We hear Apple popped out
a new phone or something today. All hearsay, but we though we'd run it by you. The $199 pricepoint for the 8GB, Exchange support, A-GPS and 3G data all make an extremely compelling case, but Apple still has plenty to improve on -- there's still no physical keyboard, if you hadn't noticed (a dealbreaker for some), and Apple has yet to confirm things as common-sensical as copy and paste, video recording and MMS. There's also another little problem for a few folks out there: the resale price on your iPhone is now approximately nil, so good luck offloading that sucker. But enough about what we think, what's on your mind?
Poll after the break.
posted Jun 9th 2008 6:44PM
Tempting, but the service is expensive and I'm holding out for Android!
Hard keyboard is a deal breaker for me. I have to admit though; I was extremely tempted by the price. Fortunately, the two-year contract requirement snapped me back to reality, so I won't be buying something I can't use.
Since it doesn't look like it will be available to Vermonters any time soon it looks like I have no choice but to wait. AT&T needs to get their act together and let Vermonters buy them!
I bet Samsung was glad that this new iPhone is not radically different than the previous model.
With the release of Samsung's new handset soon, a remarkably improved iPhone would have meant doom for the Instinct,
I can't wait to compare the two, I think one of them will be my next device, but I'll have to get some hands-on experience with both first before deciding.
Yes.
no
Sony Ericsson's X1 is the only thing that i would get.
Price increase for 3G seems ridiculous...I'm already paying ATT $90+ a month for my first gen iPhone, $100 is way too much.
I can already use 3G web on some devices, such as my N95-3, so why does ATT feel it's necessary to bump the price up?
It will also be interesting to see how they handle existing customers. I'm still running on my lovely 2 year contract from my first iPhone, do I have to extend that 2 more years to get this one, or just pay through the nose again for an unsubsidized version?
"If you do, with that 2 year contract you'll still be toting around a handset in 2010 that only has a 2MP camera. Ouch!" -- switchbitch
wtf? Really? Have you ever HAD a cell phone under contract? I've been signing 2 year contracts for years now but rarely keep my phones for longer than 6 months or a year.. A 2 year contract with at&t just means you have to stay with at&t for 2 years. You can do whatever you want on the network in those 2 years. Buy a new phone (usually after about a year, they give you 'upgrade discounts' and such), change your plan, do whatever.
And that's only one thing you screwed up with your comment. Did you notice when the first iPhone came out, that the firmware was updated many times (and will be updated again when the iPhone 2 comes out) .. All the other gripes you mentioned (with the exception of the 2MP camera) are software issues that could very well be changed in the future..
I will definitely be getting a new 16GB iPhone 3G next month because I love the user experience included with it. I love that everything just works. You can keep your 'features' that you say you take for granted (which I can't think of anything right now. Java support? wow. I'll do without. Give me native apps any day), I'll stick with all the features I need in a package that JUST WORKS.
Yeah , I agree with you 100% .
Plus I'm pretty sure A2DP could be added as a software update.
MMS could be added
copy+paste
Camera editing
could all be added
That's all software. But I mean , People WILL develop these things and they WILL be on the App store , if not on other websites. Someone has already figured out how to put video on the v1 iphone.
My only qualm is the fact that they didn't release a 32Gb. If they say they want to have their iPod customers who have cell phones to just have ONE device , it would make sense that people ( like my self ) who also have iPods that are 30GB ( because they DID sell that same 30GB model for a good 3 years before the iPhone came out) should make an easy transition by makign a 32GB.
They'll have a 32GB one soon i think .... I'll buy the 16 now and sell that when/if i start hearing news about a 32, and go back to my BJII in the mean time and get the 32 when it arrives.
Also , about the AT&T service , I've been with Cingular/AT&T since 2004 and I've had the best service period. I live in NEW YORK , and I don't know about people who live in the middle of the country like Montana n sht, but i get everywhere unless I'm in the tunnel and get absolutely nothing.
Although in some stations i get partial service where i can make emergency calls.
I don't understand how ppl with Verizon say AT&T's service is bad when they don't have it!
If they HAD it i would understand but no one haven't said anything like " i had at&t previously " etc. They're just going by what other's are saying.
AT&T also has the FASTEST 3G , and will get even FASTER by the end of the year.
