Linux fanboys: No-one fucking cares about your plethora of non-standard, shaky operating systems. That's why you still only have less than 1% of the PC market. Your phones suck as well.
@mark. How many machines on the net are running linux of some description? Also, how can linux be called 'non standard'? Microsoft is the biggest enemy to free and open standards that currently exists.
"Also, how can linux be called 'non standard'? Microsoft is the biggest enemy to free and open standards that currently exists." Agreed. @mark: I hope you were kidding when you said "mature". Furthermore, as for "shaky" and "unstable", have you actually *tried* a good Linux distro lately? Sure they sometimes have issues, but then so does Windows, Mac, and everything else out there. In my opinion, Windows users tend to be used to the BSoD and the rest, so it doesn't seem like as big a deal. Any well-established Linux distro should work quite well on most computers (and sometimes, as in the case of driver issues, it's not their fault if it doesn't). Sure, if you want to pull your code from the latest SVN, it's going to be unstable - that's the price you pay for getting the latest and greatest. MS and Apple only release when a program is ready (debatable); Linux releases stable versions too -- but you can choose to use them, or not. Please get your facts right before providing criticism
It's not a contract price. Compare the price of this wifi-enabled phone...with a 640 x 480 touchscreen...to the *non-contract* price of other phones with similar capabilities. That's 640x480 folks, so duct tape two iPhones next to each other to get the same size and get back to me on price.
We had quite a few apologists for the iPhone 1.0 here when it hit the streets with only Edge. "It has Wifi! That's all I need 99% of the time!"
Where did those folks go? Off massaging Steve Jobs' feet perhaps...waiting for him to offer them more gruel.
"Microsoft is the biggest enemy to free and open standards that currently exists." That's true, but they make the standard. You might not like it, but 96% of the world's computers disagree.
I run Ubuntu on one of my PCs. It's nowhere near as good as Vista, doesn't have acceptably stable software and requires frequent command window interventions to actually do anything plus it grays out/locks up more than any Windows machine - including ones running Me - I've ever had.
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$400 for a basic phone.
Hmm...
I'm thinking... no.
Agreed. Way to much for lack of "should be" standard options.
Hmm... Low Ranked.
I guess this calls for a mature response:
Linux fanboys: No-one fucking cares about your plethora of non-standard, shaky operating systems. That's why you still only have less than 1% of the PC market. Your phones suck as well.
There, I feel better for that.
@mark. How many machines on the net are running linux of some description? Also, how can linux be called 'non standard'? Microsoft is the biggest enemy to free and open standards that currently exists.
Uh oh, someone is cranky... like they have linux in their vagina.
"Also, how can linux be called 'non standard'? Microsoft is the biggest enemy to free and open standards that currently exists."
Agreed.
@mark: I hope you were kidding when you said "mature". Furthermore, as for "shaky" and "unstable", have you actually *tried* a good Linux distro lately? Sure they sometimes have issues, but then so does Windows, Mac, and everything else out there. In my opinion, Windows users tend to be used to the BSoD and the rest, so it doesn't seem like as big a deal. Any well-established Linux distro should work quite well on most computers (and sometimes, as in the case of driver issues, it's not their fault if it doesn't). Sure, if you want to pull your code from the latest SVN, it's going to be unstable - that's the price you pay for getting the latest and greatest. MS and Apple only release when a program is ready (debatable); Linux releases stable versions too -- but you can choose to use them, or not.
Please get your facts right before providing criticism
It's not a contract price. Compare the price of this wifi-enabled phone...with a 640 x 480 touchscreen...to the *non-contract* price of other phones with similar capabilities. That's 640x480 folks, so duct tape two iPhones next to each other to get the same size and get back to me on price.
We had quite a few apologists for the iPhone 1.0 here when it hit the streets with only Edge. "It has Wifi! That's all I need 99% of the time!"
Where did those folks go? Off massaging Steve Jobs' feet perhaps...waiting for him to offer them more gruel.
"Microsoft is the biggest enemy to free and open standards that currently exists."
That's true, but they make the standard. You might not like it, but 96% of the world's computers disagree.
I run Ubuntu on one of my PCs. It's nowhere near as good as Vista, doesn't have acceptably stable software and requires frequent command window interventions to actually do anything plus it grays out/locks up more than any Windows machine - including ones running Me - I've ever had.
So, once again: No one cares. Really.