EFiX wants to bring OSX86 to the masses

Word in the OSX86 world is that a new product will revolutionize (and simplify) the process of installing OS X on a PC -- and that product is called the EFiX. The USB dongle allegedly pops into a free port and allows you to install the retail version of the Mac operating system on just about any system by automatically locating the proper hacks and drivers needed. Famed OSX86 hacker Netkas has demoed a beta unit on video (which you can see after the break) and claims that it's working as it should. The manufacturer is aiming to have models available for purchase by June 23rd... barring any more "sabotage." This sounds like a much more reasonable solution than marketing a Mac clone -- feel free to send one our way whenever you like guys.

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[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 4:06AM]

@ MoonMan: My father was a MBZ/BMW technician for 20 years. BMW cars are built like crap. They handle poorly for their price range. Their failure rate is THROUGH THE ROOF. And most of them leak like pigs. I drive an MBZ, my father has only driven BMW and Mercedes for the past 20 years. I can say, with a great degree of certainty, that you sir, are an IDIOT. Apple is not like BMW. Apple computers are like Lotus. Fast, light, not the most powerful, and generally more expensive than normal. (I am a mac/pc dual user. I love both, but If i had to pick one, Mac stays, PC goes)

Toyota cars are reliable, cheap for parts (comparing to BMW), and do their job very well (CARS ARE FOR TRANSPORT). Hondas are much the same way.

@ Hamidxa: Agree almost 100%, except for the part about apple users not knowing the ins and outs of their computers. I use apple computers quite a lot. I have built 4 windows systems from the ground up (all for gaming), starting in 1999 when i was still in elementary school. I am not an expert... but i certainly do know how a computer works at a fairly advanced level. I know my computers. Please do not for one second think that ALL mac users have no clue how computers work. Many of us CHOSE mac over PC after years of working with PCs. I have many friends/acquaintances in IT who chose mac because they know how pitiful windows is. The OPERATING System is the key to the mac. Specs mean shit when comparing to windows PCs, because PCs are held back by the bloatware crap that is Windows (essentially an operating system from 1993 [NT 3.1] with a few new features and a pretty new theme) Yes, the OS on macs is slightly less feature-rich but it is more than sufficient for 99% of users (other than gaming of course).

The fact that Apple even exists... with it's crippling hardware restrictions and wallet-emptying price markups on off the shelf components... illustrates just how bad windows is. Now Windows 7, I like where that is going. If they do it right... i might just go back to windows for gaming and work. But while XP and Vista (ie NT 5.1 and NT 6) are still dominant... windows will remain the inferior operating sytstem. Just my $.02

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 11:44AM]

Jimmy,

With all due respect, let's not hyperbolize or sensationalize any disparity between Windows and Mac OS X here by touting that Apple exists for the very reason that Windows is inadequate.

Despite any inadequacies, the fact remains that Windows based systems are outright DOMINATING the market, to the point where there OS X and its zealous followers haven't even put a dent into the PC market.

Take a look at the notebook sector for example:
http://www.displaysearch.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-0A424DE8-8D4C17E8/displaysearch/hs.xsl/6805.asp

Apple "commands" 4.6% of the market, 4.6%!

In other words, for every 1 person out there who finds fault with Windows, there are 20 others who more or less embrace it.

If you want to start talking about inadequacies, it would be worth examining those figures for starters.

[psyclotron Posted Jun 14th 2008 5:49PM]

It's 4.6! It's 4.6! Didn't you hear? It's 4.6!!! Pay attention to me!!!! WAHHHHH (commence two dozen additional posts proselytizing like a schizophrenic street preacher)

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 6:51PM]

Toyota are alot more reliable than BMWs (google it i dare you)
Lexus are also Toyotas so you really don't make alot of sense.

P.S Most expensive custom PCs look easily as good as macs except they look like I want them to.

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 1:31AM]

God bless Netkas.

I bought a Psystar without any software preloaded (except for Ubuntu).

I had no idea how to get Leopard on there and tried different things before stumbling upon the great mac hack community. WOW. Took some brain-work but I finally nailed it down.

And I gotta say, I LOVE my Psystar. It led directly to me learning how to roll my own Mac and I feel confident I could make one at will. When you price out the components, yes you can get a better processor (and everything else) for the 600$ I spent (now I know) but this thing is zippier than any Mac I've ever owned (and I have owned many and fix Macs/PCs for a living).