First ppl complain about edge, you got 3G now and everyone is complaing about 3G ... WTF . If you don't like AT&T and the 30 dollar price and you don't like the fact that it doesn't come with specific features ( which MOST LIKELY WILL BE UPGRADED ON TO THE PHONE) , then STFU , that's what you're being offered.
I don't see anyone complaing in 2004 over the fact that the Razor was 300+ and came with NOTHING in it, but you had MMS though.
It's a great device , it's the first of it's kind to be as suscessful. If you don't want it , don't effin buy it, they'll still sell millions of it , especially at that price.
Umm it's nice and everything, but I think I'm going to stick with the instinct. Despite the nagging the phone is getting I am still satisfied with it or at least I hope I will be! But if I was someone who had ATT then, yeah I would probably get it. For now however, I like sprints service so the instinct will do just fine. :)
Lol. No thanks. I use my phone for calling and texting. I dont need a over-boated cell phone that can cook for me. The majority of people who will buy an iphone will only buy it to be 'cool'.
gimme the treo 800w. thanks.
my verizon contract expires next year and no big changes were made this year, so I'll wait for the next version of the iphone that will severely outdate my ipod touch
60% say yes to one kind or another
Yes, without a doubt. The UK pricing is very competitive £99 8gb and £35 a month is right in the middle of the sweet spot for me.
NO I will not get a 3G iPhone.
The current 3G iPhone offerings still lack common features that other "free after rebates" cell phones have: No MMS, poor 2MP camera with no video recording capabilities and no flash, A2DP stereo and other bluetooth profiles, no bluetooth file transfers or DUN or PAN tethering, no copy and paste functionality, and no removable replaceable battery.
If Apple would keep the original EDGE iPHONE on the market, at the same price as the Palm Treo Centro (around $99,) this would outsell the current 3G iPhone easily!!!!!!
I had been holding out, but now has decided I don't want the 3G iPhone, first of all because it is too bulking. I was hoping that it would shave off some of its fat, but instead it has gained more fat. It would be too bulking to put in my pocket. Now, I am seriously looking into getting one of Nokia's N series. Goodbye Apple. You failed to win me over.
wat r u talking about, the nokia N95 (closest equivilent to the iPhone) is HUGE. The iPhone is sexy slim, even with the little bit of extra fat, which i love
Tempting devices these new 3G iPhones... I just hope that the contracts won't be as absurdly expensive as the iPhone 1 contracts were.
I have been using a Sony-Ericsson with front and back camera for 2 years. I will not get an iPhone until it is can have that functionality, even if its free. My wife and I regularly make video calls. I don't want 2 phones...I have a Macbook Pro. I would love to video chat on my iPhone or use skype with video etc. I wonder how many Europeans feel like I do? We will be waiting another year I guess... Obviously no front camera is a deal breaker for me. Money is not the issue.
Gotta love being in the UK and having o2 make it avaliable on Pay and Go. I.e. NO monthly contract at all.
Skipping it. Going for the Xperia X1
As a UK user, I held back for the iPhone 3G because we barely have EDGE (Lovely networks upgrading our systems all those years ago) - we were catching up with the US, but now it's cheaper and faster, I don't see why I won't be first in line to get one.
My only bugbear is that the camera sounds as if nothing has changed - my last two phones have been Sony Cybershot branded phones, and I don't own a physical digital camera because my phone camera outperforms them hands down. It'll be a massive disappointment to go back down to a paltry un-lit 2MPs when Apple, really should have pulled their finger out.
In fact, now I think more about it - this is probably the killer app that will make me NOT buy an iPhone. Maybe they'll notice they're behind 99% of the rest of the market when it comes to imaging and do something with Version 3.
Pretty is just not good enough. 1.0 was hardly satisfying as a basic phone as even my, otherwise Apple fangirl, girlfriend can attest to (she's back to her old Nokia after a few months). From what I see here, 2.0 doesn't seem any different.
That and the battery doesn't hold its charge anymore, 8 months after purchase.
I'm holding out for a HTC/Android phone.
I might be interested if I could have it without a stupidly expensive contract.
I watched the whole keynote yesterday on delay (had to work).
I am a 1st gen iPhone user and have been quite happy with 95% of the phone. Most of the comments related to camera usage are silly - for a phone the quality is quite good actually for "snapshot" type pics. That said, I do wish it could zoom.
