@psxp It isn't fear, it is called reality. When you have experienced someone trying to harm your family talk to me.
and I like dogs and the reality is that homes in my city are broken into all the time. I would own handguns either way but they work much better than my 9-iron.
So if somebody were to break into your house, do you think TC would be more afraid than you? Doesnt sound like fear, sounds like he's prepared "in case"
Don't sweat it TC. The "you're a scared little baby" argument is all these liberals have on self defense topics. He'll change his mind once the government gives him something worth stealing and it gets stolen or when one of his loved ones is hurt by a criminal.
This guy probably thinks that the cops and/or government are obligated to protect him despite the court decisions that hold the cops have no duty to you even when they have expressly promised to protect you from a particular situation.
wow, I didnt realise I would cause such a storm with my comment.
In NZ, where I am from we dont get a lot of violent home breakins.. hell, the cops dont even carry guns!! I never heard of "home invasion" until I travelled to Nth America.
Not saying we dont have crime, or shootings, but gun violence is very little.
Your missing the point. You can't compare seatbelts and helmets to guns. There's no risk involved in wearing a helmet (although maybe some street cred).
Yes, both seat belts and helmets take lives when used improperly, same as firearms. Good job shooting yourself in the foot (pun intended).
On a side note, my father worked for the fire department for over 30 years, and saw seat belts take more lives than he saw them save. The same cannot be said of firearms. Take that for what it's worth.
You don't *have* to shoot someone to protect yourself with a gun. The point is that these three things can all protect you from harm. Disecting for the differences is a non-issue..
You're fortunate not to have the low-lifes that we do.
But we have them, and we refuse to properly remove them from society, so we have to deal with them.
You shouldn't speak on topics that you don't understand. How can you discuss self protection when you admit you've never had the need to think about it?
By the way, I don't beleive that you don't have low-lifes there. I beleive that you're sugar coating it and that your low-lifes use knives or bats instead of guns. All tools of the same trade, they just get the job done in a different fashion. I also think that saying you're quite young and just trying to do the fashionable thing and make pokes at the US, but stepped in a little deeper than you meant to would be pretty accurate.
My neighbor would have died in a car crash had he been wearing his seatbelt. He got ejected and that saved him. There is some evidence that sometimes, seatbelts don't help.
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@TC Shame you have to live in Fear where you are.. such a shame..
BTW - The picture of the burglar is hilarious!!
@psxp
It isn't fear, it is called reality. When you have experienced someone trying to harm your family talk to me.
and I like dogs and the reality is that homes in my city are broken into all the time. I would own handguns either way but they work much better than my 9-iron.
So if somebody were to break into your house, do you think TC would be more afraid than you? Doesnt sound like fear, sounds like he's prepared "in case"
Don't sweat it TC. The "you're a scared little baby" argument is all these liberals have on self defense topics. He'll change his mind once the government gives him something worth stealing and it gets stolen or when one of his loved ones is hurt by a criminal.
This guy probably thinks that the cops and/or government are obligated to protect him despite the court decisions that hold the cops have no duty to you even when they have expressly promised to protect you from a particular situation.
PSXP,
Do you wear a seat belt when driving?
Do you wear a helmet when riding?
What a shame it is that you live in such fear.
Helmets, seat belts, firearms.... you never need them until you NEEEED them.
wow, I didnt realise I would cause such a storm with my comment.
In NZ, where I am from we dont get a lot of violent home breakins.. hell, the cops dont even carry guns!! I never heard of "home invasion" until I travelled to Nth America.
Not saying we dont have crime, or shootings, but gun violence is very little.
its the guy from invisible man
@andy
Do seat belts kill people when used?
Do helmets kill people when used?
Do guns kill people when used?
@ddub
You're doing it wrong?
Do seatbelts save lives?
Do helmets save lives?
Do firearms save lives?
/fixed
@StrangeBum
Your missing the point. You can't compare seatbelts and helmets to guns. There's no risk involved in wearing a helmet (although maybe some street cred).
@ddub:
Yes, both seat belts and helmets take lives when used improperly, same as firearms. Good job shooting yourself in the foot (pun intended).
On a side note, my father worked for the fire department for over 30 years, and saw seat belts take more lives than he saw them save. The same cannot be said of firearms. Take that for what it's worth.
You don't *have* to shoot someone to protect yourself with a gun. The point is that these three things can all protect you from harm. Disecting for the differences is a non-issue..
@ddub
Helmets, when used properly, can cause fatigue, and can cause visibility issues, while providing very little protection at high-speed.
Seatbelts, when used properly, trap people in vehicles causing further injury upon accident.
Guns, when used properly, prevent crime and protect people from harm ;)
@Eric
Helmets and seatbelts don't take lives. They may just fail from saving your life. A gun is designed to take lives.
"saw seat belts take more lives than he saw them save. The same cannot be said of firearms"
Both of those claims are BullS**t. Show me some actual evidence of this and I'll shut up forever.
So from fake tv lights, we have now gone and established that seatbelts and helmets kill people....greaaat.
@JD
You mentioned the downsides of seatbelts and helmets, but you failed to mention what happens when guns are used improperly.
Guns don't always save lives when used properly. If an intruder in your house uses his gun more properly than you, i think your in trouble.
PSXP,
You're fortunate not to have the low-lifes that we do.
But we have them, and we refuse to properly remove them from society, so we have to deal with them.
You shouldn't speak on topics that you don't understand. How can you discuss self protection when you admit you've never had the need to think about it?
By the way, I don't beleive that you don't have low-lifes there. I beleive that you're sugar coating it and that your low-lifes use knives or bats instead of guns. All tools of the same trade, they just get the job done in a different fashion. I also think that saying you're quite young and just trying to do the fashionable thing and make pokes at the US, but stepped in a little deeper than you meant to would be pretty accurate.
My neighbor would have died in a car crash had he been wearing his seatbelt. He got ejected and that saved him. There is some evidence that sometimes, seatbelts don't help.