If the old saying that you can't believe everything you read holds true, then it must be doubly so for images you see on the internet. Such is possibly the case in the latest batch of leaked pictures doing the rounds on the old information superhighway. Lately (i.e. today) shots of RIM's new touchscreen phone -- the
Thunder -- have surfaced showing off what's supposed to be a new version of the BlackBerry OS (4.7) running its media player. Now we're not saying these pics aren't
really real, but what we
are saying is that these shots look an awful lot like renders to us, and since no one can verify them beyond an "anonymous source," we're just going to recommend a healthy dose of you-know-what, okay?
[Via
MobileSyrup]
posted Jul 7th 2008 7:21PM
Hi!
Would just like to know, which blackberry is the best rival to the iPhone? I'm in the mood to see how green the grass is on the other side side! :)
-From swed.
This one.
Have you considered the Touch Pro?
he said which blackberry
And I said this one. If looking for ones already out, then obviously the Bold.
Bold ain't really out just yet (but the silver accented phone & rounded design is nice looking).
Blackberry's not really a direct competitor to the iPhone (yet). Touchscreen it still pretty much iPhone territory (sorry Viewty & friends).
My wife really likes the Curve & is a really recent convert from ultra-simple phones. I'm a non-QWERTY man myself so I really can only steer you away from the dark side of huge keyboards.
iBerry
@anthony
Don't you mean the iPhone isn't really a competitor to the Blackberry yet, due to it's lack of functionality?
@Wormbolt - you could flip it around. I make no claims to really appreciate the iPhone like others. I just stated the obvious- neither is a direct competitor for the other at this point.
iPhone's eyeing the suits (Enterprise), but Blackberry's got them beat for saturation at this point.
Go Nokia E71! (or N82 for the "suits" among us who prefer phones to be phones-PMP-camera & enjoy leaving email @ the office or hotel room).
Slow down there Anthony, you probably just forgot that Touchscreen phones existed long before Apple released one, and that many are more advanced and powerful, I almost thought you were a fanboy there
that is one ugly ass phone.
Thats one thing you have in common with it. I kid I kid.
Really? I've never owned a Blackberry but they're everywhere and the ones I do see usually look pretty ugly IMO.
However the Pearl and this phone looks pretty sick to me...
Still waiting for the Touch Pro though...
It's a business phone not a fashion statement.
Look at your avatar.... then look at your comment....
You have no business speaking of anything remotely visual...
LOL i love it. My comment was a success.
a success in that you riled up engadget's commenting crowd?
if so, congratulations. just don't forget your helmet when you leave.
Let me call fake, I thought the thunder was exclusive to verizon, how come it says sprint on the pics
because it doesn't say Sprint
If you're referring to Leona Lewis -- from 2007 album "Spirit", then I can see how you can mistaken that for Sprint. It's a Verizon phone alright--do you know why?! Cuz it's butt ugly!
It does not say Sprint, it says Spirit on one of them thats Leona Lewis's Album title.
Speaking of Sprint, that looks like the new UI Sprint has adopted, it's very similar to the Instincts UI.
Not to mention those shots are pretty much the EXACT iPhone UI but with a different color scheme. As much as I hate RIM, I'd like to think they'd change it up a LITTLE.
Hello there, Apple fanboy!
don't jump to conclusions he isn't praising the iphone ui he is actually kinda saying the opposite.
The middle shot looks like the HTC Audio plugin found on custom Roms.
copy of the iPhone UI? umm.. no.. it's not, everyone says that about EVERY touchscreen phone that comes out.. but seriously, what looks so similar?... the buttons at the bottom of the screen?.. pretty sure nearly EVERY touchscreen phoen I've seen has onscreen buttoms similar to that for easy navigation. I'll admit it, I'm a bit of a RIM/Blackberry Fanboy, but its because of phones like the Bold and Pearl, and no this!.. their sexy and have an easy to use interface that integrates everything I could possibly want in a phone, and then some.
Please Telus.. pick this up!
HTC Fanboy spotted!
caniac_01 isn't that what an iphone does??? Integrates everything into a sexy device??
Would changing things a "LITTLE" provide a "pretty much EXACT" result?
Anyone with a curve or 8800 will tell you, this is just a minor upgrade to the already present media application. iphone UI my ass.
It looks more like a Samsung P2 UI...
John Mayer listens to Leona Lewis? LOL
Damn, you're stupid! These are shots of a different phone, and shots of a phone that isn't owned by an idiot celeb.
