Keep on Smilin' Your day will soon dawn! Read in Businessweek earlier this year that up to 40 million US jobs will out-source in the next 12 years...basically, anyone who touches a keyboard...
...and with 'medical tourism' gaining ground, plus remote operating/remote surgery, even an MD will avail you not.
...so get out your snow shovels and lawn mowers America - those jobs cannot yet be out sourced (Hmmmm Predator drones in Afghanistan being flown by Brits in a base just outside Las Vegas...so why not remote mowers piloted by an Indian in Bangalore? Just give it time.)
Oh, but wait...I just realized our government, unhappy with how fast we were sending all our factories and capital to the third world, decided to import the third world here. Sorry, those landscaping jobs have just been insourced; Hola Gringo!
Laugh, and laugh; we are but whistling past the graveyard.
That wouldn't be cool. More manufacturing needs to be done here. The more jobs that are local, the better able locals are to actually afford the product sold. One manufacturer setting up shop actually influences other suppliers to follow suit. Besides eco-friendly etiquette dictates the closer to home you get your consumables, the more eco-friendly you are. Developing countries will have little drive to innovate if developed nations continue to take advantage of them by having their comparable slave labor produce our goods. It's hard to have (manufacturing) pride in something called American, but made in China. Just as stupid as saying "Hello from Seattle, Made in China. or Designed by Apple in California, Made in China." Those statements aren't fooling anyone, it's obvious the manufacturing pride is China's alone. By casting off their lots, the developed nations are actually devolving into more primitive, less technologically-capable nations. They need to stay in the manufacturing game too, in order to stay competitive and keep their economies well rounded.
Only people with zero understanding of economics or history buy into the scare tactics about outsourcing. Funny that I work in high tech (the most outsourced industry) and I don't know a single person who cares or is worried about outsourcing.
Really Reid? You don't know anyone who's upset with outsourcing? Would you happen to be in management?
I can flick a penny and hit ten people who are upset with outsourcing. I can also tell you that the people who we've outsourced are replaced with workers who are completely incompetent. I can also attest to the outsourced developers from our clients are also completely incompetent and are incapable of finishing a project. Ever. I can tell you this and I can tell it to you from many unique and different instances. I can also tell you that this greatly affects our business, and we actually lose clients when our client's developers are so inept that the client decides to cut their losses and end the project prematurely just to save what they have left.
Here's another thing I can tell you, Reid: the greatest booming economy in Europe right now is Ireland because they sunk their money into education for mathematics and engineering. We use to have similar programs, but have quietly and effectively given them the boot. Our math and science graduates are diminishing and already we can see the negative trend in our production, and economy. And what's to blame the students for instead going for an education major over math and science? There are fewer jobs, the risk is greater, and compared to education majors the benefits are astronomically out of proportion.
So Reid, really, you're the half-wit for thinking that turning a quick buck from outsourcing is what keeps our economy strong. It's people like you that piss me off because now I have to answer the phone and I have to hear someone ask to speak to our IT supervisor so they can give him a presentation on outsourcing IT work.
ekwmin @ : If we're American's, we'd want to have as much manufacturing here as we can get, because it only makes it better for our neighbors and our kids.
Yes, I probably would appropriate a Japanese version of a Japanese car more than one made anywhere else, but your missing the point of localization. Products sold here, should be made here, products sold in Japan should be made in Japan - that's the localization mantrea.
But I am addressing a larger issue of trade imbalance caused by the lack of foresight by too many ill-meaning or just plain stupid members of management - in particular the ones who have much to gain from outsourcing.
It's not a bad thing to desire a return to our own manufacturing pride - it's been on hiatus for far too long.
The new CEO of Virgin Media, Neil Berkett, has openly stated in an interview that they think net neutrality is “a load of bollocks” and claimed they're already doing deals to deliver some people’s content faster than others. They would then put websites and services that don't pay Virgin in the "slow lane", meaning those sites would load slowly and cause most users to give up using them, feeling forced to use whatever Virgin wants to push through their network.
This is not the first time an internet provider infringes upon net neutrality, but it is the first time that an ISP so brutally states that they simply plan to limit internet access to a television-like system in which the access provider completely regulates the content you have access to.
Virgin Media has over 3.5 million customers in the UK and the real danger is that when they start applying this system to their network, all major internet providers around the globe will soon follow the trend. Because this is exactly what major ISP's have been wanting to do for years.
But we can stop it.
If the masses of the internet react against this, we will set an example of what happens when one provider tries to take away our freedom. We will make it very clear that any ISP who tries to infringe upon net neutrality will see its popularity go down the drain because the users don't accept it. And we'll see to it that only the providers who care about safeguarding our internet freedom have our support.
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Wow. Imagine what the price would be if they made them overseas...
I think it's mostly made in France (power train assembled in California)? Do you mean imagine the price if they made it in a developing country?
Keep on Smilin' Your day will soon dawn! Read in Businessweek earlier this year that up to 40 million US jobs will out-source in the next 12 years...basically, anyone who touches a keyboard...
