PlayStation Home beta adding more users this Fall -- in other words, delayed
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Apr 22nd 2008 1:48AM
posted Apr 22nd 2008 1:48AM
After hitting delays already, we can't say that this was the PlayStation Home press release we've been expecting. Nevertheless, Sony just announced that it is expanding the closed PlayStation Home beta to more users in "Fall 2008." Kazuo Hirai, prez and ringmaster of Sony Computer Entertainment, said, "We understand that we are asking PS3 and prospective PS3 users to wait a bit longer, but we have come to the conclusion that we need more time to refine the service." Come on Mr Hirai, you can say it, PlayStation Home is delayed. See, that's wasn't so hard.
another reason to buy an xbox 360
I have a 360 and not a PS3
You're still annoying
LOW RANK FOR YOU!
@matt
"Wow, you're really cool"
'nuff said
Great....
Now my comment above is obsolete!
I'm very happy with the PS3
If its one thing Sony does is get things right, even if it means constant delays
The only thing I care about is a perfect product in the end... So as sad as this news is, atleast I know its for the better
Also... We have some really good games to keep us busy guys... GTA4, MGS4, Haze... We'll be so distracted playing these absolute amazing games we'll not worry about Home, then itll get here, and we'll love it
The PS3 will have an amazing online community with Home
The 360 has XBLive, a truly remarkable online gaming network
We all win guys, now lets hope game developers dont tone down our 360/PS3 game graphics so they can put the game on the Wii, I love my Wii, but please keep the Wii and 360/PS3 games seperate thank you!
Even though it says low ranked, i will always remember you as the lowest ranked person ever on engadget.
You will end up buying a PS3 in the end, That's if you don't have one already. You know it, I know it, and every other PS3 owner knows it.
at least ps3 is getting something and xbox isn't....
MGO beta delayed till friday and now this !! Bastards T_T
.. atleast COD4 map pack is comming out
i'd be careful not to jinx it, it might get delayyed also. Sony pisses me off. My PSN got havked and they BAN me from the forums in the same week. got my money back fromt he person who hacked my pc playstation store account, they got banned for life. Sony does do some things right but the main thing is still lacking. I've been watching and reading about home since 2004. Get with the program Sony, we don't car if its not perfect. So the grass will be choppy and other such small things. Who cares? Most of the ps3 owners out there don't! Just give it to us already.
WE ARE TIRED OF WAITING!
I just want the chance to flex my e-penis. Seems like it's may still be a way off.
Well, time for more PS3 bashing from the guys here.
Wow... Hypocrisy if ever there was any.
I love how people bitch and moan about "PS3 bashing" or "360 bashing" when they know they do the same damn thing.
If you guys don't like "bashing" then don't "bash" others.
I'd really like to see some more dingy-type environments in this, I think they'd help more to actually get people talking, it seems like the office party right now. ANd as for the delays, we all know adding rumble is hard.
So how does one try to get into the Home beta?
i think you go to http://www.homebetatrial.com/ and wait until it lets you register, i think.
i worded that wrong, keep checking until it lets u register.
I don't know why they didn't just put an SL client on there, it would have saved them the pain of building a sim (well, they technically could still build their own sim on SL)... but if Home is just like SL (except a few Sony exclusives, of course) then they might as well have just put SL on the PS3, right?
It's probably unique in its own way, but that's my opinion.
Just install linux and use the linux SL client.
Does anyone actually think this is a good idea?
I do...innovation is always good...Home is a answer to achievements on the 360...if home succeeds I'd love to see what steps Microsoft takes to answer...
All that Home brings could be done with 2D menus. Question asked; Do I really want to spent 15 minutes walking a simulated world to see the latest trailer for a game, or would I prefer one click on a menu to enjoy it? I think I'll pick the later option.
Same goes for displaying my achievements, rather list them in one menu as put them on display in a 3D world, where I need to walk around a house to see all.
Just doesn't make much sense to me. But maybe I'm a minority.
I don't, I think its a waste of time.
Its going to be one of those things you use once in a blue moon.
I like the features being added but the Sims aspect of if it is just freaking lame.
As a mature (23) gamer I don't have time to be wasting, decorating some wall or room inside a wannabe Sims. I'm in school and working part time. I have time for my games, period. Give me access to all the features and cut this sims crap.
If they would have focused on just the features they would have been done by now.
I love the idea of home and the examples they've given for game integration have been very nice. As for walking 15 minutes to get to a trailer? thats just silly. You'd have a TV in your home that would show stuff like that, and maybe a teleporter pad reminiscent of star trek to visit others homes and check out what they did with the place.
