We get that rising gas prices are putting folks in a
world of hurt, but has it really gotten so bad that we're resorting to
losing our dignity riding Segways? According to a recent writeup in
The Wall Street Journal, "sales at Segway Inc. have risen to an all-time high," and CEO Jim Norrod fully expects sales this quarter to "jump 50% from a year earlier." Not surprisingly, many of its new customers are
universities and
public service divisions who are replacing traditional vehicles with the all-electric scooters, but we still get the impression that individuals are steering clear due to its remarkably high price and laughable design. At least, that's what we'll continue to tell ourselves.
posted Jun 16th 2008 8:54AM
Segway FTW! Any idiot can ride it! (Except George Bush... Check YouTube)
Alas, I cannot find it on YouTube, but here's a link: http://www.bikexprt.com/witness/product/bushfalls.htm
Segway sales hit all time high. In a related story, virginity is through the roof!
That's what Piers Morgan said, then he fell off one and broke his ribs.
So they sold two instead of one per quarter?
Nah dude - sales are up 50%. So they've sold 1 and a half.
So for almost the same amount of money, you would buy this instead of an electric golf cart because...?
Um, because you use a golf cart for getting around the city? You can't ride a golf cart on the sidewalks or in the street?
And because..... dude, it's a Segway!
you can't ride a Sgway in the street either though...and they said a lot of this was attributable to college campuses buying them so...
you can't ride a Segway in the street either though...and they said a lot of this was attributable to college campuses buying them so...
Okay, as one of the few people posting here who actually owns a car, bicycle, and YES a Segway, let me briefly recount my experiences using each method (as well as public transportation and walking) commuting 3 miles to work in Washington DC:
* Car: Driving 3 miles to work takes about 8 minutes. Oh, I'm sorry, are you looking for a time quote DURING rush hour? Oh. Well in that case, it takes 20-30 minutes. During the summer, it's also 90+ degrees here, which means I am burning through the $4.15 gallon of gas far more quickly than the 25 mpg I'm supposed to get. When I finally get to work, I can park in a garage for around $10 (a good price for this city), or drive around for a while, find a meter somewhere, and keep pumping $1/hour in quarters into it all day (thus ruining my productivity at work as I constantly have to break my train of thought to go downstairs and feed the meter). Or I could just pay the $235/month for a monthly garage pass. Either way, we're talking lots of time, lots of gas, and lots of money for parking. SUMMARY: ~25 minutes, $10+ in parking and gas, NOT stinky when I get there. Initial cost: $12,000-40,000+, depending on how fancy you want to get.
* Bicycle: The most common response when people find out I have a Segway is, "Why didn't you get a bike?" Well, I have a bike. Thing is, biking up and down hills for a few miles in 90 degree weather with swamp-like humidity tends to cause incredible levels of perspiration and general stinkiness. What a great way to start the day, huh? Sure, I could shower in the little locker room at work, but I don't always want to deal the logistical questions of bringing clothes to work, showering there, etc. That said, when I do take the bike, I go down hills at about 20 mph and up hills at about 8 mph. On average it takes about 15 minutes to go three miles. SUMMARY: ~15 minutes, no transportation cost, STINKY when I get there. Initial cost: $200-2,500+, depending on how fancy you want to get.
* Public transportation: I don't live near the Metro (subway), so my only option is to take the bus. Some people might like waiting 20 minutes in the heat for three city buses to arrive in a clump, and then standing crammed in there like sardines for the next 25 minutes while drunken homeless men breath on you. I don't. SUMMARY: ~45 minutes, $1.35 in fare (one way), not TOO stinky when I get there (but have to deal with a lot of stink on the way). Initial cost: NONE.
* Walking: I always love how health-minded we Engadget nerds get when confronted with the prospect of riding a Segway around. "What ever happened to WALKING?" ask Comic Book Guy lookalikes who rarely venture out of their basement. But let's be fair and examine walking as an alternative. Sometimes, when it's a really beautiful day, say 65-70 degrees and sunny with a light breeze, I'll walk home from work. It only takes about 50 minutes and sometimes I stop off at the bookstore. How pleasant. Problem is, I don't generally like to take my sweet time walking TO work in the morning. Also, the weather is not usually as cooperative. DC humidity will make dress clothes stick to your body in about 10 minutes. SUMMARY: ~50 minutes, no transportation cost, KINDA stinky when I get there. Initial cost: NONE.
