Drobo (second-gen) mini-review

We were kind of hoping they'd get it over with and build in Ethernet (or at least WiFi) connectivity instead of continuing to charge an extra $200 for the DroboShare add-on -- that it comes without left us with some mixed feelings. But then again, this new model doesn't cost any more than the first-gen product ($500), so we can't hold it too much against 'em -- and as we found, it is a fair amount faster (and significantly quieter) than its predecessor. Read on for more.
Gallery: Drobo (second-gen) mini-review
We won't dwell much longer on the fact that Drobo still doesn't have its own network connectivity (and if we were gamblers, our money would be on integrated DroboShare whenever the third-gen device comes out), but if you're not planning on connecting your device directly to your computer, be prepared for the extra cash outlay. The upshot, however, is that the DroboShare will soon be able to host on-board applications and servers ("DroboApps") that make use of your Drobo's storage pool, potentially giving your whole setup a great deal more value. That is, assuming the developer community puts some weight behind the recently released SDK (more on that here).
If you're just in it for the speed, we found the new Drobo does deliver -- although maybe not on the same levels demonstrated by Data Robotics. Their tests show fairly consistent speed increases of over 2x on writes and between 60-100% on reads using AJA Kona. We did all our tests using Xbench, which showed more conservative improvements over the first-gen device. Using a set of four varied SATA drives, we got somewhat smaller speed increases over USB, usually in the range of 10-20%. Occasionally we got up to 100%+ on some operations (like 4k block uncached random writes) -- but on other operations the new Drobo was actually a slight bit slower (like 256k random uncached reads).

If it fits the bill for what you're looking for, the second-gen Drobo is still our favorite home and prosumer storage device in this class. The new interface and speed increases are easy to appreciate, but even if you trade those in for slower access over a network-attached DroboShare, you still stand to take advantage its forthcoming DroboApps and unusually simple auto-mounting system. And running four hot 7200 RPM drives -- which should be fairly high up on the device's thermal envelope -- the new model is indeed noticeably quieter than its predecessor, even despite the unfortunate loss of the previous model's jet engine exhaust motif. Dropping $500 on a device with no included drives (or even network access) is still pretty tough to swallow for many buyers, but the benefits of having a dynamically expandable, redundant, easy to manage storage pool are still as strong an incentive as ever to be a little spendy -- if not on a Drobo, than perhaps on a ReadyNAS with X-RAID. It's your data, after all, so treat it right.
Reviewer's note: As we mentioned when this review was first published, our unit suffered from a strange series of random, somewhat jarring reboots. Data Robotics narrowed this issue down to a pre-production power Y-connector from our early-release DroboShare. Since replacing it with a production cable we haven't seen the issue pop up again; Data Robotics assured us that they've tested their hardware and software extensively, otherwise never having seen the issue we experienced.

















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
robotrock @ Jul 8th 2008 8:52AM
I understand it's probably due to how the Drobo works as "one big drive" but I sure wish it came with eSATA.
rock99rock @ Jul 8th 2008 11:18AM
Agreed. No reason why the second gen shouldn't have it, as the standard is well over 2 years old now.
I also wish there was an 8 bay version. Damn MKV's.
Wolfticket @ Jul 8th 2008 8:53AM
How is this thing in any way robotic? I know it doesn't require manual data migration, but it doesn't do this by using a little arm to move the drives around as I initially hoped.
Chad @ Jul 8th 2008 9:19AM
Robot: any machine OR mechanical device that operates automatically with humanlike skill. (dictionary.com)
Wolfticket @ Jul 8th 2008 9:30AM
The scientific definition of a "machine" (derived from the Latin machina) is any device that is not a computer that transmits or modifies energy. (wikipedia.com)
Is this not basically a computer?
Chad @ Jul 8th 2008 9:35AM
@WolfTicket
Ya, good point. Maybe the company name isn't suggesting it's a robot, but rather a Data Robot. Still just a fancy name for "Computer".
I LOVE THE CAPS LOCK KEY @ Jul 8th 2008 9:38AM
A computer is any device used to make mathematical calculations. This does include slide rulers and abacus. They are not machines. A calculator (computer) can take on many different forms in both machine and non machine.
