Samsung i900 Omnia vs. HTC Touch Diamond... fight!

At this point, neither the HTC Touch Diamond nor the Samsung i900 Omnia need any introduction, but we're happy to announce that these two have stepped into the squared circle and faced off in an epic nine-page battle. Reviewers manhandled both phones for an extended time and broke down the UI, hardware, features and overall usability, so if that sounds like something you'd be interested in, cover your face and head on down to the read link. We're warning you though, it gets ugly.

[Thanks, Chavdar]

[Jamie M @ Jul 4th 2008 12:43PM]

Brilliant! I've been waiting for this for weeks!.....last one to the conclusion is a rotten egg etc.

[Alex @ Jul 4th 2008 12:47PM]

"iPhone 3G is still to see a reality check, but it's almost sure that these two can give the latest Apple device a good fight. Maybe they still can't challenge the iPhone interface, but they are finally getting closer."

So, it's a draw.

Why do all of these always end up as an iPhone commercial?

[roole @ Jul 4th 2008 10:47PM]

Heh heh. All I can say is, bring these on! Finally, people will begin to realize how difficult it is to replicate the whole package that Apple brought to the fore. And, in the process, guess what: My Apple stock is going to go even higher!

There's nothing like klutzy competition for someone's stock price.

[Anoldcarsnickname @ Jul 5th 2008 4:01AM]

Well, because they actually have a point.

I own an iPhone myself but have been using the Diamond Touch for the last week. While the Diamond Touch does offer you the flexibility of Windows Mobile to install custom apps on your device it suffers from the negative sides too. Although I must admit HTC has finally cleared up their act with the touchscreens, their TYTNII and others are terribly slow and unresponsive (and every customer I've sold one shares my opinion).

But in the end the iPhone is far more responsive in it's UI than the Diamond. When pressing an icon on the standbyscreen of the Diamond you have an animation to switch to that option, but instead of directly playing that animation there's a (2) second pause that makes it look like you didn't really push the icon at all and you have to do it again. Which makes you go 2 icons further instead of 1. And sadly enough there are still scrollbars which you have to tap 3 times in order to get them to scroll, or you can use the arrows at the top/bottom but that makes the point of scrollbars completely obsolete. I encourage HTC to just copy the iPhones flexible scrolling technique which would make their devices easier to use.

And they should have done a complete UI rework, not just the one of the standby screen. The rest has terrible small icons..

[roole @ Jul 5th 2008 3:38PM]

@Anoldcarsnickname, you have it right on the money.

I am surprised you didn't get low-ranked: anything semipositive about Apple brings out the low-ranking low-lifes on engadget.com. (They are the same ones that jump and scream with derision about the seemingly jobless people wasting time standing in line in NYC, missing the delicious irony in the fact that their own time seems to have a rather low opportunity cost, given how much time they spend in forums like this trashing Apple and Apple-nonhaters).

All I can say is, since the day the iPhone was announced, the value of AAPL is my portfolio is up by about $100,000. That's about 2 years for my kid's college (for those wondering, post-capital gains taxes).

So go ahead and low-rank me again, folks!

:-P

[SimbaDogg @ Jul 6th 2008 12:12PM]

roole is a tool.

[rayw @ Jul 6th 2008 6:53PM]

@roole

That is because Anoldcarsnickname has a valid point and has made good reasoned comparisons. I added a positive to his comment ranking. All you know how to do is to make yourself look the fool fanboi, and you wonder why people low rank you. Go home and stop piddling over your own feet.

[itster @ Aug 6th 2008 11:07PM]

iphone is for children that like to press the same button over and over again with no change.

windows mobile.. you know the os that is installed on 18 million units and counting.. can do anything you want to do..

sorry apple, im sure the followers you have will finally one day take off their blinders and see the light

[do mo kun @ Jul 10th 2008 1:30AM]

HTC Touch FTW

[The Dude @ Jul 4th 2008 5:12PM]

@Steffen:

Or "For The WankING" because the screen res on the Touch Diamond goes all clobbersaurus on the iPhone. Imagine not having to deal with scaled down pr0n. HTC For The Wanking in-fuckin'-deed.

HTC: http://i.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/htc-diamond-vs-samsung-omnia/sshot/gsmarena_s143.jpg
iPhone: http://i.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/htc-diamond-vs-samsung-omnia/sshot/gsmarena_s147.jpg

[Dave @ Jul 4th 2008 12:58PM]

probably the sexiest fight I have ever seen on here

[Kris @ Jul 7th 2008 4:54AM]

Long live us nerds eh? Who needs girls ;)

[Tim @ Jul 4th 2008 1:01PM]

That's what we call a "no-brainer"

[Gamer90 @ Jul 4th 2008 1:12PM]

Xperia X1 has a 3.0 Screen Vs. Touch Pro's 2.8 not much of a difference like the Diamond and the Omnia (Omnia screen is the sh*t!)