I used to think it was. hen I realised it was just a glorified version of The Sims using up vital space on your hard drive.
I don't get the arguments over the 360's 'lack of space'. I've had my 360 since about a month after it came out and only ever got it down to 9GB left. That was because I downloaded demos and couldn't figure out where they were saved so I couldn't delete them. I'm back up to 11.7GB free now.
Booo!
No PlayTV for US and now this? Wasn't PSHome originally supposed to come out in fall '07? Weak sauce Sony.... Weak sauce...
At first I was sad and now I'm just disappointed... why keep telling us any news if its all to the same tune... Delays=Fail
SHAME.
Who cares, how about a SL clone on the 360... the console that people actually use.
more than 85% of the people here are 360 fanboys -- in other words, PS3 haters.
this theory also applies to 360 articles.
I own both systems and an dissapointed as well and will jump in with the bashing. The 360 has only had updates to make things that were already there run smoother. The PS3 comes out a year later and needs updates to get things functional such as the PS store finally being browsable.
My dude you are on an "Appleish" loving site. MS is the company that consitantly gets bashed the most.
The fact is that Sony developers have been wasting time implementing some "Sims" crap when they could have just gave us the features. If they would have focused on just the features they would have been done by now.
P.S.You aren't going to get positive reactions from a negative report. (you might get a few but not many)
Uh, no. In 360 topics, comments consist mostly of PS3 fantards trying to "bash" RRoD with stupid comments, and in PS3 topics, comments consist mostly of 360 fantards making fun of the PS3 not having any games.
Its a two way street- don't be so ignorant.
Fracking Developers!!! Somebody has been watching too much of Battlestar Galactica, I see.
yes.
I am so sick of people (x-box 360 fanboys) making comments about how the 360 is way better and "more people actually use it." The 360 came out earlier and was actually just a x-box 1.5. nothing really next-gen about it. Where's the HD graphics, oh wait you have to pay extra for that, and they didn't even utilize the $100 HD-DVD drive that is completely obsolete now. Why do you have to pay $100 for wireless capabilities and get a puny hard-drive? After all is said and done Sony doesn't have a 16% failure rate on there console and is actually next gen. Would you rather have a buggy HOME or a one that is near perfect on release? I can wait...
I agree, you do have to pay for HD graphics if you have a 360....
In the form of a HI DEF TV!!!
How the hell can you put down fanboys when you are clearly one yourself, after calling the 360 the xbox 1.5.
Actually the tv doesn't really do a damn thing if the output from the device is not good enough. I like the 360 but I don't agree with how microsoft markets their products. How many types of vistas can you buy? I am okay with having a cheap x-box or ps3 but why should you have to buy the wireless adapter or sacrifice having wired controllers? they are cheaper but not next-gen. it all adds up more to what the ps3 40gb costs when you think about it, right? 1.5 means that they only got it half right, and I think they had released it in tandem with the ps3 and spent more time developing it, it probably would have been better graphics. NOT A FANBOY just devil's advocate so no hate
1.) I agree with you regarding the wireless adaptor, it really should be built in.
2.) I still don't understand this talk about the output from the device not being good enough. It can run 1080p even from composite and the newer models have HDMI adaptors. Are you telling me that you can tell the difference between 1080p composite and 1080p HDMI, and if you can, is it such a horrendous difference that it warrants not buying the console for people?
3.) I don't get the wired controller comment that you made. You have a choice to buy it wired (cheaper) or wireless (more expensive). Whats wrong with that? It's choice. I for one am pissed at how much Nintendo are ripping consumers off with their wiimote/nunchuck prices, but thats another story.
4.) Had they released it in tandem with the PS3, Microsoft would have not been in the position they are in now, even with an improved product. Sony's brand perception and imaging in the minds of the AVERAGE consumer (i.e non-engadget readers) was phenomenal, and the 360 would not have performed as well without the 1 year head start.
5.) Just want to finish on my own point; Had the 360 included a HD DVD drive, then the format wars would have been totally different, and ther would have been a very good chance of blu ray failing, due to a years head start by the 360. However this would have mean delaying the 360; refer to point 4.
No, it's not that it can't output 1080p, it's just that it's upscaled 720p and 1080i/p. Very few 360 games actually run native at those resolutions, and if you're a total fanboy/stare too long at the Gametrailer videos, you'll see that the 360 is worse.
---I think that's what he's saying.
I'm not going to lie and say what I'm about to say is correct, because my knowledge of this isn't 100% BUT:
I swear 360 games run natively at 720p/1080i. I'm so SURE they do. I mean.. they do.
If I'm wrong (which I really don't think I am without trying to sound arrogant), can someone who 100% knows state here?
