[...but deliver an XP box with Vista upgrade DVD...]
Sneaky bastards! :D
Really, if you are buying new hardware, there is very little holding you back from Vista. Yes, there is a learning curve, but you get that with every OS.
When XP came out, people were complaining just the same.
One problem with your argument: Vista is bloated. If I bought a brand new, ultra-fast PC today, I would not want to waste time waiting for it to boot up with Vista. I would want the performance of XP.
If I wanted a fancy OS, I could install WindowBlinds. Vista is not Green. Get over it. Vista is the Windows ME of our times. If you want an unmodified version of Vista, XP fits perfectly.
I know the underlying OS for Vista is quite similar to XP. There's no reason to upgrade. You have 2 months to buy a 'real OS' and not the Vista problem.
I'd have to disagree with Backwards People, I have 3 computers running vista that I use regularly (one at work, my personal desktop, and my tablet). Of the three, my home desktop works great, fast to boot, fast to go down, I don't know what your issue is there. I have apps start up and everything with no issues, it's no slower/faster than my XP load was. My tablet is underpowered and does suffer some, though I'm soon to reload Vista without the Toshiba bloat on it. My desktop at work is so-so, but that's mostly to do with some domain issues that also effect XP machines.
So my experience is that if you have what you need to run it, it runs fine, note that my desktop at home isn't anything special, 2gigs of RAM and a slower proc, non-core2.
@Backwards People: Actually, Vista is a lot less bloated than you think. Many core components that were bloated in XP were re-written to be much more flexible so in many ways, Vista has lost quite a bit of bloat when compared to XP..The problem, however, is that Vista has new capabilities that will obviously take more CPU and GPU power.
To be honest, I did several benchmarking tests and Vista performed mostly on par with XP. When I disabled some of its advanced features I didn't notice any performance differences.
I think the whole "Vista is the new Windows ME" is just a bunch of FUD. I've used it on many machines, newer and older hardware, and it operates just as fast and has been much more stable than XP has been for me (which would make since because Vista has its drivers in User mode rather than Kernel mode).
Vista runs fine on my 2.2gHz dual core tablet with 2 gigs of RAM. With all my normal apps running (AIM, FFox, iTunes, PuTTY), my RAM use hovers around 50%, going up slowly thanks to Firefox, and both cores around 40%, down to 15-25 or so if I turn off iTunes. I haven't had a single crash yet, or any reason to go back to XP.
Very little holding me back from Vista? I guess you forgot about the real cost of Vista content protection, and the invasion of privacy and trying to control my desktop:
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Kip HT @ Apr 28th 2008 12:52PM
[...but deliver an XP box with Vista upgrade DVD...]
Sneaky bastards! :D
Really, if you are buying new hardware, there is very little holding you back from Vista. Yes, there is a learning curve, but you get that with every OS.
When XP came out, people were complaining just the same.
Backwards People @ Apr 28th 2008 2:08PM
One problem with your argument: Vista is bloated. If I bought a brand new, ultra-fast PC today, I would not want to waste time waiting for it to boot up with Vista. I would want the performance of XP.
If I wanted a fancy OS, I could install WindowBlinds. Vista is not Green. Get over it. Vista is the Windows ME of our times. If you want an unmodified version of Vista, XP fits perfectly.
I know the underlying OS for Vista is quite similar to XP. There's no reason to upgrade. You have 2 months to buy a 'real OS' and not the Vista problem.
Jeff @ Apr 28th 2008 2:13PM
i have to agree with "Backwards People" (above comment)
Vista is the WindowsME of this generation.
lizaoreo @ Apr 28th 2008 2:35PM
I'd have to disagree with Backwards People, I have 3 computers running vista that I use regularly (one at work, my personal desktop, and my tablet). Of the three, my home desktop works great, fast to boot, fast to go down, I don't know what your issue is there. I have apps start up and everything with no issues, it's no slower/faster than my XP load was. My tablet is underpowered and does suffer some, though I'm soon to reload Vista without the Toshiba bloat on it. My desktop at work is so-so, but that's mostly to do with some domain issues that also effect XP machines.
So my experience is that if you have what you need to run it, it runs fine, note that my desktop at home isn't anything special, 2gigs of RAM and a slower proc, non-core2.
Kris @ Apr 28th 2008 2:36PM
@Backwards People: Actually, Vista is a lot less bloated than you think. Many core components that were bloated in XP were re-written to be much more flexible so in many ways, Vista has lost quite a bit of bloat when compared to XP..The problem, however, is that Vista has new capabilities that will obviously take more CPU and GPU power.
To be honest, I did several benchmarking tests and Vista performed mostly on par with XP. When I disabled some of its advanced features I didn't notice any performance differences.
I think the whole "Vista is the new Windows ME" is just a bunch of FUD. I've used it on many machines, newer and older hardware, and it operates just as fast and has been much more stable than XP has been for me (which would make since because Vista has its drivers in User mode rather than Kernel mode).
John @ Apr 28th 2008 2:53PM
Vista runs fine on my 2.2gHz dual core tablet with 2 gigs of RAM. With all my normal apps running (AIM, FFox, iTunes, PuTTY), my RAM use hovers around 50%, going up slowly thanks to Firefox, and both cores around 40%, down to 15-25 or so if I turn off iTunes. I haven't had a single crash yet, or any reason to go back to XP.
johnzilla @ Apr 28th 2008 4:15PM
Very little holding me back from Vista? I guess you forgot about the real cost of Vista content protection, and the invasion of privacy and trying to control my desktop:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
Ayrkain @ Apr 28th 2008 8:04PM
I seriously dislike MS in certain arenas, but that Gutmann article is bunk.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=673
Kip HT @ Apr 29th 2008 8:06AM
Have a read of this: http://digg.com/tech_news/Remembering_Windows_XP_s_early_days_2
Everyone hated XP when it came out.
TheAssailant6661 @ Apr 30th 2008 3:27PM
@ Kip, lizaoreo, & John: Word.