NVIDIA shows off Tegra on video
By Joshua Topolsky 
posted Jun 3rd 2008 5:06PM
posted Jun 3rd 2008 5:06PM
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Cool, just like my new avatar...
Although I wonder what happens when the user rotates that particular device 90 degrees?
Deja Vu?
Wow your first comment not saying something about apple. Congrats. Your an idiot btw.
I wonder what happens when people vote you down?
Deja Vu?
imacmatt09:
You're an idiot.*
Owned. Nice work.
when a company hypes up a new product like this it can only mean two things epic fail or its gonna be really god damn expensive. (did i just get teleported into the future?)
@maty Especially since the tilting 90degrees is obviously an iPhone reference
OneLove
Did I read something wrong or did they actually promise devices for $200-250?
That would be the astrological symbol for pisces.
You seem just the kind of idiot that would have an ipod museum in their living room.
Okay, so it's awesome technology, but I'm a bit confused. Will NVIDIA integrate this into making laptops a lot smaller, or will it be used in cell phones. The answer's probably in the article and I'm just overlooking it.
smartphones/MIDs
it's a replacement for their old GoForce line, they had a push for it a while back
I think I know the perfect place for it... PSP2!
Can only hope from here...
Absolute garbage, *cough* wait till you see the new iphone heh.
"The sex"
This is just for those MID type things, not for the so called 'netbooks' ?
Okay, i hate the word "Netbook" UMPC, Sub Notebook, anything but Netbook... I mean, come on, Netbook?
Agreed, anyone who uses that term should be excommunicated.
I have always wanted to be excommunicated, so this is my chance...
Netbook!
I love the word "excommunicated".
Dude, you butchered it.
my girlfriend and I often sexcommunicated.
By the pope?
The GPU aspect of this device looks outstanding (when compared to GPU capabilities of the current set of 'netbooks' out there). Im guessing the GPU aspect takes most of the load off the Arm 11 CPU.
Where will this product go ? Is it viable for a netbook with some Linux variation. I assume XP is a no go due to the architecture ?
Would certainly make a nice gaming / web handheld if people actually wrote the games for it.
Im betting it ends up in somekind of phone hybrid. I like where Nvidia is going though... makes the 'atom' processor look old.
Amazing looking for now. I hope so much that some manufacturer like HTC picks it up and backs it with nice support, so that games are built for it etc. It could be the next big thing, who needs an iPhone or a WM smartphone, when this nice little fellow can play HD and Quake?!
nVidia have already demo'ed this chip in a mobile phone... which was running Windows CE. It worked a dream and its astoundingly better than anything on the market now!!!
This is a WM smartphone isnt it?
Beautiful device.
That looks awesome, can't wait for it to be implemented into consumer devices!
I don't understand how did they do this, but I need one! This looks impressing.
I'd love for someone to put this in a HTPC priced at EeePC levels.
That's some pretty amazing stuff, and if I'm not mistaken, it looked like a scroll wheel was being used in a couple of the videos... not a fan of scroll wheels, but that's okay... and earlier reports of battery life issued by Nvidia, were they referring to HD playback via HDMI or actual onscreen viewing? because wtvr the # was, it was insane, something in the 100 hr range...
So much competition these days! but the prices are not dropping like the should :(
was it me or i saw some COVERFLOW on the 2nd vid??
it looks very impressive, would like to see more devices with this... too bad i have to wait till '09!! i want it now lol
yeah, i can definitely agree with that... the ui is absolutely beautiful, though it is quite reminiscent of coverflow, it is 3d, and that makes it look loads better...
Oh man it looks like it has a little scroll dial like on a dslr! That is such a good solution! Those dials are so tactile and easy to use.
Are they using a player/pmp that they will brand and sell?
They really think they're going to capture the MID market with this?
The majority of those devices run some form of Linux, and NVIDIA is not the most popular company with developers and enthusuasts, who ARE the main group of developers.
Their (actually illegal, as they violate the copy right agreement of the code needed to work with the kernel) binary drivers aren't even that great, and are updated far too rarely.
They might be REALLY banking on Winmo 7, because nothing that exists now will run on these to any reasonable degree.
I think a solution like this in sub notebooks would make them pretty popular with developers and enthusiasts, especcially if priced well. The only thing letting it down is not using x86 architecture.
And nothing exists right now that could run on it, but with a little work this could almost certainly beat atom into smartphones.
did they just slap intel in the face with that video
I think it was a cock slap, actually.
no, I'm pretty sure that goes way beyond a slap; Nvidia just teabagged intel, then told it to go fuck itself for the one hour that it can keep low res porn running on its not-so-efficient atom
what video is being played on the 2nd demo?
Looks like a trailer for Curse of the Golden Flower.
http://www.amazon.com/Curse-Golden-Flower-Yun-Fat-Chow/dp/B000MRA592
Fuck yeah!
No seriously, that's all I gotta say - this thing looks amazing!
I hope they deliver on their promises, 'cos this thing looks like it could be huge.
Looks great and I will get one at $200, but I did not hear any cowbells !!?
Nvidia, please bring on the cowbells...tonk tonk TONK !
It certainly looks impressive, and with that kind of technology it does actually make the ATOM seem old fashioned already. And I believe this would be an overnight success if it supported x86 architecture. Though despite this, it does look like it will be appearing in smartphones, and maybe PMP's later on.
Though hopefully this will make it's way into the sub notebook market as being able to output HD content and do some light gaming would be a great selling point, and if Nvidia make true on their promise the Tegra might be cheaper then the ATOM and put sub notebook battery ranges in the 20+ hours.