[JohnTitor @ Jul 4th 2008 1:25PM]

X1 has a WVGA screen, meaning 76800 more pixels, and pixel width web browsing

[thedesolate1 @ Jul 4th 2008 2:22PM]

yeah it sucks to have a bigger screen but shitty resolution... with the exception of ease of usability having a bigger touch screen. It kind of defeats the purpose of having a larger screen.

[Madoc @ Jul 4th 2008 1:40PM]

Whoa, the i900 has nearly DOUBLE the battery life...

That is exciting, with DivX movie playing, I'd be using lots of juice.

Don't think the i900 is coming to Sprint though, will be getting the pro once it hits sprint shelves out (Nov. this year?).

[xstream @ Jul 4th 2008 2:16PM]

there will be a bigger battery for the touch, one from htc with 60% more capacity and one from third party with 100% more capacity

this isn't a rumor both have been confirmed

WQVGA is just not usable for smooth browsing at all, i900 would have been a cool thing with WVGA or more but like this its just another win mobile pda with phone functions

[miro @ Jul 4th 2008 1:56PM]

Xperia or Omnia? I would love to go with a full touchscreen interface and landscape keyboard on the Omnia is definitely a plus.

[xstream @ Jul 4th 2008 2:22PM]

there is software that activates the auto rotation on the diamond in all applications (you can define exceptions) so you can use landscape mode and landscape keyboard everywhere

link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403939

the guys from xda-developers just have everything you need to make the diamond a perfect phone that blows i900 away

and yes i am a diamond fanboy ;)

[kuthippie @ Jul 4th 2008 6:11PM]

xda devolopers are great! here's a link to a .cab file that make's your diamond's touchflo look black again... (for the people with weird colours and menu's messed up by their carriers)

[xstream @ Jul 4th 2008 6:39PM]

you forgot to provide the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2360330

[projekt84 @ Jul 4th 2008 2:03PM]

it really is sad to see that the diamond doesn't have landscape typing... looks like it's something i'll have to get used to. sigh.

[xstream @ Jul 4th 2008 2:23PM]

no you don't have to get used to it (see my post above)

[thedesolate1 @ Jul 4th 2008 2:21PM]

I read the review and I think the omnia is the winner... although I love htc I have to hand this one to samsung. The omnia just needs a bit more polish but other than that the longer battery life, better cam, better processor, and faster UI are deal makers for me. I don't want to compromise. Not that I will buy it.... im still waiting on the HTC dream.

[boe @ Jul 4th 2008 5:02PM]

I'll take the better resolution of the touch over the 900 although a larger screen would be nice.

Double the battery life on the i900 is a big plus

Resolution of the camera means nothing - the lens is what makes or breaks a camera - but since I don't care about the camera - the biggest seller for me is the flash so I can use the useless camera as a flashlight.

[ShogunMaster @ Jul 4th 2008 2:58PM]

I was cheering for the Diamond until I saw the lack of microsd slots and limited (relatively) memory onboard. Anyone know if the Touch Pro lacks a memory slot? Otherwise the X1 is the easy choice to hold out for.

[xstream @ Jul 4th 2008 3:33PM]

the Touch Pro and the X1 both have a memory card slot

the touch doesn't have one but i think 4gb is enough for most things, tomtom for middle europe is 400mb, programms you need are

[xstream @ Jul 4th 2008 3:40PM]

and by touch i mean touch diamond of course

[SornyPanafonic @ Jul 4th 2008 3:43PM]

the tough pro has a sd micro slot, so you can expand upon the memory, it also has ram. someone can correct me if im wrong but ill hate you for it.

[Ed T @ Jul 4th 2008 3:55PM]

Good to see the WinMobile crowd will have two products that mimic (skin deep) the iPhone. The review basically says these two phones are "almost as good" as the real thing, but since Windows has been sucking hind teat for quite some time now, the hoi polloi should be used to that second place feeling.

[xstream @ Jul 4th 2008 4:09PM]

with the new interfaces you can do same as much as with the whole iphone but there is allways win mobile underneath it with which you can do thousand times as much as with the iphone

so the interface might be not as good as the one from the iphone but the features you can get from windows mobile are more and better

[John @ Jul 4th 2008 4:22PM]

The fact that the iPhone cant multitask is a HUGE shortcomming and would even be worth challenging it as a 'smartphone.' Agreed, the winmo phones are trying to catch up as far as UI polish, but as far as what they can do, like run chat programs in the background all day long, makes me question why any serious user would go for that.

[R@y @ Jul 4th 2008 4:31PM]

Dont waste your time trying to reason with iStans, the learning curve
of a winmo would make their head explode

Im happy to see that the camera is significantly better than my 6800,
and if you have a 6800, you'll agree lol (its that bad)... i wouldve
liked some feed back on the shutter speed (eh, capture speed) as with
the mogul, i could be walking at around 1mph and any picture taken
will look like splash art and tie-dye

The touch interface is looking better and better, but i really cant
wait to get a hold of a touch pro and cut it off, thus freeing up
resources for my application needs *cough*emulators*cough*

[bjsguess @ Jul 4th 2008 5:45PM]

I wish that people exhibited an ounce of reading comprehension. The article does NOT say that the iPhone is better. It does say that the UI is superior but WM devices are closing the gap. There is much, much more to a phone than the UI. Both of these devices offer many features that simply aren't available on the iPhone.