I don't think there are any Xbox 360 or PS3 games that are native at 1080p- they're all upscaled from lower resolutions.
However, the 360 does have 1080p support and has for a long time now (before the PS3 launched), just no native 1080p, as with the PS3.
there are several games that run natively at 1080p on the PS3, so far 26 titles are available at native 1080p, not upscaled.
How is it that Sony manages to misinform so many followers?
The 360 has consistently had better graphics than the PS3 in multiplatform titles, especially titles that have a simultaneous release.
The 360 has a few games that render at 1080p, on multiplats, they are the same games that render at 1080p on the PS3.
The 360 has scaler hardware that allows the 360 output to match your TVs output no matter what the game resolution is. The PS3 has no such hardware and many PS3 owners have complaints of degraded imaged quality because of it.
As for wireless. Any $30 wireless bridge can be used with the 360's ethernet port. that $100 arguement is fail.
The big thing I'm waiting for on PS3 is LittleBigPlanet. Any fellow PSjunkies got any news on our little scroller game? Supposedly it's coming out in May.
from what i hear its not coming out until september 2nd, it got pushed back too. but it's going to be amazing when it comes out.
LOL. He revised the article and changed the picture.
god damn this pisses me of! how many damn times are they going to delay Home? If Sony doesn't know when it's coming out why do't they just say that instead of keep delaying it every 6 months. I'm losing lots o hope in Home.
do they not realise that they make customers angry when they keep annoucing delays on the same product time after time?
does announcing the fact its coming (whenever) balance out the fact its delayed? i'm sure sony is getting some kinda of marketting advice on this matter,
some marketting ploy has made sony make promises which it keeps breaking in order to maintain the pull of the crowd, where does this balance break? who decides what to announce to the people?
they know from day one that PS Home wont be released till 2009, but they keep announcing so people will purchase PS3 in a hope for these functions, then they maintain their 6 month delays routine to further their false commitments and ensure more people by the ps3 on that false commitment.
this is road is nothing new for sony... if only the competition was up to scratch :-|
I own a ps3 and it kinda sux but Home seems like a 2nd life ripoff anyway.
How can you be ripped-off with something free? You don't really know what you want do you?
@ayle
Read his post again. He said Home seems like a rip off of 2nd Life. Not a rip off to the consumer.
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhat?
First I was addicted to the sims, then I was addicted to the sims 2, now I'm addicted to SL... the longer they delay this, the better.
Though it seems like an SL clone minus the ability for user created content... so, I guess that would be a Sims 2 Online game.
Kazuo Hirai, YOU SUCK!!!!
The PS3 will let you play one real game with the great Six Axis feature. How much are those new rumble pack controllers?(most games have only gimmick features)
ROD fix free - new rumble controllers (60-80 dollars?)
PS3 Home will let you do every thing that X BOX live does but with Sims. This story was about a BETA delay, BETA. How long will we now have to wait for the FULL VERSION?
What are we putting on those big Hard Drives Sony put in the PS3?
CG I demos that they claimed to be actual game play.(Is that game even coming out - what was it called?)
The cell processor will be 9 times better then the 360's.(The PS3 is like a Super Car with cheap tires. The have a big engine but no way of transferring that power into true performance.)
Wireless? most gamers are going to hardwire there system to the internet.
Blue Ray is what killed(stalled) the PS3. From the start of the PSONE, Sony looked at games as a niche market. It took off and carried not only the company but the industry into the future. Sony's game division for a time was the only Sony division that was making a true profit. Fast forward to the future Sony saw in opportunity to advance a new media format (Blue Ray). They planned on advancing this format on the back of their successful game division. How many different media formats has Sony pushed and seen fail? (MD, UMD, Memory Stick)
When Sony speaks it just sounds like lies and spin to me. It feels as they are just treading water to keep thier Blue Ray out front in center. Blue Ray is Sony's main goal, not games. The PS2's DVD feature was an extra to a great gaming system, while Blue Ray is the PS3's main feature on a not so great gaming system.
How many more years are we going to have to hear how great the SONY PS3 is going to be?
Thats all Sony has said since PS3 came out.
We WILL have this, we WILL have that. Screw WILL. What do you have now ?
Sony's constantly making noise about great features they are implementing in firmware updates, yet most features they have added have been on the competition's system from day ONE !. And they still haven't added, good messaging and music playing (while playing a game).
As far as features go Xbox has delivered on usable features. Sony is yet to do so.
The PS3 will let you play one real game with the great Six Axis feature. How much are those new rumble pack controllers?(most games have only gimmick features)
ROD fix free - new rumble controllers (60-80 dollars?)
