with a token PC in each lab, now it's a PC campus with a handful of Macs scattered around.
No offense, but I think we Americans pay more because we get more. In general, aren't US universites better than their European counterparts? This doesn't go to say that a European school cannot outshine an American one, but the inverse is more common.
http://www.arwu.org/rank/2005/ARWU2005_Top100.htm
NOTE: I have no idea how credible that site is; it was the second thing that popped up in Google.
Hung: not really. Amongst english speaking schools maybe but in general not really
That doesn't seem to make much sense Hung. How is Oxford ranked below... well... all those it's ranked below? I doubt I'm less employable because I studied in London than in... New Brunswick (no. 43).I don't think a £10,000 difference is due to the 'quality'.
I really don't understand why people send their kids to $35,000 a year schools.
I go to Florida State University for free. And it's a damn good college, number 24 the nation for Accounting (my major) and home to the National High Magnetic Field Laboratory. Florida has a thing called Bright Futures that is funded by the lottery and based off your SAT scores and you high school GPA, they will pay either 75% or 100% of your tuition. The same thing applies to all other state universities (U of F, South Florida, Central Florida, etc.). My dad just laughs at all his friends who are spending $40,000 a year to send their kids out of state for school. I'm getting the same if not better education for free.
(following up on Seminole's comments...
My daughter completed four years at FSU last year with help from a Bright Futures scholarship. She's now in grad school at Harvard. Yep, costs more. But she thought it was the best place for her, as was the case with her selection of FSU. I think her acceptance reflects on the ed she got at FSU. Unfortunately, it's gotta be noted that the state's pre-paid tuition program is in deep, deep financial problems right now.
@ Superprime & Raheem
No, I'm pretty sure that those US schools deserve such high rankings. The non-English speaking schools are listed on both the Top 500 and the QS lists. Oxford is probably listed lower because of the numbers. I can't say from experience whether Oxford has better or worse professors than Harvard, Stanford, UChicago, etc, but I can go by a rather objective system. Less than 50 Nobel Laureates have ever been affiliated with Oxford. Chicago, one above, has had over 80. Princeton (4,900 students), two above, has an endowment of $15.8 billion and Oxford (18,400 students) has $12.1 billion (from £6.1 billion).
I could throw out more figures, but I know that the best schools possess more intangible qualities. Note that Chicago is a relatively small school compared to those other big names. Most Americans haven't even heard of UChi, which stands on the merit of its graduate research. That's why I used Princeton for the endowment. If I really wanted to skew facts, I would have used Harvard and Stanford. The former was endowed $34.9 billion and the latter has 135 CURRENT Nobel Laureates; I'm sure Stanford has had over 200 all-time.
I don't mean to be a proud American patriot (although I am), but schools here may have an edge over others.
In terms of pure academics, however, Oxford is up there. QS World University Rankings list Oxford as third, after Harvard and Cambridge (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THES_-_QS_World_University_Rankings).
Regretting my decision to even post, I will concede that many good schools exist outside of the US. But you cannot refute that most of the best schools are found here.
I didn't even notice that you bagged on Rutgers. You may not have heard of Rutgers over in Europe, but it's a good school. Any school in New Jersey is poor in regard to campus life, but that's just because Jersey is the actual poophole of America. Ever heard of guidos (youtube it)?
It's a public school as well, so tuition is lower. But yeah, the price difference doesn't warrant the prestige of the school. It's just a way to weed out the poor in America. The poor get dumber while the rich become more qualified to make money. Nice, huh?
P.S. I just googled U of London. 135,000 students! That's 4 times the size of Rutgers, and I thought Rutgers had an outrageously large student body.