[YpoCaramel @ Jul 5th 2008 3:18PM]

WinMo still has a large base of useful applications. For example, MapKing's maps, which cover most of China and Asia, is currently not available for the upcoming GPS iPhone. There's definately still reasons for choosing WinMo, outdated interface aside.

[APasserBy @ Jul 4th 2008 6:20PM]

(ignore comment); test post

[Kavi Siegel @ Jul 4th 2008 6:55PM]

If only it had a keyboard.

[Sampsonlor @ Jul 4th 2008 8:22PM]

it seems good

[Johan S @ Jul 5th 2008 4:09AM]

HTC Touch wins.

Who wants a crappy 240 x 400 screen? Not anyone who intends to use the web browser, that's for sure.

Those of you who think resolution doesn't matter on a small screen need to see the huge difference.

[david_topping @ Jul 5th 2008 5:15AM]

I got through the first page of the review and realised I didn’t need to read any more:

HTC: No additional storage
Samsung: 320 res

No thanks.

I have an HTC Exec, it’s running WinMo5 which I can just about tolerate but the point is that it gives me a keyboard, 4GB of storage and a large 640res screen. I just can’t see the incentive to move.

What seems to be happening is that the WinMo device makers appear fixated on Apple’s UI at the expense of understanding the markets that got them their success in the first place; slightly more tech and business orientated. I see no fault in understanding that Apple’s excellent UI sets a goal for UI improvement but Apple already “owns” that market. If it were me I’d be pushing an 800*480 screened device with expansion, an improved UI and crammed full of new tech and trying to put some distance between myself and Apple.

[Alex @ Jul 5th 2008 10:46AM]

I agree.

[David @ Jul 5th 2008 12:32PM]

“If it were me I’d be pushing an 800*480 screened device with expansion, an improved UI and crammed full of new tech “

David are you serious? If you are on engadget my guess is you must have heard of the Xperia, if not, google it. It’s gonna seem very familiar. The HTC Touch Pro is not bad either.

I think the Omnia would be a no brainer if it had a WVGA screen. It is still my choice between the two maybe even against the Xperia as well. The fact is, there is still no one perfect device not even the iPhone. In spite of all marketing dollars and hype around it, it still has glaring flaws.

[Anthony @ Jul 7th 2008 4:19AM]

Im so glad companies are stepping their game up when it comes to phones. Im soooo looking forward to either the Omnia or Touch Pro *** and possibly the HTC DREAM *** But i have to wait atleast until the end of this year which really blows... I'm stuck on a TERRIBLE Treo 700

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[gameart @ Sep 13th 2008 1:08PM]

They Are all Brand New, Unlocked, Original, Full accessories and come with
1 yr International waranty from the Manufacturer..

NINTENDO WII......$250USD
NOKIA N95 8GB.....$400USD
NOKIA N96 16GB....$450USD
IPHONE 16GB…….....$350USD
iPHONE 8GB……......$300USD
IPOD 32GB.........$350USD
Iphone 3g .........$400usd
NOKIA N96.........$500USD
PS3 60GB……........$300USD
SONY ERICSSON XPERIA X1......$450USD
SONY ERICSSON G900...........$400usd
Samsung i900............................$350
Samsung i907............................$400
Sony Ericsson G705..................$400

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[gameart @ Sep 15th 2008 4:24AM]

.All our goods are unlocked and brand new with all working accessories intact plus 1year warranty and 30days return policy.

NINTENDO WII......$250USD
NOKIA N95 8GB.....$400USD
NOKIA N96 16GB....$450USD
IPHONE 16GB…….....$350USD
iPHONE 8GB……......$300USD
IPOD 32GB.........$350USD
Iphone 3g .........$400usd
NOKIA N96.........$500USD
PS3 60GB……........$300USD
SONY ERICSSON XPERIA X1......$450USD
SONY ERICSSON G900...........$400usd
Samsung i900............................$350
Samsung i907............................$400
Sony Ericsson G705..................$400

Contact for more inquiry@ [e-mail]
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[danny @ Sep 20th 2008 1:59PM]

This seller (nguyenvunhulan and benajmin afful) are CHEATER. Firstly, i transfer USD349 to him for buying 1 unit Apple IPhone from him. Later he say can not ship out if only purchase 1 unit phone.He ask me to buy 5 unit of phones and I only need to pay 50% advance payment of the remain 4 phones. The second and following payment was told to pay to a friends of this seller which is at Nigeria. After I make the 50% payment, he ask me to make full payment. Without any suspect on him, I make full payment. Then, he ask for usd750 payment for tax and other fee. At that time, he did show me a fedex slip. Hence, i make the payment. After that, he ask another usd300 payment. This time, i try to refer to his boss, Benajmin Afful([e-mail]) and make the usd300 payment to Benajmin Afful. Unfortunately, his boss is BIGGER CHEATER. Now, they only asking another usd185 payment and do not show me any picture or shipment slip of the phones. DAMN THEM !!!