Chad @ Jul 8th 2008 9:40AM
We are nerds.
Wolfticket @ Jul 9th 2008 4:13PM
Indeed
macminis4me @ Jul 8th 2008 9:11AM
Great news. We've all been waiting for this.
OMFG - you left out the best news of all -- crazy deals on Drobo plus drives
Drobo plus 0 TB: $499
Drobo of two 1 TB: $899
Drobo plus four 1 TB: $1,299
This beats the crap out of Infrant ReadyNAS -- the Infrant with 4 TB costs $2,999. Instead of a ReadyNAS, I can buy a Firewire Drobo, *and* a Macbook, plus a Mac mini *and* still have $2.00 left over.
Wow.
Randy @ Jul 8th 2008 10:12AM
You forget that the ReadyNAS has ethernet. The Drobo does not. unless you buy the Share addon which +$200.
the Drobo still doesn't quite "beat the crap" out of the ReadyNas. At least not yet.
chris fredette @ Jul 8th 2008 12:27PM
Why not get the HP WHS over this? It does the same thing has gigabit ethernet and esata. Who the heck uses Firewire anymore for storage? Even camcorders have gone usb. I realize it works a little better than usb but not better that esata. FIREWIRE IS DEAD PEOPLE.
The WHS is $690 at amazon but I paid $590 for the 2X500GB version almost a year ago and it trumps the drobo in so many ways. And don't bring up the stupid data corruption thing. It is VERY minor and will be corrected soon.
Mike Cerm @ Jul 9th 2008 12:57AM
So, how is paying $200 per 1TB drive a "crazy deal"? Newegg has several models for around $180, and I've seen sale prices elsewhere in the sub-$150 range.
Fanfoot @ Jul 10th 2008 12:03AM
The data corruption thing on WHS is in fact corrected.
master811 @ Jul 18th 2008 5:08PM
Except you would be an idiot to spend $2800 on a ReadyNAS with 4x 1TB drives when you could get one without the drives and buy the drives separately, saving you $1200. Which basically makes it around the same price as the Drobo (if you then addon the $200 drobo share to make it equivalent to a ReadyNAS).
...but yes Netgear are ripping you off if you buy the drives with them.
master811 @ Jul 18th 2008 5:15PM
Except you would be an idiot to spend $2800 on a ReadyNAS with 4x 1TB drives when you could get one without the drives and buy the drives separately, saving you $1200. Which basically makes it around the same price as the Drobo (if you then addon the $200 drobo share to make it equivalent to a ReadyNAS).
...but yes Netgear are ripping you off if you buy the drives with them.
Chad @ Jul 8th 2008 9:16AM
Give me a 2 drive version for $300 that I can daisy chain together with other 2 drive boxes to make the ultimate expandable DROBO array.
later_g @ Jul 8th 2008 10:55AM
This would be a bad idea, technically speaking. If you ever unplugged on the cables while the dirves were running you'd effectively simulate a 2 drive failure and lose all your data. If $300 is your threshold, though, they're clearing out the v1 Drobo's at $350 and you can have 4 bays.
ghostfish @ Jul 8th 2008 9:17AM
I really wish this unit didn't use proprietary methods to store/stripe the data. If it dies, the only way to get your data back it to buy another one to stick your drives in whereas a regular RAID device you can recreate the array with any RAID controller. The other problem I have is the lack of network connectivity unless you buy a $200 adapter that adds nothing but a Ethernet port. Given those limitations, I think a Synology CS407 or DS508 would be a better choice. (Or Thecus if you prefer)
Chad @ Jul 8th 2008 9:23AM
The benefit of the drobo way is that all four of your drives can be of any type/size. Makes it a lot easier for the average consumer to slowly build a RAID storage device. Also makes it a lot easier to recover your data later when you can't find a Western Digital 80GB 5400 RPM Clavicle (yes, I know their brand is not really Clavicle), you just stick in any drive that is larger and it will mirror it onto the new drive.
craig @ Jul 8th 2008 11:06AM
"...whereas a regular RAID device you can recreate the array with any RAID controller."