* Segway: At its top speed of 12.5 mph, you can glide a mile (silly as it may be, that's the verb we use) in about five minutes. When you throw in waiting at crosswalks, it takes about 17 minutes to go 3 miles. Going downhill, I am passed by bicycles. Going uphill, I pass every bicycle. Either way, I never break a sweat. Riding the thing is incredibly fun, and after a while you tend to not notice the fact that people are staring. (Note: Most stares/shout-outs are of the "Holy crap it's a Segway!" variety, as opposed to "Holy crap it's a Nerd!" variety.) I lock the Segway up against a pole outside and set the alarm. Don't have to worry about changing clothes. SUMMARY: ~17 minutes, a few cents in electricity to charge it (takes about 10 cents to fully charge and gets 20 miles on a charge), NOT stinky when I get there. Initial cost: $4,500-5,500, depending on how fancy you want to get.
(I cannot compare driving a scooter (Vespa, etc.) because I haven't done that. Scooter get very good mpg so that saves you money, but you also have to buy insurance so that more than cancels out any savings. You also have to deal with traffic, and the fact that some people wouldn't really feel safe driving a light motorcycle around the city.)
Anyway, that's the breakdown. I've absolutely loved my Segway and put on about 600 miles in the year I've had it. It's not a perfect solution (not as fun to ride in the rain or cold), but it's better than most I've found!
Plenty more Segway thoughts (including a story of my most recent crash) at blog: http://www.beforeisleep.net/labels/segway.html
Matt
Nono, you're misunderstanding.
The segway is not an alternative to a Golf Cart.
It is a $5000 alternative to WALKING at a moderately brisk pace. Not even running, just walking a little quick.
Having your quarter up 50% year-over-year following the single worst year of your company's history? Well done.
@Brad: 12 miles per hour is a "relatively brisk" walk to you?
Funny, that's an all-out sprint to anybody else.
I'll say it again: Segways are NOT used as a replacement for walking. They are used as a replacement for other modes of transportation such as cars, bikes, etc. (See my comparative analysis above.)
Matt, like I said before, why the hell wouldn't you get a golf cart for almost the same price? Not only does it go faster but some have roofs (for inclimate weather) and you never have to worry about pedestrians getting in your way because you can just mow them down. AND you don't look like a complete tool riding one. (Don't throw me the street argument because golf carts and Segways get about the exact same treatment, only real difference between the two is the parking situation).
Dave, I don't know how to argue with that. The fact that you are honestly comparing a Segway to a golf cart is incredibly amusing to me. Let us agree to disagree. You can buy a golf cart if you want to mow people down in the rain. I will stick with my Segway. :-)
That's all I was looking for :)
"laughable design"? I thought it was an ingenious design that we simply berated because it was associated with uber-geeks. (a categorization that wouldn’t fit anyone who reads a technology blog, right?) So help me out, I need to get my story strait… where’s “well designed” one that puts this into the laughable category?
Very good point. If Engadget were to receive one for free they would def be all giddy about the design. Hey anything that prmotes cheaper transportation im all for. Id love to have one to wisk around my town in.
Shoes promote cheaper transportation.
were it glossy white and designed in Cupertino, the reviews would be different.
Every time I see our campus security officers riding around on these things issuing tickets, it pisses me off. These things cost 5000-6000 dollars a pop, and I don't agree with my tuition money going towards such a frivolous item. Why can't they just ride bikes?
Segways are frustrating because they represent a complex solution to a simple problem. If this thing had 4 or even 3 wheels, it wouldn't need thousands of dollars of computer engineering technology inside of it to keep the unit balanced and upright during use. The other piece of technology that Segway recently presented (that moving platform with wheels that move in two directions only, but can move in all directions) is another example of their "more is more" philosophy. Great, you invented a moving platform with wheels that don't have to turn. Now what? How is that better than having wheels that turn? How do you justify the cost? Segways are the ultimate example of a gimmick, and until someone can convince me that 2 wheels are better than 3, I will continue to think that they're a useless product.
John, I'm currently looking into Segways in Japan.
Why? Because I can't walk well. I have a hip problem which forces me in a brace, and to waddle like a penguin.
Instead of riding a bike, which I can't pedal, my family wants me to get a Segway.