----How do you compare fixing a broken console to buying a new controller? How much are Xbox360 controllers? Better yet, how long does an Xbox360 last before it breaks?
What are we putting on those big Hard Drives Sony put in the PS3?
CG I demos that they claimed to be actual game play.(Is that game even coming out - what was it called?)
----The hardrives allow for music, movies, pictures, games, and game cache to help games load much faster and seamlessly. I guess you are talking about Killzone 2 which was shown in playable form at the last E3. Every media person that saw it says that it lives up to the CGI video that you speak of.
The cell processor will be 9 times better then the 360's.(The PS3 is like a Super Car with cheap tires. The have a big engine but no way of transferring that power into true performance.)
----Any hard data to back that up?
Wireless? most gamers are going to hardwire there system to the internet.
----Almost everyone I know with a PS3 uses wireless. Most people don't have their internet connection in their family room right next to their TV.
Blue Ray is what killed(stalled) the PS3. From the start of the PSONE, Sony looked at games as a niche market. It took off and carried not only the company but the industry into the future. Sony's game division for a time was the only Sony division that was making a true profit. Fast forward to the future Sony saw in opportunity to advance a new media format (Blue Ray). They planned on advancing this format on the back of their successful game division. How many different media formats has Sony pushed and seen fail? (MD, UMD, Memory Stick)
----That is all speculation and opinion. It's Blu-ray, not Blue Ray. Since the demise of HD-DVD, PS3 sales have sky rocketed because of Blu-ray and the new games that are coming out for PS3. Memory stick isn't a failed format. It sales great because of its use in Sony cameras and PSPs.
When Sony speaks it just sounds like lies and spin to me. It feels as they are just treading water to keep thier Blue Ray out front in center. Blue Ray is Sony's main goal, not games. The PS2's DVD feature was an extra to a great gaming system, while Blue Ray is the PS3's main feature on a not so great gaming system.
----If games aren't Sony's main goal, then why is the number of personel in Sony Computer Entertainment (game developers for Sony) greater then the number for Nintendo and Microsoft combined? Why is it that when they advertise the PS3 they mention all the games first and only briefly say what else you can do with it?
How many more years are we going to have to hear how great the SONY PS3 is going to be?
----How many years will your Xbox360 stay working after the extended warrenty has expired?
knowitall, thats a pretty worthless argument...
The PS3 is not all that powerful and not what Sony claims it to be. The Cell is a gimick. You can see it struggling in games already, especially with it's single core.
Give up, you're not fooling anyone.
Knowitall I agree with SOME of your points, but not all. Below are some of my disagreements with what you are saying.
1.) The RROD problem is much lower in all new 360 consoles. That dead horse was beaten long ago, decomposed by flies and is now forming future fossil fuel. Please stop using it.
2.) Seamless load times on the PS3? Sure, if you look a Devil May Cry, Ps3 users had to download a 20 minute patch to achieve load times a few seconds quicker than the 360 (where no patch was required)
3.) Cell processor: Comparing both consoles, the 360 actually comes out on top in some aspects. Sure the cell architecture is powerfull, but also far more COMPLICATED. There are many many developers who have complained about how much harder the PS3 is to develop games for than the 360.
The reason GTA 4 was delayed was due to the fact that the PS3 version was not yet finished whilst the 360 one was. Sony are VERY lucky that Rockstar waited for a dual launch. Can you imagine if they did not?
4.) Your telling me Sony don't spin things? Here are two of their best examples of 'not spinning things:
(i) Ken Kutaragi: 'Rumble is a last gen feature'
(ii) The Playstation 2 games will have TOY STORY GRAPHICS
As to your closing comments about how long a 360 console will last for, please refer to point 1.)
Thinking before posting (Assuming you are not a fanboy in which case there will be no difference made) is always a good skill to have.
Grow up.
One day you will, Zeus, one day you will...
To all the people that bitch about delays:
This is why you buy an item based on what IS available and not what WILL BE available.
If any given product does not CURRENTLY offer enough to make its purchase worth your while.....WAIT!
If it does.....you have nothing to bitch about.
If the product doesn't currently offer enough to you and you buy it anyway.....bitch at yourself and save us all the annoyance.
AMEN!
Hallelujah !
Unfortunately Sony started out by selling and advertising units based on what would be available, not what was available at launch or would be soon after.
Most of their original sales pitch was based around products that still haven't appeared. Remember Africa?
If everyone had waited for everything that was promised at launch events and trade shows, Sony would have sold about 20 units.
Or the market would adjust and console makers would be forced to offer more at launch.
The fact remains. If you buy a product that does not currently offer you what you want, you have no one to blame but yourself.