You sure are naive.
Ryan Block @ Jul 8th 2008 11:19AM
That's totally untrue. RAID standards only extend to technique, not to implementation. If your RAID controller dies, you can only run it on identical hardware (or, if you're lucky, maybe a newer model from the same company -- but no guarantees).
Denver_80203 @ Jul 8th 2008 9:18AM
I'm still torn.
Love Drobo for the features it does have
Hate Drobo for what it doesn't
-REALLY easy to use. Large, ready to go capacity
There's not much middle ground.
-No network. No media server software
ReadyNAS is -exactly- the opposite on each point
Guess I'll wait longer still
bob @ Jul 8th 2008 9:19AM
yay
Elphaba @ Jul 8th 2008 9:29AM
WTF???
Firewire 800 on the device, but the Droboshare will still only connect via USB2.0????
Am I the only one that just wants to scream at Data Robotics "WHAT??!! Are you insane?!"
Chad @ Jul 8th 2008 9:39AM
USB 2.0 should be able to handle whatever is coming/going on the network, no?
Tim @ Jul 8th 2008 9:34AM
Still no ethernet? I can't understand their philosophy behind this device if you're not going to make it networkable.
macminis4me @ Jul 8th 2008 9:40AM
@ghostfish - do you really think you can take drives from, say, an Adaptec controller and plug them into a Readynas and have them work? NFW. Drobo is like all other storage arrays out there -- pull the drives and put them into the same unit.
Scott @ Jul 8th 2008 9:46AM
I would never pay this much without an eSATA connection.
Michael @ Jul 8th 2008 9:49AM
Someone please make a Portal Companion Cube case mod please
Unknown @ Jul 8th 2008 9:50AM
It's FASTER! How fast? Who the hell knows, because you never published any actual throughput, just % changes.
What was throughput before hand? What were the test drives? What is the new throughput? How long was the 1.25GB file transfer?
I am disappointed in this article. It gives no meaningful data.
Rene @ Jul 8th 2008 9:52AM
So what happens when the drobo itself dies (has to happen some day).
I guess you can buy a new drobe, but are they backwards compatible?
So basically you need to backup you data. Well I guess you can buy two drobos right away...
simplisticton @ Jul 8th 2008 11:13AM
You take your drives out of the dead Drobo and put them in the new Drobo -- all you need to make sure of is that you put them in the same slots. The USB-only 1st gen and the new USB/FW 2nd gen are format-compatible. The speed ups are largely due to a newer, faster processor on the 2nd gen unit.
tservo24 @ Jul 8th 2008 10:00AM
eSATA--you and all five of your friends. eSATA has so many compatibility issues I am not surprised they would not include it. Who wants to buy an expensive PCI Express eSATA card when FireWire 800 will do for 95% of people? There's a reason Apple Mac Pro's don't ship with eSATA...
craig @ Jul 8th 2008 11:08AM
because eSata wasn't standardized until after the Mac Pro was developed?
calm @ Jul 8th 2008 10:01AM
DAMN.... and i just ordered a drobo on sunday from newegg that arrives today! I wish they could let people know it was coming!
bonedog73 @ Jul 8th 2008 10:30AM
No ethernet connectivity.. wtf ? I had no idea the Drobo had no ethernet, wow what a misstep.. the whole reason I would buy one would be to share it on my network. Oh well.
Chad @ Jul 8th 2008 10:42AM
Network sharing is available through an add-on device.
Apreche @ Jul 8th 2008 10:33AM
The only reason I haven't bought a Drobo yet is because the network functionality is not built in. There is no way I'm paying $200 for a network card. I was hoping that Drobo G2 would seal the deal, but I guess not.
rothgar @ Jul 8th 2008 3:32PM
I am in the same boat. I just bought a link station pro to hold me over until G3 comes with gig eth and hopefully at least 5 drives.
scott @ Jul 23rd 2008 11:15PM
there's no way to connect a USB WiFi dongle?