[As for Software Updates, I've been a Mac healer long enough to have seen regular Software Updates outright kill some aspect of the computer or hard drive so I never blindly update anyway -- my process for updating the "open computer" isn't that much more complicated than the one I was having to do to safeguard against a normal update going awry. Sure sure, I've had friends/people who say "well, I'VE never had a problem with an update" .... at least until it takes their battery life from 3 hours down to 15 minutes. Oh, that was a good one]

So frankly, I'm thrilled with my machine and now I can do it myself. Netkas et al providedthe brilliance. I do worry that the easier it is to do, the sooner Apple may come in and crush it. I just pray they let it live... I've dreamt of hybrid computing for years now.

[Kizorblade Posted Jun 14th 2008 1:53AM]

I'm agreeing with phanbouy. Hamidxa: Go away. If you don't like OS X then I do not see ANY reason for you to be here at all. No I don't care if you hate Apple. Go away.

[Gex Posted Jun 14th 2008 4:37AM]

I like Hamidxa's posts... a sense of reality...a shock to the distortion field..voice of reason ;)

I have not read his other posts outside of this topic but he is not totally off base with his points.

[soddice Posted Jun 14th 2008 10:24AM]

I love Hamixda's posts. They are actually a voice of something that isnt saying BUY OSX IT ROCKS YEAH YEAH.

Besides, telling someone to "get the fuck out" over an article and saying THEY'RE overreacting?

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 2:17AM]

Am I the only one who noticed jason in this one?

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 4:09AM]

no i saw it too. very well placed imho.

[derwin Posted Jun 14th 2008 2:47AM]

Hahaha is that Jason hiding in the Dock?

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 4:29PM]

Can't we all just get along!?

[psyclotron Posted Jun 14th 2008 5:08PM]

no, someone uses different software from me and that will not stand

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 5:53AM]

Can anyone tell me what the fuss about OS X is? I've used to for almost a year in school. But a few weeks ago I just bought a laptop with Vista on it because I just couldnt get used to OS X even after a year. It looks really nice and it runs like a dream. But so does Vista. Before that I was using XP and that ran nice and smooth too.

OS X had a few things I really like like expose. But you could install that on Vista too. In fact I am using switcher now to mimic expose and I really love it. I've seen vids on youtube where people were totally customizing their Vista to look and run like OS X so whats the fuss? Vista has everything OS X has like the dock, expose and much more. And it absolutely runs like a dream on my computer. It never crashed and every application runs nice and smooth.

Anyway I went for Vista because I couldnt get used to OS X. I found it to be too proprietary while I had much more freedom in Vista to do things. But both run really nice and smooth. So props to both of them. And I actually never had problems XP either. What are the problems you guys are talking about

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 6:35AM]

I knew that picture looked familiar ... That's MY laptop! http://southpole.dk/?page=blog&id=5

Couldnt someone at least have told me?

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 6:41AM]

I've been tri-booting Vista XP & Leopard X86 on an old 3Ghz P4/i865/2GB ram and its been fine.
No driver problems (NVinject sorted my 7900GS full core image and quartz excelleration) at all as long as you use intel chipsets (like apple)
If they launched the OS the hardware manufacturers would write drivers, Apple could certify them, not a hard thing at all.
I prefer to build my own PCs because i know what I'm doing and don't need el Jobs to tell me what I need, the iTards will still buy macs because they want the simplicity of a pre-built system. If macs are more stable running OSX then people will buy more macs after being converted to OSX on their PC.

Hopefully projects like this that make it easier than ever to run OSX on PCs will put pressure on Apple and give them no choice but to release their OS into the wild, its the only way they will rule the world.

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 7:00AM]

I think apple would release it to the masses if they could figure out how to monetize the move. They've started with itunes, garage band updates etc. but thats not close enough. they have to figure out how to recover the costs of development and make profit off of that.
it would be cool if they released old versions but the elite could pay for the latest. Like get 10.0 for free but pay for 10.5. that would leave a nice gap so that the payees would have a reason to do so.
but i doubt that it will happen.
why fix it if it ain't' broke.

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 6:54PM]

How would they monetize the move ?

Ummm ever noticed that Microsoft manage to make a living from their OS division ?

