RED just unleashed its
promised Scarlet "pocket professional" camera at NAB 2008, and it's certainly a sight to see. The teensy 3K resolution camcorder is based on a 2 / 3-inch Mysterium X sensor, can shoot at 1 to 120 FPS and records to dual CompactFlash cards, which can handle up to 100MB per second of REDCODE RAW HD video. You can preview your shot on the 4.8-inch LCD, and there's a 8x RED zoom lens included. HMDI, HD-SDI, FireWire 800 and USB 2.0 inputs are built in, and the device is compatible with "many" RED ONE accessories. WiFi control is also included. In typical RED fashion, the only promises about the final product is that "specifications, delivery dates and design are subject to change... count on it," but this is certainly a good start. No pre-orders are being accepted at this time, but the price is purportedly to going to be a bit under $3,000, and the release is slated for early 2009.
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posted Apr 14th 2008 12:43PM
But what resolusion?
3k
REDCODE RAW HD. Up to 4096×2304. Google is your friend.
man engadget your reply system sucks
and it's resolution @Nutsy, and 4K @KR and Andrew beat me to it
@Alex:
According to Red's site, the Scarlet is 3K. Take it up with them.
ya sorry i assumed it was the same as the red one's resolution, I stand corrected
One million dollars!!! Muahahahaha
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grape juice PIPING HOT! haha this is perfect for those american families with too much mooney at an 8 year olds birthday party.
At 2/3s of an inch of a sensor means HUGE BACKGROUND BLUR!!! No need for 35mm adapters anymore for most people who just want some basic depth of field! I am getting one 100% if the price is indeed $3000. RED is kicking Panasonic's, Canon's and Sony's a$$ here, very seriously, at least in the indie filmmaker's world.
Hi Eugenia (I know you from the HV20 forums). I agree with you, this is HUGE! This little Scarlett shoots raw footage beyond HD (3k) that closely approximates the quality and resolution of 35 mm film, for $3000.
As Colbert would say: Sony, Panasonic, Canon... you are on notice!
:)
Euginia if that's you in that picture I think I just found my soul mate.
But they don't mention the lens' f-stop range. For the same f-stop, the lenses for bigger sensors will be much bigger for the same field of view (longer focal length needed). If they skimp on the lens and make it a slower one, your DOF advantage (and a presumed low-light advantage) will be gone, and you could have a just-as-good thing, or a bit worse, depending on how slower they make the lens.
expensive and the zoom isnt much
For what it offers, it is not expensive at all. And you don't need more than 8x zoom for the included lens. I mean, this is not a camera that you go and shoot birds or your grandmother and her dog. That's a filmmaker's camera.
Are you kidding?
Looked at rental prices recently for pro digital film gear?
This thing's gonna put the rental places out of business for indies.
hah...you obviously do not know what you are talking about. Try and stay in focus on 3k is a nightmare. This is pros only man. Plus you're gonna need some lenses to go with the body which may rise the price to let's say...$10000 for a start (and thats a crap lens)
Sony ain't that bad man
It comes with it's own lens.
I'm pretty sure I saw Spike Lee using one of these during the Lakers broadcast yesterday. Didn't know what it was, but here it is.
Nope, Lee was shooting with a small Panasonic.
@Engadget: you need to put more space between the text and the photo - can't you see it's all squashed up?
looks fine in Safari (Mac)
Maybe you're looking at another photo, as they just changed it and added a padding space at the bottom. The problems remains on all the other posts though; guess they're working on it.
I'm starting to save for it RIGHT NOW.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the end of film.
This little monster shoots 3k resolution in raw format, and costs less than $3000. Insane. I'm sure indie filmmakers all over are taking notes.
Taking notes?
More like recovering from slight head trauma as my head assploded and fell against my desk. /slight exaggeration
Honestly, this could be the dream camera I've been wishing for oh so very long. At the sub $3k pricepoint (or even if it's at or slightly above) I'm definitely stoked for this monster.
I have plenty of ideas/scenes that are just begging to be shot with one of these now.
This post is great and belongs here, but the other camcorders on the blog today like Sony & Panasonic shouldn't be here, there is nothing special about them. Please do not make the shameless advertising plugs, you must make enough money withouth them. Since when is a full video camcorder a gadget?
They are new technology, thus belong on this blog. Not everything must conform to your liking to be written to this blog.
New high res fugly in quasi industrial taser stylings for spendy mcgoofballs.
So many of these Sanyo Xacti knockoffs popping up this spring, it's wild.
Sorry, but the Xacti can't even compare to this little monster. To start, the Scarlett is a professional tool, not a consumer camcorder. It shoots raw 3k resolution (beyond HD), while the Xacti shoots highly compressed AVCHD 720p. Literally, the Scarlett has 4 times the rez of the Xacti, and produces uncompressed footage with a professional chip.
