Sapphire Technologies demoes new 3D monitors and drivers at Computex
By Nilay Patel 
posted Jun 4th 2008 9:07AM
posted Jun 4th 2008 9:07AM
posted Jun 4th 2008 9:07AM
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"but Sappire says it's not working"
sorry to be a typo nazi, but you left out the "h"
Thats exact replica of a iz3d monitor
why do they keep makin these screens in combination with the freakin' glasses?! I actually got to install and test 2 Philips 3D monitors that dont require silly goggles, and they were freakin' awesome if you ask me!!
Pricetag was a bit nifty on those things though
Exactly, "ditch the shades", yeah but add these glasses to it ;)
Sigh. To do 3D, each eye has to have a subtly different picture that your brain combines to construct an image with depth, using certain hardwired constraints and assumptions unconsciously.
Since LCDs are not about to be able to actually display pixels at different depths, you have to fake it by having each eye get a different signal. There are two ways to do this:
Color filtering. Annoying, requires glasses. One eye sees the red outlines, the other the blue. Brain doesn't like it, as the colors don't match, but images do pop.
Polarization. Better than color filtering, and both eyes see all colors. Unfortunately this is hard, and still requires glasses. I have no idea how they've managed to get every other pixel to put out different polarizations; sounds hard/expensive.
There really isn't a way to do it from one screen without having some sort of filter to separate out what the other eye sees. Sorry.
@Josh Warner
*Sigh* is exactly the thing that I did when I read your ignorant comment. If you don't know about the technology, than don't bother posting what you think you know, but haven't actually taken the time to do the proper research. Color filtering and polarization are *CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY* forms of stereoscopic 3D imaging
There is already a widely-used term for 3D display systems that don't require any type of glasses. It is Autostereoscopy.
In fact, there are actually no less than 10 existing projects in the works by different startup companies, electronics giants, and research institutions that achieve practical stereo 3D display WITHOUT GLASSES. I believe Phillips and Germany's Fraunhofer are some of the big names involved.
And In fact, I am quite sure that Engadget has reported on these developments over the years. They achieve 3D display tech without glasses by exploiting different optical physics and phenomena, including things like parallax barriers or lenticular lenses that create multiple viewing "zones" that exploit the length between your eyeballs to provide different images to each.
Anyways, to the OP, there is indeed goggle-less 3D on it's way. Just give it about 5 years or so.
Lol, They are allready out there, as i said, i installed and tested 2 Lol..
those costed like 18.000 euro a piece though ;) bit too expensive for my own taste.
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For those fellow dutchies out there:
- The AZ Soccer stadium has one in the show room
- Holland Casino has one on display somewhere
- Head office of Philips in NL has one
And then there is a Back-up screen for the one at the AZ stadium stashed at an IT firm i worked.
That was like a year ago though, dont know where they are located nowadays, but back then those were the only screens in Holland at the moment lol..
bezels always ruin multi monitor-displays for me.
Fine if the displays are a little apart and you're not trying to game on both of them, shit if they're touching
Wouldn't the plastic bezels sort of ruin the effect?
Yuo need the bezels else the realism may cause you to hurt yourself as you reach inside and get your arm run over by the car.
Dig the snazzy $10 keyboard/mouse combo they're using!
Me too. Ridiculously priced keyboards and mice more often than not are just crappy products in a fancy wrapper anyways.
I think the point of having two monitors side by side is to show that they can have two separate renders simultaneously. The 3D monitor is presumably a single screen, but which displays two superimposed images on top of each other and which are filtered by the glasses.
3D without "shades" is terrible. Basically this is because you need a way to make sure only the correct image gets to each eye. Each of the lenses of the shades has a polarising filter (like special sunglasses) which filters out particular kinds of light. Without shades like this, 3D looks rubbish.
--- hmm, apparently my first comment isn't showing up.
Anyways, If by saying that "3D without glasses is rubbish" you mean that looking at existing 3D displays that require glasses without them on looks like rubbish, well no shit.
There are however 3D display systems that DON'T REQUIRE glasses. These are still in prototype phase being perfected and not available on the retail market yet. As I mentioned above in a different comment, There are no less than 10 companies currently working on them, and Phillips and Fraunhofer are two of the larger names involved...
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autostereoscopy
Zalman were demoing these "3d" monitors at the Channel expo, was the stand right next to ours.
the temptation to buy was nearly to much...
thats great, only problem is that you have a thick black bar in the middle of the screen
what game is that? or is it just a demo?
what game is that? or is it just a demo?
Well you have to wear headphones with the iPod, I don't see what the big deal is wearing a pair of shades to see *real* 3d. Its not just hype, it really does look that good.
For all those out there that insist on glasses free 3d get over it and put the god damn glasses on. It's kinda like saying yeah I like that car but can you loose the wheels because I WANT MY HOVER CAR NOW GOD DAMMIT. It just aint possible just yet (for more than one user anyway). So what if you look like a nerd, guess what, if your reading this here blog I got some news for ya, you are probably allready one. The benifit of using this technique over neary all of the other ones is that non electronic glasses and therefore lighter cheaper can be used. This means that if it takes off perhaps a little more resources could go into the design aspect making them a little more attractive for all you fickle nerds out there. Also the best part is that a large group of people can watch the same display using these cheaper specs - something every autostereoscopic display currently lacks at the moment.
So yeah glasses up boys and girls. Porn will never look so good.
You will love it beleive me.
Om
Ill have to look into this new tech