The design is compact, and I can use it on the streets, and I can also get it into my dorm without much of a problem. They're not an awkward shape.
I agree they look weird, but they are extremely easy to control, easier than my dirtbike, and easier than a moped. I simply do not want to be confined to an electric wheelchair when I can still walk, just not as well as everyone else.
The design brings ease of use, at least for me. I'll be able to use it to go shopping and do basic tasks, and it's worth the money, because I don't have to pay for gas, it fits where I need it to go, and what takes you 20 minutes of walk time takes me an hour.
That doesn't change that these are largely frivolous. Campus police, I would suspect, are required to be capable of riding a bike since you gotta leave the segway sooner or later
(different John, fyi)
John,
Bicycles can be useful for campus security, but they do have their limitations:
1. Not everyone is capable of riding a bicycle around all day every day.
2. Segways are much more maneuverable through crowds.
3. Segways don't have a problem going through grass or mud.
As for the two wheels and small footprint, those make it more maneuverable than vehicles with more wheels. I can understand why someone who has never tried a Segway just wouldn't appreciate how valuable that could be.
There is something to be said about police who can stay at top form and leap into action chasing someone on a segway vs. racing around on a bike. Not sure how big a difference it might make, the cop might be afraid to leave it if the guy starts jumping fences. :)
I like the design of the Segway. It is simple and functional.
I want one of the off-road ones.
I've never ridden a Segway, but I have seen them in use enough to at least have an opinion about them.
While it is far from perfect, I do not see why Engadget and others slam the unit as they do. It fits a certain need in the public sector quite well - albeit small - and does so adequately. It seems like the criticism stems from the Segway not being exactly what many people wanted it to be.
If I had any legitimate complaint with Kamen, it is that the unit was over-hyped before its release.
If the product was THAT bad, it would be gone years ago. Instead, they are constantly upgrading/improving it and have not given up on the project like other pioneers sometimes do.
It's a brilliant design, the trouble is riding it makes you look like a complete berk!
i would fricken love to have a segway.
Only Jackie Chan can look cool on a Segway.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/04/in-other-news-jackie-chan-sells-segways/
Well apparently he chose not to in the picture you just linked us to.
Jackie Chan can look cool on anything...
I laugh when I hear people who have never ridden one talk about how lame you will look riding one. People mock what they don't understand. Yes, I do have one and have been commuting to work two days a week now for over a month (17.6 miles one way). I did not buy it to save on gas. Fortunately, I can afford to fill my car with fuel, at least for now. I did it because I wanted to be able to ride my bicycle home from work when I ride the Segway to work.
I used to think driving to work was not too stressful...until I got the Segway. Now I glide (get used to that term) up our local trail almost the entire way. I arrive at work feeling good about my commute even though it takes me about an hour more than driving. I feel good because I know I am going to exercise to get home, I saved about a gallon of gas each way, and there is a little less carbon in the atmosphere.
Keep nay saying about these types of technologies. It is people like you who are the ones making excuses why you cannot change your life.
I spent an afternoon on one and I was blown away by how fun it was. For a bunch of geeky gagdeteers, am surprised that the editors would shy away form something that provided such a great user experience in the face of a "cool" factor.
Umm, so how do you get it home? Or do you cycle back to work the next morning to return with your Segway in the evening? Just curious of the logistics (and your insurance - doesn't seem all that hard to nick one of these, and leaving anything at work is always asking for trouble).
You still didn't explain what we "don't understand." No one is on their soapbox about how horrible these things are and what harm they cause. That'd be idiotic. I'm very happy for you that it allows you to exercise and put less carbon in the atmosphere and stuff.
You still look lame with/using/riding/driving it, and I'd still feel that way if this device HADN'T become a staple of nerd stereotypes. But I feel that way about emo haircuts, FJ Cruisers, Honda Pilots, Crocs, Lenovos, Zunes, and so on.
So please continue to campaign about how good it is for society, the planet, and your personal health. And everyone who thinks you still look lame riding it will continue to NOT ARGUE WITH YOU because our only axe to grind is how it looks and how people look operating it.
Live long and prosper, young Jedi.
If you had ever ridden one, you would understand.
Laughable design?
Sort of like your comment system?
YO ENGADGET WHAT HAPPENED TO HIGHEST AND LOWEST RANKINGS?
my motivation to post completely facetious comments has dropped tenfold...
