No, in fact one of the research to be performed in this is to create blackholes. But since the majority of people cannot understand the nature of a black hole everyone is going "OMG EARTH BE DISTROEI!11!sqrt(1)"
Blackholes have been created in the past and have this tendency to "evaporate" using radiations (even the big ones in the middle of galaxies, although in this case they receive more matter than they can expunge and, thus, grows). Even if the hole phenomenon is not understood entirely (like, you know, growing up to 7-8 dimensions around it), the "danger" they represent has been fully studied and they are not scared by those who knows what the **** is going on.
There aren't not such think as a "tinniest blackhole", blackhole exist in two sizes:tiny and massive, a "tiny" (a common blackhole) will need the mass of "many" Sol ultra compacted (even more compact that MacBook Apple Air) to start collapsing the gravity (both kind of gravity), and massive blackholes will need a lot more mass.
So, even using all the mass of the solar system (and the mass of all bulky ps3s) then this will not be enough to create a blackhole So CERN IS NOT ABLE TO CREATE BLACKHOLES, they are just bluffing or they achieved a way to create gravity without mass and afaik it is not (yet) possible.
For those who read Kip Thorn's Black Holes and Time Warps, you would know that 'tiny' black holes can _theoretically_ be formed when something-or-other happens (the hypothesis here is that colliding two elementary particles at trillions of eVs will form one).
The concern is that a tiny black hole (around the size of an atom or smaller) would still be able to swallow up the earth, as it were, because as we know, black holes increase in size as more mass falls in.
The evaporating black hole theory was actually postulated by Stephen Hawking (I think), when he realized that in quantum mechanics, particles exist with their antiparticles, and they sort of weave in and out of existence.. when a particle and antiparticle is 'born' near the event horizon, and one falls in while the other escapes, the black hole is essentially 'evaporating' or losing energy. There have actually been observations of black holes emitting X-rays, lending some credence to the evaporating black hole theory.
Of course, that all applies to normal sized black holes, and none of this may apply to tiny black holes, which might come into existence and then evaporate within a billionth of a second or something..
Anyway, read the book... I read it in like 9th grade, so it's been a while, and I might have some of the details wrong. It's really entertaining though (for those of you who like that sort of stuff........ but you're reading engadget anyway, so it might actually appeal to some of the readers here :)
SCREW you ALL! No-one knows ANYTHING about what'll happen because no-one has bl00dy well done it before!!! I'm DAMN sure I heard somewhere that if only a tiny bit if Tachyon leakage in to the nacelles of the CERN, the whole planet will phase in to another dimension or something... And now thanks to this ultra fast network linking up places all over the world, I KNOW that this net-sky computer (I think that's what they're calling it) running the whole thing will utilitse the quantum soup coming out of the device, mix it up at some higer dimension and exterminate all life! Damn pot-smoking scientists with a budget, you’ll be the downfall of us all, mark my words!!!!!!
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Flashpoint @ Apr 7th 2008 10:35AM
This looks like a machine responsible for the prelude to the crisis depicted in Half Life.
Its like a damn stargate.
If it does manage to create a Black hole, we could use that to dump radioactive waste.
Ask1001 @ Apr 7th 2008 10:43AM
Your kidding about the black hole right? RIGHT???? thats bullshit and theres less then .0000001% of it happening. no joke.
Chebwa @ Apr 7th 2008 11:24AM
Ask1001 you are the smartest person I know.
No joke.
tikirob @ Apr 7th 2008 11:24AM
Better yet...maybe something from a Lovecraft story
patsy @ Apr 7th 2008 11:43AM
Actually, that's the RJ45 replacement to plug into The Grid. Better get a bigger house!
Poltras @ Apr 7th 2008 11:55AM
No, in fact one of the research to be performed in this is to create blackholes. But since the majority of people cannot understand the nature of a black hole everyone is going "OMG EARTH BE DISTROEI!11!sqrt(1)"
Blackholes have been created in the past and have this tendency to "evaporate" using radiations (even the big ones in the middle of galaxies, although in this case they receive more matter than they can expunge and, thus, grows). Even if the hole phenomenon is not understood entirely (like, you know, growing up to 7-8 dimensions around it), the "danger" they represent has been fully studied and they are not scared by those who knows what the **** is going on.