...and with 'medical tourism' gaining ground, plus remote operating/remote surgery, even an MD will avail you not.
...so get out your snow shovels and lawn mowers America - those jobs cannot yet be out sourced (Hmmmm Predator drones in Afghanistan being flown by Brits in a base just outside Las Vegas...so why not remote mowers piloted by an Indian in Bangalore? Just give it time.)
Oh, but wait...I just realized our government, unhappy with how fast we were sending all our factories and capital to the third world, decided to import the third world here. Sorry, those landscaping jobs have just been insourced; Hola Gringo!
Laugh, and laugh; we are but whistling past the graveyard.
can i haz telsa car?
I wonder if semi-transparent gray is also the color of the future
Bill, there's already robotic lawn mowers. :P
That wouldn't be cool. More manufacturing needs to be done here.
The more jobs that are local, the better able locals are to actually afford the product sold.
One manufacturer setting up shop actually influences other suppliers to follow suit.
Besides eco-friendly etiquette dictates the closer to home you get your consumables, the more eco-friendly you are.
Developing countries will have little drive to innovate if developed nations continue to take advantage of them by having their comparable slave labor produce our goods.
It's hard to have (manufacturing) pride in something called American, but made in China.
Just as stupid as saying "Hello from Seattle, Made in China. or Designed by Apple in California, Made in China." Those statements aren't fooling anyone, it's obvious the manufacturing pride is China's alone.
By casting off their lots, the developed nations are actually devolving into more primitive, less technologically-capable nations. They need to stay in the manufacturing game too, in order to stay competitive and keep their economies well rounded.
What about Toyota building automobiles here? Should we tell them to build them in Japan instead?
Bill,
Only people with zero understanding of economics or history buy into the scare tactics about outsourcing. Funny that I work in high tech (the most outsourced industry) and I don't know a single person who cares or is worried about outsourcing.
Enjoy the Lou Dobbs show.
Really Reid? You don't know anyone who's upset with outsourcing?
Would you happen to be in management?
I can flick a penny and hit ten people who are upset with outsourcing. I can also tell you that the people who we've outsourced are replaced with workers who are completely incompetent. I can also attest to the outsourced developers from our clients are also completely incompetent and are incapable of finishing a project. Ever. I can tell you this and I can tell it to you from many unique and different instances.
I can also tell you that this greatly affects our business, and we actually lose clients when our client's developers are so inept that the client decides to cut their losses and end the project prematurely just to save what they have left.
Here's another thing I can tell you, Reid: the greatest booming economy in Europe right now is Ireland because they sunk their money into education for mathematics and engineering. We use to have similar programs, but have quietly and effectively given them the boot. Our math and science graduates are diminishing and already we can see the negative trend in our production, and economy.
And what's to blame the students for instead going for an education major over math and science? There are fewer jobs, the risk is greater, and compared to education majors the benefits are astronomically out of proportion.
So Reid, really, you're the half-wit for thinking that turning a quick buck from outsourcing is what keeps our economy strong. It's people like you that piss me off because now I have to answer the phone and I have to hear someone ask to speak to our IT supervisor so they can give him a presentation on outsourcing IT work.
ekwmin @ :
If we're American's, we'd want to have as much manufacturing here as we can get, because it only makes it better for our neighbors and our kids.
Yes, I probably would appropriate a Japanese version of a Japanese car more than one made anywhere else, but your missing the point of localization.
Products sold here, should be made here, products sold in Japan should be made in Japan - that's the localization mantrea.
But I am addressing a larger issue of trade imbalance caused by the lack of foresight by too many ill-meaning or just plain stupid members of management - in particular the ones who have much to gain from outsourcing.
It's not a bad thing to desire a return to our own manufacturing pride - it's been on hiatus for far too long.
The new CEO of Virgin Media, Neil Berkett, has openly stated in an interview that they think net neutrality is “a load of bollocks” and claimed they're already doing deals to deliver some people’s content faster than others. They would then put websites and services that don't pay Virgin in the "slow lane", meaning those sites would load slowly and cause most users to give up using them, feeling forced to use whatever Virgin wants to push through their network.
This is not the first time an internet provider infringes upon net neutrality, but it is the first time that an ISP so brutally states that they simply plan to limit internet access to a television-like system in which the access provider completely regulates the content you have access to.
Virgin Media has over 3.5 million customers in the UK and the real danger is that when they start applying this system to their network, all major internet providers around the globe will soon follow the trend. Because this is exactly what major ISP's have been wanting to do for years.
But we can stop it.
If the masses of the internet react against this, we will set an example of what happens when one provider tries to take away our freedom. We will make it very clear that any ISP who tries to infringe upon net neutrality will see its popularity go down the drain because the users don't accept it. And we'll see to it that only the providers who care about safeguarding our internet freedom have our support.
Speak out in any way you can and spread the word.
@sleekdark:
Or you could elect a president vowing to legislate net neutrality. Make telecoms a dumb pipe by voting.