If you'd look at the comment above yours, you'd see that highest ranking is back.
couldnt agree more
damnit, where is the edit button on this bastardized comment system?
why isnt my avatar showing up?
Segways are a great technology, however extremely poor customer service, the truth is no customer care.
Problem with engadget is there is a major clash of egos with the readers.
DonYorke, I just have to agree. Except in the very, very, very, very few cases where Engadget editors actually have something intelligent or funny to say, they should just stick to the facts. If they want to be geniuses they could try building a relate-able database of the discrete aspect of every device that could be used by readers(similar to storagereview), but that would be a bit of a stretch for these peanut gallery heroes.
This a blog, not the news section of the Washington Post. Get over yourselves!
That must be one hell of a pizza in a box that big...
Is Segway really that cost-effective at $5k? People talk about hybrid being cost-effective if gas prices stay this high after 1.5-2 years. For me, the Segway wouldn't be cost-effective at these gas prices till over 3 years. I'll admit riding one is FUN, but I likely looked like an idiot too.
I get the Segway home by driving it home in the car. Here's how it works:
Monday - Bring bicycle to work in car
Tuesday - Segway to work, bicycle home
Wednesday - Bicycle to work in car, Segway home in car
Thursday - Segway to work, bicycle home
Friday - Car to work Segway home in car
I do not ride the bicycle to work since there are no facilities to clean up. In the Florida heat, I get pretty funky from a ride that long. Leaving the Segway at work is not a problem for me. We only have 7 people working here and it's an ultra-casual environment. We also have a high-end security system at work, so I feel better leaving it here than my own house.
Damn, I want a pizza now.
I think the real problem with segways is that it covers a market that can be covered by trainers, trainers costing a thirtieth of the price however.
Not to mention that trainers are better for you due to the exercise, plus you draw less attention to yourself and avoid criticism. Lastly, you don't have to find a place to put your trainers and you don't have to worry them being stolen.
If you could give me either an affordable segway, a segway thats more appealing to the young crowd (such as myself), or a segway that gives me some sort of exercise somehow (yes, bicycles do exist, though some migration of the two might be an idea), you may have yourself another customer. The way I see it though, there are just too many reasons not to buy one at the moment.
What happened to walking> It is faster
Karen Fabbrini
LOL! Yes, walking 17 miles to work @ average 3MPH on 90+ degree weather. "Yes sir, I know I stink and am late, but I deserve that raise, right?"
Bottom line - these devices DO have a place - congested cities. Living in DC is nearly unbearable if all you have is a car (30min to go 2miles just isn't worth it). And this is the only device that is LEGAL on sidewalks/path systems - a scooter is regulated for the congested aggressive-driver-laden streets only
I have personally put over 15k miles on my Segway in the last 2years. The point that people such as yourself are missing is that this ISN'T a substitute for WALKING. As clearly seen by sales figures, it is a replacement for DRIVING. And quite honestly which is lazier - sitting in a car eating one's McGriddle and Hashbrown or standing up for several miles maneuvering though the city?
"(30min to go 2miles just isn't worth it)"
Why would you take the car to only go two miles anyway?
Unless, obviously, you're disabled or some similar thing.
Who are all these magical FitnessPeople (TM) who have infinite time and don't bat an eye at walking two miles to the grocery store?
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about!
I bought a scooter, 80MPG and while it is a scooter it looks better than a Segway.
I thought it was practically illegal to ride anywhere in public. I've seen law enforcement agencies and campus security riding them, but the Segway doesn't seem to fit anywhere for general transportation. It seems as though there was a conspiracy to prevent it's use by the general public. Segways do appear to rather vulnerable to other vehicles, including bikes. Very little protection offerered front and rear on standard models. No crumple zones.
BAM! 3RD WHEEL!
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=segway_more_complicated_than_it_needs_to_be
There's a reason there are no successful three-wheel segway clones on the market. Without the auto-balancing systems, you'd need a really long footprint like a scooter to prevent you from flipping over when you came to a sudden stop after going 12 mph.
mmm....alternatives and the glory of the price system.