They don't make it for free you know a portion of the price of a mac goes to OSX development just like the $99 boxed copies do.
Release is for $150-$250 for PCs let mac users buy at a discount as support will be simpler.

[raulb Posted Jun 14th 2008 7:16AM]

Maybe its time for Apple to release a low cost notebook to get people using OSX without resorting to hacks since there is clearly some interest. What could be better marketing than that to give people a taste of OSX in an accessible low cost way without changing your OS wholesale from Windows.

They already have some traction with iPhone, this way a lot more user can sample OSX, using it for web surfing as these small notebooks are used mainly for and give Apple an opportunity to pull customers away from Windows at least for internet use.

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 8:05AM]

I like OSX as an operating system, however Apple have gone the wrong way about it. OSX although good will never gain a big market share if Apple keep it on closed, overpriced hardware. And I think these stories show that there is a huge market for desktops that run OSX and can be upgraded hardware wise over time.

I like OSX but will never buy a Mac until Apple become a good business and open their OS up, Apple mocks Microsoft for this, and microsoft got handed almost a billion euro fine for not opening their programs and OS code for 3rd party developers, Apple does it and is protected by seemingly every fanboy on the face of the planet

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 11:15AM]

So this JAS OSX.iso where can i find it? Preferably rapidshare, I've found lots of links but NONE have a working part.29. I have a REAL copy of OSX so i think its only fair I have a legal copy as back up too ;-)

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 11:46AM]

Guys I've asked this nicely but I did not get a straight up answer. But once again whats the fuss about OS X. Please tell me..

[Erik Posted Jun 14th 2008 2:00PM]

The fuss with OSX is pretty simple (in my opinion).

It's a really well-written OS that, unfortunately, hasn't been exposed [officially] to any non-Apple hardware. Thanks to the pricing on their hardware, Apple makes a tidy profit. But what keeps people buying the hardware is the fact that OSX only runs on approved systems. As long as Apple has this perception of exclusivity about them, people will continue to buy the overpriced hardware.

On the software itself, being a Unix-based system, OSX is more secure than the Windows OS, but again, there is disagreement about whether this is due to its *nix roots or its market share.

Personally, I don't really care what OS I'm running, but for the machines I buy, I go with Windows-based, since they are generally far cheaper than equivalent Mac counterparts.

There's my 2¢.

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 12:18PM]

WOW! All of the Windows and Linux fanboys need to realize where they are. This is a comments section to an article about OS X, NOT WINDOWS OR LINUX! There are millions of other articles about windows and ubuntu. This is an article about running OS X on PC hardware. Why cant you just be happy that people now have another option? Does every comments section have to turn into a battle zone? For that matter, does anyone really care about your "15-30 years of experience" on an opinion based question? No...no one wants to hear your lifestory...in the end its an opinion, so STFU and comment about the actual subject of the article.
here, ill give u an example of what not to say:
I've been working with windows since dos 2.0 came out and i can assure you that with my 20 years of experience that windows is a much more stable environment that either OS X or any linux distribution

FAIL!

Here is a good example of what TO say:
Wow thats great! I wonder how much its going to cost?

[psyclotron Posted Jun 14th 2008 2:07PM]

didn't you hear? using OSX makes baby jesus cry

[jashsayani Posted Jun 14th 2008 1:16PM]

Does this support Intel 915 GM ?

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 7:26PM]

915 yes (ran it myself)
865 yes (also)
945 (yes also)

[jashsayani Posted Jun 15th 2008 4:23AM]

Cost....?

[Richard Posted Jun 14th 2008 1:22PM]

If this device solves the wireless card driver and graphics driver problem then I'm totally sold!

[Shelbz Posted Jun 14th 2008 2:41PM]

I will take my Macbook Pro over any laptop on the market but I would use this in a heartbeat to build me a REASONABLY priced Mac Desktop.

If Apple would just release an $800-1000 desktop that is component upgradeable this would eliminate devices such as these but Steve Jobs has his head up his ass in this regard.

I am on both sides of the fence, I loved XP but Vista drove me to a Mac, I have a Macbook Pro, Mac Mini, HP TC 4400 tablet for work, and a custom built PC for Vista (now XP.)