later_g @ Jul 8th 2008 10:47AM
I don't fully understand the obsession here with having ethernet in the box. I'm sure there are people for whom that is the best use case but I'd rather have the choice of not buying something I don't need. Am I the only person with a Desktop PC? (Maybe that's it.) My PC can provide the networking stack just fine my desktop can provide the sharing stack just fine and when I'm using it (which is where I edit the baby videos) I don't take the performance hit of accessing things over SMB. Several NAS boxes reviews I've read show that they are fast in and of themselves, but when you access them through SMB instead of FTP you hit get overhead that cuts performance by 20%+, and even that assumes everyone has already upgraded to wired gigabit ethernet or 11n at very close range to not have a much slower connection than USB2 or Firewire. Besides, if I were going to upgrade to 11n (I'm in a holding pattern for the draft to get finalized and prices to come down), I'd probably buy an Apple Airport Extreme which has a USB port to share my Drobo from so I still wouldn't need that networking. The only question is whether the v2 is different enough to warrant upgrading... probably not but a move in the right direction.
simplisticton @ Jul 8th 2008 11:21AM
I agree with you... desktop networking gives me a lot more flexibility, BUT I can also see the other side of the coin. People buy the Drobo 'cos they don't want the hassle of maintaining a RAID array or a server -- so why would you want the hassle of maintaining sharing via your desktop OS when something like DroboShare (or an AirPort Extreme, or a "real" NAS) can do it for you?
For me, it boils down to the fact that connecting the Drobo directly to my machine is a) faster for my primary machine and perfectly fine for the rest of the network, and b) more configurable.
If the choice is between adding cost & complexity to the base product or offering it as an add-on via the DroboShare, I favour the latter... but yes, I wish the Drobo & DroboShare were connected via a faster link than USB 2.0.
Donald Dorson @ Jul 8th 2008 10:50AM
So does it still have that annoying ass 2TB cap on volume sizes that in my opinion defeats the whole purpose of the Drobo? Or was that really just a USB 2 issue?
craig @ Jul 8th 2008 11:09AM
No, firewire has it too. eSata does not.
simplisticton @ Jul 8th 2008 11:16AM
Their tech spec page for the Drobo-2 claims 16GB.
ShadowKain @ Jul 8th 2008 11:00AM
See better Array: Thecus intros 5-bay N5200BR NAS Server
More expensive, but I want my ports damnit! Is a gigabit ethernet port too much to ask???
thedesolate1 @ Jul 8th 2008 11:02AM
No ESATA??
barry99705 @ Jul 8th 2008 11:06AM
Now this is something I'd hook to my G5 tower running 10.4 server. I've managed to shoehorn a third drive in by removing the optical drive. So now it has a 1Tb sata iTunes drive, a 500Gb sata Files drive, and a 60Gb pata OS drive. I used to have a freenas box that I rsynced the iTunes and Data drives to until it crapped itself a couple weeks ago. If the iTunes disk dies, that's a hell of a lot of cd ripping again. Not to mention the tv shows my wife has bought.
Distortedloop @ Jul 8th 2008 11:07AM
@tservo24-
I'm happily running two eSATA drives on my Mac Pro (1.1 model) here. Mac Pro's do ship with eSATA.
There are 6 total eSATA internal ports on a Mac Pro: 4 on the internal drive bays, and 2 on the motherboard.
OWC sells an inexpensive kit that jumpers the 2 motherboard ports to an external bracket. It's fairly easy to install, but requires a bit of jockeying the internal cooling ducts to get the out (Mac Pros are built tight!). Choice of external eSATA drives is important though - avoid Seagate FreeAgent Pros, which have had bad logic chips for eSATA. Other enclosures work just fine.
Just because *you* don't find eSATA useful, don't write it off for others. I get internal drive like speed on two 750gb external drives. That's nothing to sneeze at, and it's (theoretically) 8x faster than USB and 3.5x faster than FW800, and 3x faster than Gigabit ethernet. Granted, actual drive speeds limit the real world performance data transfer rates, but you can tell the difference between eSATA and USB even without benchmarks.
I want to want a Drobo, it's got neat features, but FW800 alone isn't enough to interest me. It needs built in ethernet to even be considered ($200 for a port is just obscene), and it would take eSATA to become a must have device.