Well, for those who commutes 17 miles to work or those who are unable to walk, ignore my comment
Humans were born with legs and it is free, low maintenance, easy to use, convenient, doesn't take up much space, and free from style-related drawbacks and generalisations. What's more, it'll even stop the world from becoming fatter if more people cared to move by themselves a little more
I don't see any laughable design on that, plus I don't think that riding it makes you look like an idiot. In my opinion a guy riding and 'sitting' on those cult motorbikes with unuseful long high handles, those look very idiot to me. I'm quiet happy to see always more 'green' and silent segways here in Italy and maybe one day I can afford buying one.
I'm liking the "Thanks OPEC!" title, as if OPEC is responsible for our rising gas prices. The majority of people believed that nonsense about a year ago when Bill O'Reilly and the rest of the media were going on their OPEC-is-gouging-us rampage, but that crowd has dwindled to around 24% (as of the latest polls) since people started figuring out that there are other countries outside of the US who use oil too.
Apparently Engadget is about a year behind the times, still remaining a market-forces-are-at-work denier.
A more appropriate title would be "Segway sales hit all time high, thanks Congress!"
For your viewing pleasure...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc_YsXuYIlc
When I was in school, campus security used as SUV in the winter and golf cards in the spring/fall. When it rained, you could put a cover over it and still drive it without getting wet unless you were in a storm. Worked out quite well with the golf cart...it's really quiet for use at night, easy to get in and out of, and has no learning curve if you can already drive a car.
Golf carts work well on a campus (although the "dork" factor is probably as high or higher than a Segway). They can shield you from the rain, they're easy to drive (as you say), and they carry a LOT more stuff than a Segway, including extra people. For this application they work great. The smaller editions even work well inside large malls.
You can't take 'em out of the area, though, since they don't work on public streets and sidewalks, but for many places this is a non-issue. I can't take one to work, though.
When the main article says "we" that would be an editorial "we." There's one (1) guy at Engadget who doesn't like Segways. 50% increase per year in a period of soaring gas prices sort of tells its own story.
Engadget can't be on the money on all things tech. Looks like maybe they're out of it here.
Yes, but what does this have to do with the iPhone 3G??
*(Just kidding, it just needed to be said)*
Laughable design? Really? Huh.
It's only a "laughable design" because the pretentious snob who wrote it can't afford it.
And all these people whining how "it would make me look like an idiot if I rode one" I got news for you brother, you already look like an idiot. A Segway isn't the factor. If you were ripped and dressed nice like me it wouldn't matter what you rode.
I'm thinking about getting one of these for commuting. Right now I spend about 3800 bucks a year in gas. I think I can cut that down to about 1200 bucks if I use this device and use the car during the days where the weather doesn't permit. Of course I could ride or walk to work but that's 6 miles. Riding a bike might be fast but we don't have shower facilities at the office. Richmond VA heat and humidity might just make this impossible. Walking would take longer and have the same sweaty ending. Using a moped/scooter is probably half the cost but I will still need to fill it up, get insurance, get license plates, tags, find a place to park it where it won't get stolen. Segway, 17mph, would get me to work in around 30 minutes. Wouldn't have to fill it up, just plug it in and it will fit in my cubicle. Now it may look silly, but no much more than riding a scooter.
For the people who say "Why don't you just walk". You have either never walked more than 5 miles or your don't get the concept of commuting to work in a timely manner. Now we all know that walking helps you excersice, this isn't a discussion in exercise it's a discussion in a daily commute to and from a place of business further than one can walk within 30 minutes. When the headline reads, people using segways in place of excercise then you can have your little rants about how they should ride a bike, row a boat, or walk.
i still like the idea of a skateboard or longboard its quite nice it just doesn't like railroad tracks and rocks. i use it to get to school everyday it doesn't rain, and i just carry it with me. works out great and takes me 5 minutes to get to campus where walking would take me 10.
All of the detractors of the Segway have no clue! Your opinion of how I look riding a Segway doesn't matter to me. The fact that every year, I'm NOT buying 100 gallons of fuel that would otherwise be wasted on local trips does matter to me.
Ten cents gets me twenty miles! How far will ten cents take you in your car?
You see the Segway isn't exercise, that's why I walk, ride a bike or go to the gym. I use my Segway instead of, or in addition to my car.
Here's some real information for you:
http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/9
Open your mind, not your mouth!
The Segway is an ALTERNATIVE form of transportation, and a choice I'm glad I have. Besides, it's fun as hell to ride!