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 4:46PM]

I love that he still uses a floppy drive in his computer :-D

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 7:25PM]

@phanbouy

Its 4.9 its 4.9 its 4.9 [ commence running to an optician for an eye test]

[psyclotron Posted Jun 14th 2008 8:59PM]

dude... i didnt know there's a kind of dyslexia you could see 6's upsidedown as 9's

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 7:46PM]

this should be interesting to see if it is indeed as easy/hassle free to install and use as the article claims.

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 14th 2008 8:06PM]

it is most likely this device will need specific close-to-mac hardware - like AMD will not be supported - see here: http://news.metaparadigma.de/?p=288

[Barron Posted Jun 14th 2008 10:36PM]

86 bit?

[FritzJ92 Posted Jun 15th 2008 4:38PM]

Dual Boot ViSta, and MAC.... "See Mac We Can Do It Too"...

[jashsayani Posted Jun 15th 2008 4:22AM]

We have to connect the USB dongle only for installation or for every boot.?

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 15th 2008 1:07PM]

How can you take a laptop that represents all that is holy in this world, and put OSX on it?

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 15th 2008 8:39PM]

omg. this video made me crack up so many times..
what's that accent?

my favorite part is when he goes:
"whoo! hoo! it booted!!!"

oh, nvm about the accent..
im guessing its russian

[GoonieGooGoo Posted Jun 16th 2008 2:19PM]

I think what Hamidxa is arguing about is not the actual OSes itself....

But rather what APPLE has evolved into.......

If you think the APPLE of today is the same as the lovable underdog computer of the 80s & 90s....you are sorely mistaken.

Apple did use to represent everyone that was different creative and artistically. They were the anti-IBM. They had the Motto THINK DIFFERENT.

Amazingly.....through their PR and catering to the Stylistos and dependence on fashionable hardware and ITunes/IPod profits....they have become the exact thing they used to fight against. To say that their products are marketed as elitist would not be an understatement.

Ah well........I will always fondly remember the rainbow APPLE over the new white/silver Soulless APPLE.

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 17th 2008 6:08AM]

I've been running OSX on my non-Apple PC for a while now and it was really smooth install using the Leo4All V3 version floating somewhere on the 'net. Of course, the more your specs deviate from real Macs the more problems you're going to run into. Especially those crummy onboard soundcards many use are going to pose problems. On my system the SB X-Fi PCI soundcard I have is not working but my Echo AudioFire4 FireWire audio interface works great. At the moment the only real problem is with shutdown (has to be manually turned off from computer power button after selecting shutdown) due to changes in 10.5.3.

I'm happily running both Vista and OSX on the same system on separate hard drives. Neither is faster than the other and both have their pluses and minuses. OSX takes the cake in easy program installation and better program setting storage (MS really should adopt this system). Vista does better in the file browsing and context-specific search areas but OSX presents search results in a better way. Windows has by far better video and audio players available than OSX (I like MPC and foobar2k much better than VLC/NicePlayer/Quicktime and iTunes/Cog/Songbird).

OSX programs generally look infinitely better than 99% of all Windows programs. This is really more a case of XP legacy though. It's also interesting how there are no OSX programs that are called "Advanced somethingsomething Deluxe Professional SX 10" or stupid shit like that. Most OSX programs are also auto-updating which is great because that means I don't have to keep up with new versions as much as I do on Windows.

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 17th 2008 2:09PM]

4 pages of comments I have to get mine in. This sounds awesome. I hope its as easy to use as it seems. I have an awesome pc case and I want to stay away from the metro apple computers but I do want the OS

[(Unverified) Posted Jun 20th 2008 2:16PM]

actually, there is a osx version out for AMD. please dont speak if u dont know what you are talking about... or atleast use google to find the right answer....

Leo4All V3
and several other version floating around will let you install it on a AMD system....
p.s. ac 97 sound drivers was easy to get working.. my presonus 24/96 firewire cards was very simple..... shutting down still issue.. but oh well if that the only issue i have with my dell/mac... laptop.. that still 10000000000000000000 times better than dell/vista... by the way vista sux!!!


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[Landwomble Posted Jun 23rd 2008 4:38PM]

i've just got it working on my X61. No networking yet, but give me a spare hour and I'll have that working too.
Search the usual Bittorrent sites for Kalyway 10.5.2 and you'll get a download that you can boot off and it'll pretty much just work if you have compatible hardware. Seriously weird and cool to see Leopard running on a teeny thinkpad...

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