The current Core 2 Duo ULV processors (U7500, - U7700) have a TDP of 10W, so the 8W TDP of this Atom is not really "far less than any of Intel's other low-voltage processors". In fact, the current Core 2 Solos (U2100, U2200) have a TDP of only 5.5W.
I agree. And what I don't get is that the Core 2 Duo ULV processors kick the shit out of a similarly clocked ATOM at almost the same power usage!!! WTF?? Even the Core 2 Celeron ULV chips are faster. It looks to me like the ATOM will be near worthless for ANYTHING other than smartphones and so-called "MIDS". I don't think they'll even be able to compete for todays UMPCs and especially mini-notebooks like the EEPC.
And as far as smartphones go, No one is yet using ARM's latest. Their Cortex-A9 chips are dual-core, scale to over 1.0Ghz, and use hardly any more power than the current ARM11!!
I think everyone is overhyping the ATOM and it is going to have a tough time competing with new stuff from ARM, especially being the newcomer to the market. Also, with windows mobile, Symbian, Android, and OSX operating systems and development SDKs already having been ported to ARM, what good does x86 do in a small mobile device? Its not like you'd want to run windows XP on a smartphone... Both the OS and the UI on small devices has to be vastly modified anyways.
Agreed, I am leery of these Atom processors, sure a lot of hype and excitement about them, especially from Engadget but I'm not feeling it. I've mainly used the Pentium M and Core 2 Duo ULV processors and am very happy with them.
I would love if the MSI Wind, HP Mini-Note and EEE 900 could have even used Core Solo or even Pentium M ULV processors.
I think the really only benefit of Atom is its low price compared to Intel's ULV chips?
There is confusion with TDP of Atom processors. Some sources state 2W or 4W for a single core Atom. It means probably there are different voltage versions just like with Celerons-M and C2D chips.
8W for dual core Atom if it isn't for any special ULV version is pretty good. You will not also get any 10W ULV C2D chips for cheap.
This is all pointless... keep reading about the release and what it is. It's more of 2 separate processors tide together instead of 1 core 2 duo processor. Like the first generation of the dual processors that intel first came out with. Great for small desktops but not NetBooks(too bulky). Look down the line in 2009(possibly 1010) before that's introduced.
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The current Core 2 Duo ULV processors (U7500, - U7700) have a TDP of 10W, so the 8W TDP of this Atom is not really "far less than any of Intel's other low-voltage processors". In fact, the current Core 2 Solos (U2100, U2200) have a TDP of only 5.5W.
so much for low power....
I agree. And what I don't get is that the Core 2 Duo ULV processors kick the shit out of a similarly clocked ATOM at almost the same power usage!!! WTF?? Even the Core 2 Celeron ULV chips are faster.
It looks to me like the ATOM will be near worthless for ANYTHING other than smartphones and so-called "MIDS". I don't think they'll even be able to compete for todays UMPCs and especially mini-notebooks like the EEPC.
And as far as smartphones go, No one is yet using ARM's latest. Their Cortex-A9 chips are dual-core, scale to over 1.0Ghz, and use hardly any more power than the current ARM11!!
I think everyone is overhyping the ATOM and it is going to have a tough time competing with new stuff from ARM, especially being the newcomer to the market. Also, with windows mobile, Symbian, Android, and OSX operating systems and development SDKs already having been ported to ARM, what good does x86 do in a small mobile device? Its not like you'd want to run windows XP on a smartphone... Both the OS and the UI on small devices has to be vastly modified anyways.
Agreed, I am leery of these Atom processors, sure a lot of hype and excitement about them, especially from Engadget but I'm not feeling it.
I've mainly used the Pentium M and Core 2 Duo ULV processors and am very happy with them.
I would love if the MSI Wind, HP Mini-Note and EEE 900 could have even used Core Solo or even Pentium M ULV processors.
I think the really only benefit of Atom is its low price compared to Intel's ULV chips?
There is confusion with TDP of Atom processors. Some sources state 2W or 4W for a single core Atom. It means probably there are different voltage versions just like with Celerons-M and C2D chips.
8W for dual core Atom if it isn't for any special ULV version is pretty good. You will not also get any 10W ULV C2D chips for cheap.
This is all pointless... keep reading about the release and what it is. It's more of 2 separate processors tide together instead of 1 core 2 duo processor. Like the first generation of the dual processors that intel first came out with. Great for small desktops but not NetBooks(too bulky). Look down the line in 2009(possibly 1010) before that's introduced.