Keep the science stuff to the scientists. Please.
Sam @ Apr 7th 2008 12:03PM
I regret that that my first, jaded, thought on seeing that photo was...Goatz...
my brain, it burns :(
Jeff @ Apr 7th 2008 12:26PM
guh.
even if they were able to create a blackhole (unlikely) it would be very small, and contain the same properties of anything else its size.
A tiny black hole has no more earth-ending capacity than a similarly sized mosquito.
you guys are ridiculous.
LongshotX @ Apr 7th 2008 12:33PM
Actually we've already created blackholes: hyper small holes that last trillions of a fraction of a second. It is possible.
Wwhat @ Apr 7th 2008 12:41PM
I just hope they didn't give you some sort of diploma Poltras.
Poltras @ Apr 7th 2008 12:57PM
@Wwhat
I don't know. Are you able to refute my claims? You seem like someone would know much more than me on the matter.
zendriver @ Apr 7th 2008 1:02PM
@Poltras
"You seem like someone would know much more than me on the matter."
Matter! Haha! I see what you did there.
LondonConsultant @ Apr 7th 2008 1:05PM
It's funny when high-energy physics comes up and everyone and their dog suddenly becomes an expert...
Matthew @ Apr 7th 2008 1:31PM
Looks to me like an episode of MST3K is about to start. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
patsy @ Apr 7th 2008 1:46PM
@LondonConsultant:
Well, it's not rocket science.
Magallanes @ Apr 7th 2008 2:28PM
There aren't not such think as a "tinniest blackhole", blackhole exist in two sizes:tiny and massive, a "tiny" (a common blackhole) will need the mass of "many" Sol ultra compacted (even more compact that MacBook Apple Air) to start collapsing the gravity (both kind of gravity), and massive blackholes will need a lot more mass.
So, even using all the mass of the solar system (and the mass of all bulky ps3s) then this will not be enough to create a blackhole So CERN IS NOT ABLE TO CREATE BLACKHOLES, they are just bluffing or they achieved a way to create gravity without mass and afaik it is not (yet) possible.
whowhatme @ Apr 7th 2008 2:50PM
For those who read Kip Thorn's Black Holes and Time Warps, you would know that 'tiny' black holes can _theoretically_ be formed when something-or-other happens (the hypothesis here is that colliding two elementary particles at trillions of eVs will form one).
The concern is that a tiny black hole (around the size of an atom or smaller) would still be able to swallow up the earth, as it were, because as we know, black holes increase in size as more mass falls in.
The evaporating black hole theory was actually postulated by Stephen Hawking (I think), when he realized that in quantum mechanics, particles exist with their antiparticles, and they sort of weave in and out of existence.. when a particle and antiparticle is 'born' near the event horizon, and one falls in while the other escapes, the black hole is essentially 'evaporating' or losing energy. There have actually been observations of black holes emitting X-rays, lending some credence to the evaporating black hole theory.
Of course, that all applies to normal sized black holes, and none of this may apply to tiny black holes, which might come into existence and then evaporate within a billionth of a second or something..
Anyway, read the book... I read it in like 9th grade, so it's been a while, and I might have some of the details wrong. It's really entertaining though (for those of you who like that sort of stuff........ but you're reading engadget anyway, so it might actually appeal to some of the readers here :)
Tony @ Apr 8th 2008 7:44AM
SCREW you ALL! No-one knows ANYTHING about what'll happen because no-one has bl00dy well done it before!!!
I'm DAMN sure I heard somewhere that if only a tiny bit if Tachyon leakage in to the nacelles of the CERN, the whole planet will phase in to another dimension or something... And now thanks to this ultra fast network linking up places all over the world, I KNOW that this net-sky computer (I think that's what they're calling it) running the whole thing will utilitse the quantum soup coming out of the device, mix it up at some higer dimension and exterminate all life!
Damn pot-smoking scientists with a budget, you’ll be the downfall of us all, mark my words!!!!!!