ZFS file system coming to Snow Leopard server edition
By Joshua Topolsky 
posted June 23rd 2008 10:24AM
posted June 23rd 2008 10:24AM
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posted June 23rd 2008 10:24AM
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I'm pretty sure it is, but there was talk of it being inplemented in Leopard, so Apple has obviously been playing around with it. (some type of partnership perhaps?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS
Yes it is. But it's licensed under CDDL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_License
Here's some wiki info on this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Mac_OS_X
that is, of course if you take wiki as credible fact...
Either way... imo, OSX is pretty useless compared to Linux for a server platform...
Do you have any experience with OS X Server, or are you working under the assumption that OS X Server is the same thing as OS X Client? It's called Server for a reason, it has an entirely different feature set than normal OS X. And of course it's based on unix so I have to ask why you would think it's useless compared to Linux.
I'm not sure why you're so rabidly in support of OS X Server. It is in no way the definitive best option, and while I don't think anyone could come up with a convincing argument that it's the WORST option, you're still a little over the top here. OS X Server is built on UNIX, yeah we know. In my experience, you can make Linux do pretty much everything OS X does, or everything worthwhile. Based on what I've seen (people trying out different server software, including Apple/Microsoft) after using linux, it seems that with experienced IT management, there's little point to running OS X Server over linux because it doesn't add that much. OS X is easier to use, but if you're going to tout the ability to go into shell and do things, then you have to know your way around the shell and at that point, why not just use Linux?
http://zfs.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/
Apple has been working on this for over a year.
http://zfs.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/
to read more
For small servers, sure Linux is fine, but for the big iron, I'd use Solaris.
I think what Zak is trying to say is that people are saying OS X Server is useless when compared to linux but they are not providing any reasons as to why. He isn't supporting OS X really he is just asking that people explain what they are saying with some reasons on why they came to their assumption instead of just insulting something they have no experience with. What makes Linux more capable than OS X. John is saying that linux is more cost effective which isn't related to what either poster posted. Juice Daddy said OS X Server is useless. What can Linux do that OS X Server cannot. It doesn't sound like any of you have much experience using the actual software that you are saying is inferior.
@Chris McDowell
Yup, judgement based on experience is far better than anything else, particularly if you aren't even going to share details of what your judgement is based on. I don't think that you need to have experience as long as you can based your judgement on reliable studies conducted by experts, but just saying "product x is worse than product y" without anything to back that up is pretty worthless.
@Zak, Chris
First off, I don't owe anyone an explanation for my comments...
but I guess I'll admit that my experience is limited on servers and server platforms.
regardless, I've never heard anyone in the industry say that they would take osx's server over a linux distro
Is it me or does anyone else agree that "Snow Leopard" is one of the un-masculine code names for tech? Leopard was cool, but come on...where's the originality?
Does Apple have something against Bobcats, Lynx, Lions, etc?
As far as I know it's because Snow Leopard is basically still going to be Leopard with some improvements under the hood rather than "100 new features" like most major OS X releases.
If ZFS makes it way to the OS, will it be called the Sun Leopard? Just askin'. And Zak? Get a goddamn job and stop haunting this thread.
Sorry if you don't enjoy my comments, but as the late, great George Carlin might have said: "Tough titty." You are welcome to simply not read the thread or my comments.
Zak, for that George Carlin reference, I give you +5. Also, as I heard it from GC, the saying is "Tough Titty Kansas City".
Hi, I'm Zak! I'm going to woefully defend Apple and OS X until I start to look like a bigger douche then the people making the uninformed comments.
"Woefully defend"? Look, I'm sorry if you have a problem with me responding to blatantly uninformed commenters, but that's not my problem, it's yours. And yeah, calling me out rather than contributing to the thread doesn't make you look like a douche at all.
I mean I realize that hating Apple is very trendy right now, but do you really think that gives people a valid excuse to be morons about it? Tell you what, if you can prove anything I said to be wrong, then do it. Or you know, just insult me some more, because that's constructive.
hey look!
someone making sense getting low ranked.
oh, he likes apple.
perfectly justifiable then!
though he does make valid points.
if you hate apple, you get ranked high.
eh, no matter.
if you dont use a mac its okay to be ignorant.
because youre not buying into the "hype"
just make sure to ignore alternate energy too.
all these new norms are lies,
mark my words.
damn Zak, Engadget doesn't display a post count!
So, does ZFS eliminate the need for a RAID controller chip on the motherboard? Or does it work with such a chip? (Of course, every mid-to-high end PC motherboard has included a RAID chip for years, now... (Ahem.)