There, there now little cubby, go back into hibernation and don't come out until you understand what jokes are.
@ Lowest Ranked
Your name rocks.
You I must applaud. One, your name absolutely rocks (as does Lowest_Ranked...which is usually a misnomer). Also, to frequent Engadget readers, your comment was hilarious.
I'm just happy he wasn't egotistical enough to listen to himself all day.
i would like to see the rest of the interface before passing any judgment on the phone. My biggest problem with blackberry is having to pay 40$ a month for corporate email... that is quite a bit more than the 15$ a month i can get the internet for on just any old WM phone and use it's built in exchange support.
You mean the album title "S-P-I-R-I-T" ?
"sprint"? Not so much.
rudy you just got owned.
Speaking of owned, the two of you (and the two below) failed to comment/reply on the correct response.
Not really i replied to the post in which rudy got owned. Its not my fault if the original poster messed up.
you are correct. (- 1) for me :-(
haha sprint... it says "SPIRIT" are you Illiterate?
maybe he needs glasses.
For the life of me I just cannot figure out why people still like Blackberries? I will admit the ONE i have owned was a lot more stable than the Palm OS or WM OS phones I've had...but that was the ONLY "pro" to it. In every other imagineable area it didn't even hold a candle to Palm OS smartphones let alone WM ones. I've played around with the new ones and I don't see any compelling reason for these over real smartphones?
What gives, why is blackberry sill in demand?
It's the only other device that has a name like a fruit...
The current generation Blackberry smartphones are miles ahead of what they used to be. In fact, I just dumped my HTC Mogul for a Blackberry Curve. It is everything WinMo isn't; fast, reliable, good Wi-Fi, good media player, and very efficient to use. Sure, applications are still rare (and expensive), but for a phone that "just works", nothing comes close.
Probably because people are used to them.
This will have a touch screen right? It looks massive. Good work there RIM.
Seriously the problem with all these wannabe iPhone clones is that
1) The screen is too damn small
2) The icons and UI as a whole look like shit when compared to the sexiness of the iPhone
3) The phones form and design/appearance aren't as good or visually pleasing as the iPhone.
However this "Thunder" may actually be a legit contender. I know I'm intrigued.
god what is with everyone thinking what apple does is the only way to do it. touchscreen with no keyboard is a nightmare, please dont change the entire ui to accommodate touchscreen only controls, release a scrollpad and keyboard version!
That doesn't look bad. Maybe I will stick with verizon... even though they will find a way to destroy it
Okay folks, we are at a neutral site, what will it be a BB touchscreen phone or an Apple touchscreen phone?
if you think this site is neutral, please do a search for Iphone
Wow.
I'd ask you to get a summer job so that you'd have something useful to do, but that would be too cruel to the poor saps who'd hire you.
Sorry, was responding to clak just above.
Now RIM has joined the "me too"/"iclone"/"cheap knockoff" crowd. Innovation has truly stagnated within this industry. Reflecting the same sad affairs within the Windows world. It's has been echoed throughout the tech industry that without Apple, innovation would truly be dead. The only innovation these "me too" companies can do on their own is how to monopolize their market without going to jail.
You don't seem to realize that 90% of iPhone 2.0's new features are lifted directly from the BlackBerry. So who's copying from whom? A large part of the WWDC keynote was like watching a BlackBerry demo, (yet stuff like push-IM is still missing).
So you have Apple trying to expand into the corporate market by copying the BlackBerry (a wise choice) and you have RIM trying to expand into the comsumer markey by copying the iPhone (also a wise choice).
Unfortunately for Apple, they must rely on Microsoft's Activesync to provide the iPhone's BlackBerry-like features, technology which isn't very robust or efficient and has so far done little to take away market share from RIM.
Denial, the first sign of failure. Trying to make a product irrelevant by associating similarities of a previous product, second sign of failure. You basically ignored the main points of why RIM is cloning the iPhone. Another sign of denial equating to failure. Three strikes means your hopeless in understanding why BB is doing nothing but "me too" for their new products and cloning as much aspects of the iPhone as legally possible. How sad...
@Jubei: So Blackberry making a new phone with an emphasis on multimedia and touchscreen instantly makes it a "me too" product? You act as if Apple was the first and only company to do that. Of course there were others that have, just not as successfully and as smoothly as the iPhone. Apple is just good at prettying up a UI with fancy icons and transitions. Of course, now phone makers are finally getting the idea of better mobile usability in their heads and are reacting by offering their own ways of making multimedia and touch interfaces a part of their mobile phones.
