Xbox 360 Spring update to include motion control and game install support?
By Joshua Fruhlinger 
posted May 14th 2008 11:42AM
posted May 14th 2008 11:42AM
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WTF. if you decline you'll be logged out? so you are forced to update?!
Where have you been? It's _always_ like that for XBox updates so it can ensure everyone on Live has the up to date software. This helps prevent cheating.
well, never used an xbox 360 before, nor have I done an update on it :). forgive my ignorance.
yeah. It's effing annoying. I rarely use my 360 so it seems like every time I turn the damn thing on I have to wait for an update.
I do understand the point, though. Just wish they had fewer things that needed fixing.
lol your apple logo did not give away your fanboism to anything not Microsoft. The xbox is great. The best thing Microsoft has. Stop hating
@Reid
FYI,
Updates don't always consist of fixes.
In this case (and many more before it), it just means added features.
Would you prefer no support and no updates?
I rather like being able to play DivX files natively on my 360.
Hey Jack, give Read a break. At least he's got a 360 unlike myself :).
I do understand that it makes sense to "force" ppl to update, but having a choise would be nice. Otherwise stuff like DRM might mess up the experience. XP updates can be selective as well. by default all are installed, but I could choose to ignore the once I don't want.
Anyway, off to the Pub.
@Reid
The Xbox only gets 2 updates a year. I know you don't care and that Apple logo is a bit of a give away but the more you know...
how can you guys dog on someone for having an apple logo as their avatar? Apple doesn't even make a gaming system. This is the wrong topic to flam someone for being an apple fanboy. You turds.
BTW, if you guys haven't figured this out, you don't have to update, you just can't use live. this is fine, because if you are really against it, you can still play local games.
I would also like to add, that I have been very happy with the recent feature updates.
I have the Xbox 360 and a PS3.
Anyone complaining about the 360 updates are either very, very, very stupid, or they have never used a PS3.
The Xbox updates in no time at all and requires next to nothing from you whatsoever.
The PS3 updates TAKE FOREVER
You can still use the 360 and play games... just not on LIVE... MS doesn't want to have to support older firmware on live.. so when they make an update to the dashboard and they update their live servers they go together right. So if you don't want to update... you can still play u just can't be connected to xbox LIVE.
XBL has 12 million subscribers. In order to manage the success and support of the service as it ages, versions are released, and the needs evolve, you have to have everyone on the same page.
Think console, not computer.
That'd be sweet for the 360.
That'd be gay for the 360.
You're gay for the 360.
Now everyone click the button that looks like this [ - ]
On your comment, sure.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IF IT IS SWEET OR NOT, THIS RUMOR WILL BE FOUND OUT TO BE WRONG IN TOMORROW'S EDITION OF ENGADGET!
.... Anything you can do we can do better....
No you cant. No, really, you cant
Yes Wii can.
For a few days here (Superpapermario) and there (Supermariogalaxy & Brawl) before Wii are bored Zzzz.
Maybe when Grand Theft Auto V comes out, I can actually beat a hooker with a baseball bat.. Wii style!
They could actually incorporate that into GTA 4, through a patch.
i hear you can do that on the IRL platform
Oh the game is so life like I dress up my wife and start beating her until nickels comes out of her. Some how when it's her turn to dress me up dollar bills come out of my butt.
i hear you can do that on the IRL platform
i'm an idiot.
You mean how you get the censored version of Manhunt 2? You think GTA would ever be on Wii?? Yeah with pixelated kills and no blood and all the bad words removed for the little kids.
so when will ps3 counter with a good media center update?
Just as soon as Sony learns how to speedily program for their own system.
so when is this actually coming out? its almost summer!
It's the Spring update so any time between now and June 20th.
i call bull shit. they have stated in the past that they will not incorporate 4 way chat, and doesn't it seem a little weird that all of these updates are things that were asked for? when has Microsoft ever done that? i hope its all true because it gives me a few more reasons to love my xbox but i dont think it is
Read: Fall 2007 Update; DivX/Xvid support, http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/04/xbox-360-fall-2007-dashboard-update-hands-on/
And yet whoever came up with that list still didn't add 16x10 monitor support.
"Option to remove payment information from gamertag." would be great, but I don't see that happening.
And those DRM items don't make sense, the first one isn't even complete:
"# Option to see what items will not work offline due to DRM license changing from
# Option to automatically associate new DRM to items downloaded for free."
The second one would be nice, it would prevent situations like having to be logged in to Live to watch XviD.
Microsoft is giving us features we ask for with the zune. i think its something new they're tryin, actually listening to their customers.