When I saw the keynote I was at first blown away by the pricing and the GPS (I knew 3G was coming). I am tempted, but I think I will be able to wait a abit.
One, the 1st iPhone is getting the new software.
Two, I would have loved to see 32GB. My theory here is that they always want the Touch to have double the memory of the highest iPhone - therefore since a 64GB Touch would be uber-expensive, they have held off upgrading the iPhone's memory.
Three, I need 3G to be enabled where I live for this to be compelling. Once this is done it will be very, very hard for me to look away.
I feel I need to group myself in with the iPhone fanboys here. The phone is easily the most well-made handheld I have ever used. The UI is really a UI, not just some cobbled together phone interface. Finally, of the features it lacks, the ONLY one I want to see if file transfer through either bluetooth or Wifi or both. Who thinks that will be in the AppStore at launch? ;)
Can I tether the new iPhone to my laptop (read: windows) to use as my internet connection ?
Man I was so hoping for a 32gb version, but twas not to be. Looks like I'm waiting.
I really want one, it all depends on how badly Rogers decides to rape us Canucks.
I have the original iPhone and I still love it. I will not upgrade to the 3g until they have 3g networks in my area... makes sense huh?
Yeah a second one is going to be good. Jailbreaking straight away.... is there any news on if its hackable, i assume so seeing as it comes with 2.0
The iPhone is the crappiest phone i've ever had (and I change phones more often than my boxers..lol)!! Revolutionising the phone? WHICH PART????
3G/HSPDA data looks sweet - too bad I can't use it for anything "real" like uploading pictures from a real camera (thus "keep trying" :-) Fortunately there are real HSPDA phones like the E66 coming soon too...
I'll be upgrading to the 16GB model!
ok the $10 increase for data and same camera/no flash thing sucks, but people keep complaining about no mms, no copy/paste and no landscape keyboard in texting like its the phones fault...its not hardware...they have nothing to do with the new iphone...we knew it was running 2.0, those can still be changed in future updates
2 questions - any chance of importing an overseas model with no contract and it working here? and couldnt you buy the iphone, then just switch to a BB plan without returning the phone, swap the sims?
Given that my current contract will be up in a few months, the awesome £35 contract on O2 is alot better than what I am currently getting (includes 600 min, 500 txt and unlimited data) and it's only 18 month, I;d say hell yeah.
I have never sent an MMS in my life (too expensive) and I have a digital camera for taking photos, it's the portable web browsing combined with a GPS system that I'm interested in. And for £99, who can say no?
I think that the crazy monopolistic pricing be cell phone companies are to blame here now, and not so much Apple (although I imagine Apple makes a lot of money from the plans). I still think the best way to operate is the model in the rest (most) of the world: people pay for the cell phones, and pay very little for the plan. You can get whatever phone you want, and whatever service. I know everyone knows this model, but I feel it must be said again that it works best. Monopoly = bad, and can kill a good product (i.e. iPhone 3G)
No for a couple of reasons. No, in Canada it will be on Rogers. Rogers is the devil (it is why they use red all the time). They overcharge on data rates by a extreme amount, and I am planning to buy out of my contract with them. They are the only GSM carrier in Canada (owns Fido). No MMS (most of my friends/family can't receive email on their phones), and I use it all the time. Rotate email/sms into landscape PLEASE! I already have a hard time typing emails on my iPod Touch in portrait. The lack of a keyboard makes this especially important. And finally no stereo bluetooth, means no wireless headphones means useless for me.
Whats the point of O2 putting free on their £75 on 8 an 16GB? On O2 site, they have it with individual boxes! hmmmmmmm i wonder which model im choosin..................
lol
Do none of you people know that all the shortcomings (no mms, no vid recording, no copy, cut, paste etc) is all SOFTWARE therefore can be added via software updates or better yet by 3rd party applications.
I bet all of you my left nut that these will all be available in the next few weeks, months. I know so.
The 3G iphone is a need, not a want! ask everyone you know, they'll tell you so.
I was all excited and planned to rush out and buy my first iPhone. Now I don't really give a damn about it. It's pretty much a re-hash of the first phone with 3G and gps added. Most likely the GPS won't be text-to-speech so it won't really be useful in the car. If it was Stevie would have mentioned that.