Very impressive.
You know, I may actually put off buying the iPhone 2.0 and getting this thing.
Very impressive.
You know, the SDK ( for the iphone ) and the toolchain provided advanced features for all developers, but to be honest, I think NVDIA is about to take the cake with this.
I can not wait for the programs that developers will make with this thing. This thing will blow the iPhone out of the water.
N41
Is it just me or have they intentionally slowed that intel notebook, it just seems to frame skip during playback....seems to me that "netbooks/umpc's" etc should be able to play SD and even HD without any real problems?
The movie is called "The Curse of the Golden Flower" too (the one with all the bright colours).
Personally I just wish all the tech companies would get over this whole love affair with tiny notebooks and start releasing better designed and cheaper 13" plus notebooks, sick of tech sites like these being clogged with crappy tiny computers that tech heads like us won't use and stupid "gps art" give me more smart phones, and flying cars please....though this was ok, i just don't care about the next EEEEEEE23 Notebook.
Most 'netbooks' have difficulties with playback of HD content and even then the notebook would get nowhere near this amount of battery life
OQO: Here's your platform. Get this Tegra into something like your current 02. If you build it...they will come...
Very, very nice.. So can I dream of one of this device with 1tb some day?
Go ahead, it doesn't bother me.
If chip lives up to the hype, it will be a game changer. A promised 30 hours of HD playback is ridiculous. I wonder what operating system that demo UI is running on. Nvidia is a member of the Open Handset Alliance...
And now I have absolutely no reason to buy an upcoming superphone and MID combo (I was looking at either the 3G iPhone/Nokia N96+Nokia N810) until Tegra devices start coming out.
At least I saved myself a lot of money and grief!
The Quake vid looks fake... It looks like they sped up the video so we can't notice the real framerate...
Just look at the way the camera shakes while they are filming...
I'm pretty sure that was a timedemo, bud. I'm guessing you've never benchmarked with an id Software title before? =P
Ok, first of all, please do not compare this to the iPhone. This is NOT a device that NVIDIA would be selling. This is a working prototype designed to represent the capabilities of the hardware.
NVIDIA are touting the chipset, not the mobile device, MID, UMPC, 'netbook' (just stating it for completeness) or anything such!
NVIDIA will not sell a self-branded UMPC etc etc. Now, since the device itself is a prototype just for selling the capabilities of the chipset, do not compare it to the iPhone/Apple's Coverflow etc. It's just a reference for you to look at and get an idea of it's capabilities in terms of processing, power management, 3D capabilities and HD capabilities.
I love that 3D interface-- so much better than the iPhone! And the graphics capabilities are unbelievable! This is the iPhone killer!
I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist.
when is it gana come out thats all i want to know
NVIDIA definitely has the right idea to miniaturize an entire chipset to the size of a 2.5 inch hard drive. Their Tegra 650 and 600 solutions seems to be on par with what a mobile user would use (although slightly overpowered). It's a direct comparison to the chipset used in the iPhone and most HTC devices right now with the exception of ULP GeForce which will make all the difference in a MID/UMPC. Tegra will be closer in performance to a Windows Mobile handset than let's say an OQO 02. It's all about meeting needs rather than slamming powerful components into something. I believe that the Tegra will be able to replace current UMPCs with something much snappier and more mobile user friendly.
@Skry:
The point I was making is that Linux developers don't develop for closed hardware.
NVIDIA doesn't open their specs even, thus linux developers won't develop for it.
If there's profit to be made, someone will develop for it.
...if it's Windows.
The standard Linux stack is all FLOSS. I'm willing to be that if this is running some kind of Linux that the negative response it'll have if they don't release the full hardware specs will end any support they might have had left.
Without the support of the community, any linux version dies.
If it's running windows, they can HAVE it. I don't trust black boxes.
Also, if it's running windows, I hope they didn't go into the red on the front end of this project, as it's DOOMED.
The number of Winmo apps is MINISCULE compared to the number of apps that will run on Linux. Generally the work to get things looking good on a small screen(the main problem) is minimal, and if it's an architecture port, then Windows developers have the same problem.
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if intel
while laughing
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Looks impressive. I can't help but to notice the flurry of activity in tech companies attempting to reinvent the mobile internet device market. I think all these EEE notebooks are going to be redundant once iPhone has a legitimate competitor and both strangle the MID market.
If it isn't Mobile, then the tech is all about bigger is better, and intergation with MIDs. I think desktops will be obsolete in 15 years, only to be transformed into glorified home entertainment centers or powerful laptops.
I look forward to seeing what this Tegra really can do.
I didn't know the MID market was being RE-invented. All these devices seem pretty recent to me.
The rest of your comment is pretty much hot air.
Very impressive. I can only imagine the leap smartphone will take in 2-3 other years. I don't think this kind of phone is coming anytime soon, so I'm still sticking to my original HTC Dream/ iPhone 3G plans which are the best of what the current technology is offering.
Press release said something about this running on top of Windows Mobile...think it mentioned availability in second half of 08.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html
"...the NVIDIA® Tegra™ APX applications processors are the key to building next-generation Microsoft Windows Mobile-based devices"
and:
"The first NVIDIA Tegra APX-based devices are expected to begin shipping in late 2008"
did nobody else notice the dell m1530 in the background with what appears to be a huge screen where the touchpad should be?
HTC, you better be listening! Throw that stupid MSM chipset in the nearest dumpster and build the diamond around this one. Do this and i'm sold! :-)