iPhone 3G first look, what do you want to know?

Reader questions
Leon: Does it feel any different in your hand than 1st gen iPhone?
We definitely do like the way it feels. It's a little more slick (or slippery, depending on how wet your palms are with anticipation and/or summer sweat) because of the plastic back, but it's well curved and comfortable. It doesn't feel flimsy or plasticy at all.
Santz24: How wildly does it dance on the table compared to the first iPhone?
If you're asking how the vibrate function compares to the original, we got the two buzzing side by side and they feel pretty much identical.
If you're asking whether it wobbles on the table as you use it, yes, it does -- but the amount of wobble depends on the type of surface. But even on a hard, flat surface it's not really that bad, and we're usually sticklers for that kind of thing.
Tom: Does it have Flash support?
Seems like a fruitless question that we all know the answer to -- but we tested it anyway, and the answer is no, Apple didn't sneak in Flash support so far as we can tell.
More after the break.
Gallery: iPhone 3G first look
Ja: Louder speaker?! Louder volume when holding to your ear?!
Calm down, Ja. Yea, the speaker is noticeably louder, thank god. The earpiece doesn't sound all that much louder. Followup: how's the distortion at high volume? The sound has been great listening to music at the highest volume setting. Nothing much to complain about as far as cellphone speakers go.
Donut: is the back plastic panel a scratch magnet like the older iPods with plastic fronts?
The whole thing is a smudge magnet. The black back is pretty much just as bad as the front now. We already miss the aluminum rear. As for whether or not it's more scratch-prone than before, it seems to be able to stand up to some coins, but we think on the whole it's probably more easily scratched than the aluminum.
Saltygary: Is it compatible with docking stations that supported the earlier iPhone?
Yeah, it's still compatible with all docking stations -- Made for iPhone branded or otherwise -- but it will probably need a new docking adapter.
Yoyorks: Does the Apple Radio Remote work with it?
Andai Cee: Is the picture quality better? Apple said they tweaked the software to make photos look better.
In most shots it's hard to tell whether it's the slightly brighter, newer screen, or tweaked algos. But Apple definitely didn't re-format those images in higher resolution, because they still look just as pixellated when zoomed in. Still, the iPhone 3G does look a slight bit clearer, especially when pulled in closer.
youngrocky: Can you text message in other languages? not just roman alphabet... like in Chinese, Korean, Japanese?
Yes, you can easily switch between the international keyboards you specify in settings. We were even able to compose a single message with characters from Chinese, Korean, and Japanese alphabets. Followup: Will only the iPhones released in China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macau, etc. have Chinese character handwriting recognition? No, any device anywhere will be able to select any international keyboard supported by the iPhone.
Justin: For the love of God please tell me if they included landscape SMS mode. I cannot find one single definitive source on this subject and it would mean a great deal to finally have this answered!
Nope, it's not in this version, either. Bummer. Followup: landscape mode in AIM? Nope.
Lots of people: Can you jailbreak it? Can you unlock it? Does DFU even work?
Respectively: not yet, not yet, and it would appear so -- we were able to get the black screen.
Rwvette: Will the new iPhone forward SMS?
Oh, we wish! That would be really useful for us and a lot of people. But no, it doesn't.
Lots of people: Is the face still glass, or is it now plastic? Is the screen any different?
Not sure why anyone assumed they changed the facade and display but as we've said before, it's still the same high quality, smudge-magnet glass as before. The screen is still great -- not the subpar quality displays the early iPod touch had.
Are YouTube streams higher quality on 3G than they were on EDGE?
Ooh, good one. So far we don't think so. We'll try this again where we've got better coverage, but at this point assume the answer is no.
Lots of people: Will it blend?
How about you buy one and let us know!
Tons of Exchange questions (in no particular order)
Does it support tasks or notes on MS exchange?
Not so far as we can tell.
Does it have the ability to select mailbox folders other than the normal inbox, sent, etc.?
Yes.
Any idea of if it will allow one to install a certificate for Exchange accounts that require a user certificate for authentication?
It would appear so -- we were prompted to install some Exchange certs when configuring our setup. Your mileage may vary depending on setup, however.
So Exchange and personal contacts / calendar can't coexist?
Correct. When you select the options to sync contacts and calendars, you are prompted with a warning letting you know that it will clear out your existing contact and calendar data. If you turn those bits off again, you still have to resync with your host machine to get that data back (i.e. it's not just hidden away while using Exchange).
Can you set it up without having an enterprise plan?
Yes.
How does the Exchange work? Configure it, and it runs. Is it like a BlackBerry? Um, kind of. If you don't know the difference and don't already use it, this whole thing won't really affect you. Does it use Outlook folders? Yes. Contact sync? Yes. Calendar sync? Yes, have you been paying any attention? Does it allow me to file an email? If you mean move it to another folder, then yes. Does it allow me to search email? No. Does it have an out of office feature? It shouldn't reset your out of office, but you can't configure it from the iPhone, either. Does it have a speed dial feature? Huh? Can I call someone directly from an email address? We don't know what you're talking about, but you can call people from your corporate contact cards.
Tons of GPS questions (also in no particular order)
Tons of people seem to want to know how it works for turn by turn directions (like in a dedicated GPS device).
Google Maps doesn't do turn by turn based on GPS. You can press a button to have it give you your next turn, but it won't combine GPS and directions to give you route guidance. This is no surprise since it was never an advertised feature, and Google's Maps API license explicitly states it should not be used for turn by turn route guidance. If the iPhone is going to do this, it'll be with another app, probably by a company like TomTom, for example.