Now more deets are coming from ATT that if you're not elligible for an upgrade you'll be paying much more than $199 or $299 AND on top of that the unlimited data plan has gone up to $30 per month.
With that bullshiite from ATT it is now stupid for me to spend that much money for an iphone.
I'm glad I'm going to be saving money now with my current phone. No way to justify purchasing an iPhone. Yeah for my savings account!
> resale price on your iPhone is now approximately nil
Checkout the price on taobao.com
I like it but I want that price without the contract. It's stupid to have an iphone for 199 and an almost exactly same itouch for more. Apple didn't exactly think this through. Especially with the whole activation in-store. I love apple, but this is ridiculous.
When it comes out in Belgium, unless the price is horrific (that's possible), then I'll definitely be getting one. That the iPhone was coming to Belgium had pretty much made me decide to get one (my existing phone is about 5-years old) but the addition of GPS means this is a no-brainer for me now. So, yes, this looks like a good job by Apple.
Also I figured the reason why Apple didn't put A2DP into the iPhone is because theres not a lot of devices that are bluetooth headsets ( with a microphone) and also a stereo headset.
I did a search and i only found the plantronics Voyager 855. I'm still searching if you'd still need a A2DP dongle
i hated the fact that the iPhone didn't have 3G, now it does and i never expected it to have 3.5G (even better!). with 3.5G and Wi-Fi packed into it my only concern about it is battery life and the fact that you cant change the battery. i also like that it works with my Microsoft office apps.
i was hoping for a better camera and i'm also waiting for the X1
since the 3g network isn't available in my hometown and i have a tomtom. i don't see a point in getting the new iphone. i have the 1.0 and it does me just fine. the 2.0 software update will be good to old iphone users. $10 a month extra will add up very quickly. so far 3 negatives and no positives. old iphone > new 3g iphone.
All I have to say is that every one was saying the same bs about the iPhone 1.0 and three or four months down the line I cant go outside without seeing at least ten iPhones a day. True some hardware features are a little out dated but for the most part like it or not the iPhone has changed the mobile world in a huge way. Every mobile manufacturer has some time of iPhone clone in the works and the iPhone has one thing that really no other mobile phone has and that the ability to A.) restore the phone on your own terms and B.) a hell of a lot better upgrade firmware upgrade packages than oh lets say nokia which is the only other first party hardware manufacturer that has the ability to upgrade its firmware. I know a lot of you are really truely jealous of this phone thats why you talk so much Sh!t, but at the end of the day I garauntee that once you get a chance to get your grubby little mittens on this phone you will be hooked for hours playing with your buddies brand new iPhone while he thinks you are a jerk cause youre too damn cheap or stubborn to go buy your own. And I must say that verizon has A. the crapiest commercials known to man and B. the worst handsets this side of mississippi. I would rather go buy a cell phone in the deepest darkest parts of mexico than buy a phone from verizon. By the way I am in no way an apple fan boy. I love windows vista and all it has to offer and I think that apple is seriously one of the stingiest companies out there although one of the richest too. I know cause I used to work for them. But lets face it guys they are really d@mn innovative when it comes to hardware. And to those of you verizon people out there, stop blogging cause nobody wants to hear about your 3 yrs behind piece of crap cell phone that nobody else in the entire world would by or sell.
I got a iPhone in February this year, signed up to a 18 month contract and it works perfectly for me in my situation, but I would not be stupid enough to say it would be the same for anybody else. Of course their are one or two foibles (like anything you buy) but you soon learn to adapt, now I have just received an email from O2 to say they will update my iPhone for free, and give me a cheap second card for my old iPhone. All I have to do is extend my contract by 11 months, big deal. The firm I work for pay the bill. Neat
iPhone 1st Gen owners can still get big money for their phones on eBay because Apple isn't selling iphones online anymore and the new iPhones have to be activated upon purchase. Sell your old used 8GB 2G iPhone on eBay for the average amount of $355 and buy a new $299 16GB 3G iPhone. Then, put the few extra dollars toward the higher data plan fee for the next 2 years or so and you're farther ahead with a better and bigger iPhone. You win and the person overseas using your old iPhone wins too. A Win/Win situation.