The Force Unleashed is out in August isn't it? You know(hope) that someone will make a lightsaber "waggler" for it...
September :-(
My 360 broke a few days ago. Despite the warranty extension I had to pay 140 bucks to get it fixed. I guess malfunctioning disc tray is not covered or something. I'd probably just go buy a PS3 (despite some misgivings about it) right now but I have game saves I'm working on. Still waiting for the shipping box to show 2 weeks later.
I'm sorry that you had a problem, but what does that have to do with this blog post?
OK, so if anyone noticed the Xbox Live Vision Camera on the top of the TV in the picture, it would probably be VERY obvious that the 'motion capture device' they are talking about is the camera and not a new sensor bar-like, motion sensing controller.
Its way too late in the game to get into another company's demographics, and just plain poor PR. Wise Up!
Wrong - MS have filed patents for and announced their intention to supply at least one motion-actuated controller for the 360.
Hope they have developers ready to push the Wii's fun party game ideas to a much higher level and not just tweak the visuals - instead.. actually make something that's fun to play and which has some depth and longevity.
Can you link to an article confirming this? Because without any type of patent-drawing blueprints, I'm thinking it'd be more like a SIXAXIS PS3 motion-sensor control rather than a Wii wand.
Damn the nerve of these people. How can you say "Wrong, you're and idiot"?... Do you work for MS?
For all you know Low Ranked could be right.
Last I checked MS was researching motion control using cameras. I can't find a link but I have been blogging on engadget long enough to remember them posting about a demonstration MS held at some point last year.
MS Surface uses cameras, but I'm not sure thats the same technology I saw last year.
Here is the link.
Man I have been blogging for too long cuz I thought it was a year ago, it turns out it was two years ago !!!!
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/e306/e306-clips-xbox-360-gesture-recognition-172978.php
Your Xbox broke a few days ago, but you called 2 weeks ago to report it broke and to order a shipping box?
Either you're psychic or it was really your time machine that broke.
It was a mistake. But thanks for caring.
I don't. =]
I find it funny that low-ranked's picture is made to make us think that he once managed to pull a decent chick.
It's a sad lonely life when all you got for company is the palm of your right hand!
;-)
I guess you'd know better than I would.
Ha! Shows how much you know! HE'S LEFT-HANDED!
Wow, I don't even want to know how you know BuddhaBoy... Perhaps his avatar should be a picture of the two of you.
Ok if they do include these to main topic features, we can still put the hurt on Wii and PS3.
We will have the first option of using the controller and then the wag remote with games. But i hope to high hell that MS is smart enough to push XBL Arcade games instead of mini games on disc.
Second it sounds like we will have the option to install or not. Again so that users that have the 20gb like myself can still enjoy games. FYI if you have downloaded items in the past you can redownload them.
But it sounds like the PS3 makes you install some sort of cache for most of their games.
It sounds like it will allow more adaption for the gamer type.
I'm on 20GB and have never ran out of space. Who needs a PS3 with 80GB?
If you download full xbox one games and 360 demos you need more than 20gb.
@ Alex
I seem to barely save stuff on my HD and already i'm almost full. I guess it depends on what you're doing on it.
As a Wii60 owner, I care not for the pointing, waggling gimmicks on the Wii and do not care for them to make an appearance on the 360.
I wonder if the copying will ever go in the opposite direction so we get a decent online experience on a Nintendo system. Sigh.
I can actually here your avatar sigh., it's like the Van Gogh painting.
Bring it on.
Guys stop hating/complaining about something you haven't even seen yet. Let it get here before you poop on it. Jeez !!!
The more upgrades and complete the service is the better we all are. If you don't like the motion control/detection idea then don't buy games that are made for it. Just like if you don't like JRPGs you don't buy them. That doesn't mean the rest of us ain't willing to give a lightsaber match on Live a try !!!
Anyway, Low Ranked made a good point up above. This could be simply motion detection using cameras. MS has been doing research on this for a minute now. Products like Surface are using some of that technology.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/e306/e306-clips-xbox-360-gesture-recognition-172978.php
OMFG GAME INSTALL SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!
I'm praying that this means we'll be able to copy our games to the hard drive so I don't have to hear that god damned noisy DVD drive anymore!!!
I'm sure you'll have to put the disc in for copyright purposes. So the initial spin symphony will still exist.
A lot of devs have been asking for this. I suspect the disc will still spin (after install) but at a much slower pace. More like DVD movie playback speed which is WAY quieter.
I wonder if any games like Mass Effect could be back patched to have this feature. I really like Mass Effect but that texture poping can get distracting.
Not going to happen.