I owned a Segway and put 1200 miles commuting to work absolutely great fun. Once I changed jobs, it was no longer being used and thus no longer practical. Segway customer service absolutely sucks with two+ month delays waiting for repairs "normal". The current I2 bug is wheel wobble - normal use can introduce wheel wobbles and wheel bounces which at 12mph feel like you are riding on a pogo stick. Battery issues are a less common problem but can be expensive to resolve. I'm waiting for i3 to resolve the wheel wobble issue and hopefully more reliable battery technology and even then, I would need to be able to ride it during the week before I spent my $5K again.
The ting I dislike most about Segway is that they pretty much locked up the patents on this type of device when a good dose of competition would help improve the technology and lower the price.
Awesome...just like Gob from Arrested Development!
While I don't own one of these, and probably never will, it's remarkable how people label Segways as "expensive". They cost as much as (if not less than) a Vespa or comparable scooter, yet do not require licensing or registration and cannot be given parking tickets or moving violations. If someone is considering a scooter, I can see why they'd opt for a Segway instead!
Seriously people, just start to think about alternative ways of energy. Like water for example. Many people already converted their cars to run on water. Check out http://convertcartorunonwater.info for more info.
I live in a rural crossroad community in VA. My wife has MS. Before the diagnosis (12 years ago) she was passionate about hiking and being outdoors. She hated having to get in the car to go to the Post Office or the local store. An off-road model allows her to get to those places as well as on trails in Shenandoah National Park and through fields and woods nearby. The Segway has been transformative and has reopened a part of the world she thought she lost. We are blue-collar and this purchase was not whimsical, We love Segway. So dis me, you arrogant db's.
The Segway was the subject of so much hype at release. Whether this came from Segway itself or other sources (or both) I suppose is debatable, but the fact is it was hyped to the sky.
Nobody here is doubting it has its uses (at least I think nobody is). But IMO (and I speak for nobody else), when something is overhyped some of that will come back and bite the company in the butt...and you will see articles like this written like this.
For entirely practical reasons (one of which is a lack of a seat, relatively short range of batteries, no option for human power, laws limiting where it can be ridden, etc) I think the Segway is a colossal failure, especially when compared to the hype it attracted. Now what you may call failure or success is debatable, but I call it "not living up to the hype" and (IMO, again) never being the transport for the masses it (presumably) was aiming to be.
Now if you were to ask me if I think it had its uses where it's perfect, I would say YES, but please god don't hype it as the transport revolution tree-hugging bong-smoking environmental revolution. Not directing this at you, but at people in general that think they are saving the world with this thing and that anyone that brings up failings is an automatic hater of the technology.
what I find odd is the unsusual amount of pro-Segway first-posters who defend the Segway and don't seem to have much of an interest in commenting on anything else. I won't mention names, but I seriously doubt some of these guys don't have vested interests. I'll leave it up to the reader to find them.
As far as looking odd or dorky, you could say the same about nearly any other form of transportation if you were seeing it for the first time and before it went mainstream, which the Segway will eventually. How about sliding down a hill with a couple of boards attached to your feet, or wearing brightly-colored, tight-fitting clothes, sitting on a post hunched over while wildly spinning your legs, or standing on a board with one foot while continually pushing off with the other, or walking funny with four small wheels on each shoe? All pretty dorky if you think about it.
On a Segway you're standing as though walking, but you're moving much more efficiently. Sure, the Segway is more sophisticated than any of the above examples, but that sophistication is what gives it the simplest user interface of any vehicle. Lean the direction you want to go. What could be easier or more elegant than that? Those of you that don't like the implementation must have something better in mind. I'd like to hear it.
I think that most of the people who make negative remarks about Segways don't want to admit that they want one themselves because they're either unable to afford one, afraid they'd be unable to handle the comments from others like themselves, or both.
I've been commuting for over five years on a Segway - well over 10,000 miles, and most people don't even notice me anymore. The few comments I get are of the 'cool' variety. Same thing when I ride my recumbent bike, which I use for long weekend trips.
If you feel less dorky sitting in a box, exposed to traffic jams, road rage, parking problems and high gas prices, while polluting the planet, that's your choice. Just don't call me names as I pass you by on my own little highway called the sidewalk, enjoying the fresh air and freedom, and saving a few bucks a day.