Competition is good. Apple shouldn't be the only company to offer a smooth multimedia/touchscreen interface-styled phone for consumers. There can be many others, and maybe one of them could actually go above and beyond the iPhone.
Apple makes tons of "me too" products if you didn't notice. Take for instance iWork, Apple TV, Mobile Me, Safari, MacBook Pro to name a few. Guess that must make Apple a bad company if you hate "me too" products a lot.
Well look here. QB is actually defending another product. Has your faith in the Zune wavered to the point that you are now championing another "me too" company? Another typical ploy or re-directing a subject to try and manipulate the topic away from the original point. Nice ploy QB, but your argument is moot. The iPhone is a new platform, new product. Grasps at the little straws that you can dig to argue similarities, but call it as it is. BB copied, cloned, imitated and are a bunch of hypocrites for creating such a product.
@Jubei,
I kinda like you for many reasons; we both have a love of
i) Apple
ii) the English language - though you are just learning the language and I am a God.
But you are really quite wrong about the iPhone. The iPhone is quite clearly a clone of the Dell X50v. Just look at them:
1. Full Glass Front
2. Silver side casing
3. Touch screen
4. Power adaptor
5. MP3 music player.
6. Bluetooth
It is identical. Admittedly Sir Jobs did copy the actual phone functionality from Samsung. (Samsung was the original inventory of the telephone (patent pending)).
I think that you will admit that I am right.
@kccboy2004
Sigh, another "boy" who immediately proclaims superiority before making his/hers points.
In truth, your post is quite ludicrous. The full glass front of the iPhone is a diamond dust coated optical quality glass. Much like your expensive optical eye glasses. That is why its scratch resistant and very smooth to the touch. That's true innovation for such a product. The rest of your list is just plain silly. It's a basic list of standard used by just about every manufacturer. Learn to understand the difference before you declare yourself a deity of foolishness.
Without a hepatic touchscreen it's shit - Instinct fools
Hello Sprint/Samsung fanboy.
The Instinct's touch screen is controlled by your liver?
Ew. No thank you.
Damn you got me Heptic makes much more sense
Courtesy of Urban Dictionary:
heptic
a spinoff on the word hectic but a lazier chilled alternative
...so you're saying the touchscreen of the Instinct is a lazy but busy at the same time? Hmm..sounds like it's a vibrator to me..
looks pretty good, but for some reason the blue tinge at the bottom of the interface bothers me.
Is it because you're autistic?
Sorry, that was just lame.
I don't understand how these are iPhone clones. This phone looks more like every other touch screen phone smart phone or PDA that has come out in the last 10 years...
Actually, I think they've done an excellent job of giving us an original, sexy design. It's a phone in a tuxedo.
Are you 'clak'?
@ Ocean (im not 'clak')
You're an oyster.
Hahaha, nobody even noticed how nonsensical my insult was!
I have a BB Curve on Verizon atm.
Here is what I hope this phone turns out to be.
-At least 3.5 inch touchscreen
-At least Opera Mini as a browser
- Flawless integrated UI for the touchscreen
- Usual BB stuff everyone expects
- No more than $250 before rebate w/ 2 year contract
If RIM somehow makes all that happen, I am getting one.
I have a BB Curve on Verizon atm.
Here is what I hope this phone turns out to be.
-At least 3.5 inch touchscreen
-At least Opera Mini as a browser
- Flawless integrated UI for the touchscreen
- Usual BB stuff everyone expects
- No more than $250 before rebate w/ 2 year contract
If RIM somehow makes all that happen, I am getting one.
Of course I hope you realize that OS X is the best operating system in the world and Steve Jobs is a God to everyone. The iPhone is of course a masterpiece to everything Holy in this world of unholy-Microsoft products and ugly knockoffs of iMac's and MacBooks. Do you concur..cla...um..Ocean? :D
Shoot..reply system has failed me :(
You have failed the reply system.
As a photographer I can categorically say that this is a "render". It would be impossible to light the phone in portrait and landscape mode in exactly the same way with the highlights falling in exactly the same places.
Hmmmm... Good observation...
Hm...there's something wrong here, I can't see "clak"s comments, but I can see that people are replying to him.
What gives?
Deleted!
Surprised?
Actually, he's "Ocean (im not 'clak')."