If there was a true 1-1 motion control system that could be a lot of fun.
Unfortunately it's probably another lame ass gesture based system just like the wiitard system has.
By the way, I have all 3 systems. I had to learn the hard way that I don't like my Wii other than a couple of 1st party games (duh, mario and zelda kick ass no matter how lame the controller is!)
"wiitard system"
Wow don't you sound mature?
@ Ken
No, you're immature!! lol
Q: Since when do lame jokes make one immature?
A: They don't.
Your welcome.
Now fuck off.
So does this mean they're updating the BC of the 360 too? I hope so, because I don't want to buy a regular oXbox to play some of the games I got from Goozex.
Backwards compatability is seperate from the spring update. I think Microsoft has said that the BC effort is done for them (or specifically not an effort that will generate enough money (or good will) to justify the expense for the reminaing titles). I would not expect anymore BC updates.
Yes, it sucks, but welcome to the world of the PS3. A lot of titles did make it though, at least all the ones I care about except Riddick. Arggg.
That's a nice start, Microsoft, but everyone and their mother is going for the PS3 instead because of the free online play. Don't nickel and dime your customers for everything and maybe you can stay on top.
"everyone and their mother is going for the PS3 instead"
Is that why the 360 outsells the PS3 on a constant basis? Where did you get this information? Japan?
You ever hear "you get what you pay for?", I tried "free" multiplayer gaming on the PSP. That was the last Sony system I ever owned, Twisted Metal Black never worked in online play mode and multiplayer on the PS2 was a joke. Socom was unplayable online unless you cheated like everybody else. Xbox live actually polices its users and if you cheat your kicked out. PC games have punkbuster for a reason, what does the PS3 have to prevent assholes from pissing in the online gaming pool?
Can I get remote access to my live account? I want to be able to login from any xbox without moving around my hdd or profile. Can't I just login to it???
Amen brother.
Looking forward to this update. I like seeing new things and improved features.
I hope they fix the damn XBLA DRM scheme.
Anything that makes money in a market segment Microsoft can be in becomes the next target of Microsoft.
"How dare Nintendo make money on a game system, Microsoft is the game system" hisss "We will make a motion control system and call it Microsoft Play!, then Nintendo will know only Microsoft rules electronic land. The billions will be ours" hisss.
I actually think Microsoft's intent is more in attracting users who already purchased the Wii. The Wii has opened the market up to the casual crowed after all. I bet they think that with a new perphiral, they can lure that second purchase over to the 360 as opposed to the PS3.
Also don't underestimate the earning power of add-on peripherals. They generate a huge amount of profit for the console makers.
A Dual Shock for $55? Wii Fit...It's a frickin $90 scale and it's selling like gang busters.
Had a Wii the first day it came out. Returned it the very next day. I hope microsoft opens my eyes to motion sensing because so far what I have seen is not so great.
@Paul PS3 has better online gameplay? I am suprised you figured out how to post on here. Now use the internet to find out what everyone else knows about xbox live and its benefits.
Hey maybe now I will be able to get to waggle a controller. Everyone knows those freaking Wii's have been out of stock for damn near 8 months. I have been trying to get one since November last year. Plus I played the best Mario games a long time ago and as cool as the Wii is I would much rather use the motion sensor to beat people up in GTA than collect stars or fire a crossbow.
Motion sensor + good games = :D
PS3 is still just meh. I want one, but then again I don't.
Just to clarify I don't hate on any of the systems I want all of them just happen to only have a 360. 360 is more affordable than PS3 and more available than Wii Xbox live is just so simple plus teh Haloz.
If the 16x10 monitor thing is true that will be awesome as I have a 22 inch HP that does 1680x1050 gorgeously.
Will my 360 finally be able to play my Napster stuff?
Not too interested in the new controllers...
No news about the rumors of an update that will allow the xbox to spin down the DVD drive when it wasn't being used?
What we need is 1680x1050 resolution support... how difficult could that be if in a PC its like 2 clicks away????
Too bad, I would by two if it would allow video chat from the XBox Live Messenger to the Windows Live Messenger, but that is not in the list...
But it is on the list:
"Support for headset, Xbox LIVE Vision in Windows Live Messenger."
game installs, great. Now how about an update that will let you use any off-the-shelf hard drive, so we don't have to get reamed by Microsoft and pay $120 in order to actually install more than one game on a 20GB system?
Well, according to Southwest Airlines. Xbox 360 already has motion tracking controllers, with a baseball game. Check the TV ad... http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y8DhF3z1Q0s
Saw this the first time during the Cavs vs Celtics Game 5.
That update is going to be RAW.