Form factor. BTW the Xacti does more than 720p @60fps, 1080i, and others. But I see you're red in the face and mind so I'll let you return to your pseudo indie fantasy. Cheers.
Tell me how you can even compare 720p (1080i) to 3k resolution? I don't understand how you can even put the Sanyo and the Red in the same category. The sanyo is made for my mom to shoot birthday parties, the Red is made for budget oriented film makers and compositors. The artifacts in the crappy Sanyo would be so hideous to work with in post production I would want to shoot myself.
Comparing this new RED camera to the Xacti is the most clueless comment on this thread. The Xacti image quality is not even up to that of most consumer HDV cameras (that's image QUALITY, not specs on the box). The new RED offering will probably blow away all sub-$25K pro cameras in specs & image quality.
You team red kids are way overly sensitive (your product will be antiquated before it is realized). As was said before, the form factor is not unlike the Xacti nor is its flash. The initial "new high res" fugly in quasi industrial taser stylings for spendy mcgoofballs covered your tacky redundant "3k lil'monster" adspeak.
Red, scarlett, cookie-refresh-self-rank-dolts.
Funny yes.
@everyone
Don't feed this stupid troll. Obviously he is entirely clueless and just trying to make waves..
@required
How about never posting your driveling nonsense on engadget again?
i want
also, you think a macbook air has trouble at airport security...
Are you sure those HMDI, HD-SDI, FireWire 800 and USB 2.0 ports are inputs? Seems like the only input a camera would need would be the lens. Might those ports be outputs?
It's also HDMI not HMDI :P
Jim Jannard is a marketing genius.
I'm not even saying the products aren't good or anything. Just that he manages to get a lot of mileage from things that other companies couldn't even get away with. Cheeky product names (red ray!), waffling on specs, high prices.
I wouldn't call it waffling, they've been very open about the fact that early specs are just goals and may not match the final product. And it's very hard to compare them on price since they're targeted at much higher end cameras than pro-sumer DV.
Highprices? Are you a fucking moron? Do you have ANY experience at all with high-end cams? Yeah, I thought so...
"You can preview your shot on the 4.8-inch LCD"
*4.8 LCD not included
but hey what do you expect for $3k?
This is still outstanding.
One thing some of you should not is that unlike the Red ONE and EPIC, this one doesn't look like it has on board audio. Not bad for those of us used to working on projects where sound is recorded separately anyway, but something to keep in mind in terms of additional package cost if you were hoping to have audio, too.
I could be wrong, just not seeing the ports for it.
That said, I want one.
I'm going to keep my thoughts about this brief...
WANT!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone know what the dynamic range of this is?
No. Specs are subject to change and it's not due for a year at least. They're just announcing that it's coming to get the masses salivating at it's potential wonder. It's working.
I'm a big fan of RED, but I don't think a 2/3 sensor is going to give you "huge background blur" depth-of-field, Eugenia. Sure, it's better than the 1/3 CCDs in the "pocket-sized" cameras out there today; it puts the image quality on par with the Panasonics/Canons/Sonys that are $4K-8K, i.e "pro" bigger cameras...but even those don't really have much DOF.
It really takes the 35mm-sized sensor and a lens to get the depth-of-field that you want and that rivals film. I just don't think a 2/3" sensor is going to cut it.
(That said, the scarlet still looks pretty amazing, spec-wise, if it is less than $3K and that small. (Though very hard to tell the ergonomics/size from the proto-design.) The 3K and the Red "raw" capture, etc. is all worth a lot in my book for quality imagery. I was just hoping it would target the 35mm-lens-adapter crowd and really give us the deep DOF. There'd have to be something more magical that a 2/3" sensor spec to do that, in my mind. The existing 2/3" pro cameras out there just don't come close without a lens adapter and a true 35mm lens.)
I'd have to beg to differ. I've seen a lot of footage shot on 2/3" CCDs and it *definately* makes a huge difference over the 1/3" chips that make up the consumer and prosumer markets. Yes, a 2/3" chip will not give you 35mm DOF, but it *will* give you almost exactly the same as 16mm, which I'm guessing is exactly the target market for this camera. I.e:
EPIC = IMAX
Red = S35
Scarlet = 16mm
Along with the accompanying userbases for each of those.
(Yes, I realize that the EPIC 5K sensor still does not have nearly the detail of 70mm film, but it's an interesting comparison anyway.)
I saw the body mock up at NAB. It's larger than it looks. Far from fitting in any POCKET. And it's just a 3D print of it, so the buttons and what not are just an idea of what it will be like. Also no one knew (or would say) anything spec wise other than what's on the web site.