This is why I don't own a PS3 or iPhone.....................yet.
So does that mean you won't be buying a PS3 until Fall 2009 when Home is released?
Or are you waiting for in game XMB?
I'll be waiting for the one thing that interests me.
FF13. Then and only then will I consider purchasing a PS3. To be fair, I don't have an Xbox either. I'm almost exclusively an MMO player.
That's pretty moot though. My advice was pretty generic and wasn't aimed exclusively at the console market.
For example. I own an iPod Touch. I spent my money on the product I wanted and am pleased with it. Therefore, I am in no way upset by the prospect of having to pay an extra charge for the upcoming new firmware. What I have now was enough to warrent my purchase.
someone needs to board up the windows and declare this home condemned.
Let's get to work on those interactive holograms they used in Minority Report, for the PS3. It will take less time.
Come on sony wtf stop pissing of your fan base we are just waiting you
too release home don't even give dates if their not true..
First off, to address you gay ass flamers who get on blogs about PS3s - Growup and stop being a hater. You bought what you wanted, right? Not everyone wants to be like ur little dorky ass and make the same decisions you've made. Stop sucking so much penis, ok, you fruit baskets?
Ok, now, ahem - I am a little upset with this delay. This is possibly the longest delay I've seen (don't quote me, don't remember all delays to ever happen to any thing). I usually applaud a delay when it's up to a year because I understand that it's best to try to improve on something if you feel it's not up to snuff but now, this is getting crazy, YET, I will ride with Sony on this.
Such an ambitious project is probably very buggy and the fact that Sony has been ambitious with the PS3 from the beginning is why I chose a PS3 over a 360. Microsoft was shortsighted, in my eyes, even rushing those crappy systems that red ring on folks left and right. My boy's boy has had SEVERAL systems, already. That is terrible, Limited Minded Microsoft, but I digress. That's a whole nuva story.
I will give u another pass, Sony, cuz I see ur vision and support it.
They should of called it the Sony Dreamcast. Because all Sony keeps giving us is hopes and dreams. Yea if Sony keeps on getting these types of passes will be buying the XBOX 3 and the Wii x2 soon. Maybe Sony will just dump the system and shoot for the PS4 now that they won the big format war. I'm sure they could make it backwards compatible.
This is not good for sony a lot of people are going to be pissed about this
because sony gives dates and then keeps on delaying the service unlike
xbl and their marketplace it released on date.Sony please get it together
you have an amazing system but poor management and execution of
services except for blu ray win.
This really sucks but I have to admit I'm not surprised. I love my PS3 but I have gotten used to Sony's promises taking way longer to be realized. Home has a lot of potential but it needs to be good right from launch or critics will tear it apart. Hopefully they will get it right.
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Maybe it has been said before but the title is wrong. Nowhere in the SCEE official state does it say that there will be more users added to the closed beta in the fall. It say..
it will expand the Closed Beta testing for PLAYSTATION®Home in Summer 2008, inviting a further number of registrants from the PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3®) users. Following completion of the Expanded Closed Beta test, the PLAYSTATION Home Open Beta service will commence in Fall 2008.
In other words first there will be more users added during the summer (hopefully) and and after closed beta has been finished with the expanded userbase open beta will start. The title just adds more confusion
It was suppose to be out already. Then Sony said spring 2008. Not beta versions, Full Version. The last hope after a spring release was Fall 2008. Now all we can hope for is more beta testing. Someone has to stop these release date lies. It should be illegal for a company to knowingly give false release dates. Sony has been doing this for the last 4 years and everyone keeps giving them a pass. At this point, shouldn’t Sony’s marketing strategy fall under false advertising?
Ok...I could really care less about the delay. If they get it right...who am I to complain? Now if it sucks...there will be much complaining. However; a lot of people above and on the previous page are trying desperately to cling to what little hope this console is showing. I bought one(yea I made that mistake). I only feel it was a mistake because of the games available. How long has this system been out? We're only seeing ports from the 360. Where's the selection of games that the previous PS's have had?
We all know the 360 has faulty hardware...that's been out for awhile. Having said that...I bought one at launch and it just ate dirt last week. Go to UPS ask them how many PS3's they receive weekly...it's nearly as high as the 360's. I don't know why it's not getting as much attention as the 360 did... O.o..that's right...the 360 was the first/only next gen system available when they were having the majority of their problems. I would rather own a system that could crash(and be replaced/fixed for free) than own a system that had nothing worth playing. However...I own them both and I'm very disapointed in the attention that the PS3 has not been getting.
Been waiting on this for years now? Feels like hype right now to me.