Having said that I'd drop 3 grand on it in a new york minute. I wish it was out now. I've been eyeing the new Sony but 6 grand is a bit much. Not sure what I'm going to do for a camera while I wait for the Scarlet.
Also.. Since red is taking back Red One's in trade for Epic's, I wonder if they'll sell the used One's at a bargain.
Edge man see its 3k...u shoot 3k raw....and downscale it to 2k prospective for edit...and when u broadcast it on normal tv its again downsized to 750 man.... so imagine how much noise would have gone by then out of your picture.....the more the pixels get closer and contracted the better the picture looks..... and seriously with 2K u can put tht on theatres.
the post production these days is so high flying guys....that it can make even DigiBeta look amazing only the very pros can tell yeah its DigiBeta.... so imagine Cameras like Red, Scarlet could kill it...i say u're talking abt 16mm man it will overcome 35.... if the image gives you photographic feell....wht else u need....cuz thts the thing with 35mm photo graphic output rite...so i just wish to see ths camera and use it before i die....its worth giving it a short rather thn investing around 200K for sony CIne HD camera... so 3k its quite affordable for serious spenders on equipment and u can get a pretty decent idea just buy shooting with the stock specs of ths camera...if results shut your moth ipen thn its more worth spending on its assecories and get a kick as edit suite...
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Anima’07 Animation Festival (Cordoba, Argentina), Sitges’07 International Film Festival (Spain), Zinebi Film Festival (Bilbao, Spain), Molodist IFF (Kiev, Ukraine), Cinanima Animation Festival (Espinho, Portugal), Animateka Animation Festival (Ljubljana, Slovenia), “Alter-Native” (Romania), Flip Animation Festival (UK), International Trickfilm Festival of Animated Films (Stuttgart, Germany), Roma Independent Film Festival (Rome, Italy), Annecy’08 (Annecy, France), 5th Naoussa International Short Film and Video Festival (Naoussa, Greece)
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I only have one issue, the release date! Bring sooner please!
3K? 'Ken Oath Im buying one.
This camera is going to be amazing. I really think it can rock the indie filmmaking world. Actually did a writeup on that over at www.borderlinetheory.com
i need clean pants.
and 3,000 dollars
Awesome. But 2xCF? You won't be shooting for very long with that at the highest setting... though you couldn't with film either, AFAIK. And I think a bigger sensor with lower resolution (or the same, of course) would be cooler.
Looks great. Spec great. Price great.
I'll wait for the hardware before commenting further!
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Eugenia and other geniuses who seem to know so much about cameras, how can Scarlet kick..SONY's ass, when Red is made by ..Sony? pay attention, 'geniuses'!
I am equally excited about this camera, for its price it would not be much of an overstatement to say that it will destroy the bridge between the quality footage indie film-makers may be able to access and that of the Hollywood Directors. Of course its how the camera is used but still.....if you have big ideas then cameras like this can really help.
To put a damper on things, it seems the company red sells the bare minimum (ie Camera body, cables and case etc.) so we may be "forced" to buy the accessories.
Does anyone know which accessories do NOT come with the camera? Or does nobody know until RED releases the camera?
I was almost going to buy a Cannon XL2 the other day...I decided not too because I know I will regret it when the scarlet comes out. So if you can hold-on guys just wait till this slick machine comes out and then make a decision.
Man i can't wait for 35mms to be in the store just like we put our Analoge Audio Recording machines.... i so want ths camera don't even need to demo it....if not like 35 or 16 if its giving me better resolution thn HD or Digi Beta..... then styll its worth buying even at 5000$.....even if its a bit lesser then HDs thn styll its worth buying it....cuz look at GOD DAMN PRICEEEEEE...... RED is seriously in business I think RED loves indie film makerz...thanx RED....i'm not an indie film maker i'm a music producer and artist management compnay owner...and ihave to spend fortunes in making videos for the artist..on 35 and 16...... and for those who thinks zoom in is less bla bla bla....man rent lenses man... and comeon use tracks and gadgets to move into the object have some relatistic move rather thn zoom in.....and out..... and think abt the resolution....its 3k...u shoot 3k raw....and downscale it to 2k prospective for edit...and when u broadcast it on normal tv its again downsized to 750 man.... so imagine how much noise would have gone by then out of your picture.....the more the pixels get closer and contracted the better the picture looks..... and seriously with 2K u can put tht on theatres...i say we have the monopoly in breaking from big film makers now.....those who impress only with hi fi visual fx can now see wht indie film makers can do...a good movie just needs a good script and acts man thts it....
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Its incredible... i thought that they would unleash this little beat on 2010.
this is defenetly a breakthrough to the industry and especially in-filmakers like miself. i have a sony camcorder cause that was what i could afford.
defenetly iam having one of those.
the audio could mean another 2 gees.