Jon: Whats the GPS like?
Well, one neat new tidbit is the little hovering, animated location ring as it tries to lock on your location. If it can't get an exact lock on you with proper GPS, it does as before, it pulls in as close to the map as it thinks is accurate, centering approximately on where you're at.
If it CAN get proper GPS, it gives you a blue dot with a transparent blue halo, which pings outward every second or so. So far we had a hard time getting the proper GPS lock without going outside.
paulmjoyce: How does the AGPS keep up when in a car? Does it work well inside or an urban canyon (or is it like the N95)? How long does it take to accurately pinpoint your location indoors and out?
We'll test the GPS in a car as soon as we can. Most GPS devices have spotty service inside urban areas, so our hopes aren't high for the iPhone 3G, nor most devices. An accurate GPS lock with a clear view of the sky took between as little as two seconds or so. Really, realy fast.
Jason: Does GPS follow you/update when you move? Does it give voice directions?
Yes, but again, it doesn't do turn by turn. No.
Wentworth: Does the GPS still work if you are not on the cell network? Of course, I know the assisted part won't, but does regular GPS still work?
Assuming you've been in the area before and the Google Maps app has cached the map tiles, you can load your location and the cached maps without needing to be on cellular or WiFi.
And finally, for all the people that just won't give up hope: unless we're totally missing something, no, it still doesn't do A2DP, copy/paste, or tether. Maybe one day, fella.
















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 9)
Chace @ Jul 10th 2008 8:53AM
What does it do?
Will @ Jul 10th 2008 9:06AM
everything
Mark Anderson @ Jul 10th 2008 9:08AM
Including MMS, Video and copy and paste?
Will @ Jul 10th 2008 9:10AM
no MMS, copy paste or that stuff, no video recording, no video confrencing
BUT EVERTYHING ELSE
Mark Anderson @ Jul 10th 2008 9:13AM
So you can use it as a mobile storage device? What about expandable memory?
King Mustard @ Jul 10th 2008 9:14AM
lol!
Brian @ Jul 10th 2008 9:14AM
To be fair, you "can" get MMS and a video recorder in the installer app on the current phone.
fanman @ Jul 10th 2008 9:21AM
I dont want to know anything about the iPhone 3G. Thank you for asking.
Tinu @ Jul 10th 2008 9:53AM
Does it still really unlock the phone when you slide that "slide to unlock" button?
joewhat @ Jul 10th 2008 10:04AM
This is the first time I looked at a photo of the iphone and thought: The design starts to look (out)dated...maybe it's just the red/brown leather in the background, but somehow it screams for a little update designwise, dont you think?
rock99rock @ Jul 10th 2008 11:44AM
Does using the instant message clients use up data, or text messages?
mymaclife @ Jul 10th 2008 11:48AM
Crashes 02 website like nothing else on earth.
^ @ Jul 10th 2008 12:35PM
it gives the apple fanboys a sexual frill of excitement, it turns engadget into a boring one phone (iphone) debate
Razor @ Jul 10th 2008 3:26PM
Will, is task management part of EVERYTHING?
Travis @ Jul 10th 2008 8:54AM
I want to know if it'll have opera web browser avalible for it
bohsocks @ Jul 10th 2008 9:29AM
WRONG
http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=MP3S&type=TV_Shows&movie=South_Park/Episode_203_Chickenlover"e=203_dumbass.txt&file=203_dumbass.mp3
BratPAQ @ Jul 10th 2008 11:57AM
its wrong to want know?
Mike Cerm @ Jul 10th 2008 3:53PM
Opera, despite having no marketshare, keeps cranking out browsers for just about every OS there is. I imagine they'll eventually release something for the iPhone. Maybe they'll even integrate Flash support, which would be pretty good.
I actually hope they do make Opera for iPhone. I generally don't care for Safari. It's a decent mobile browser, but it crashes constantly on the iPhone, and it's missing lots of key features. If anyone can make a better iPhone browser, it's Opera.
vdogg89 @ Jul 10th 2008 10:18PM
opera? im more concerned about FF mobile
Santz24 @ Jul 10th 2008 8:54AM
How wildly does it dance on the table compared to the first iPhone?
dhytspam @ Jul 10th 2008 10:51AM
Digging further, If I was on the train and had this on the fold out table will it be going everywhere?
Leon Thompson @ Jul 10th 2008 8:55AM
Does it feel any different in your hand than 1st gen iPhone?
NegUrbanSports @ Jul 10th 2008 9:32AM
yes.
Sherif @ Jul 10th 2008 8:55AM
Does it have Copy & Paste ?
Sherif @ Jul 10th 2008 9:09AM
Why someone "Low Ranked" me?
Is it wrong to ask if it does Copy & Paste ??
John @ Jul 10th 2008 9:14AM
Copy and paste is a legacy function from computers back in the '90s. No one uses it anymore.
LOW RANK FOR YOU!
Sherif @ Jul 10th 2008 9:17AM
What do u mean "No one uses it anymore." ??
Of course everybody needs Cut, Copy & Paste!
and I am still wondering if we can do it on the iPhone 3G?
Mark Anderson @ Jul 10th 2008 9:20AM
@John
Several million business users disagree with you.
Eric M. @ Jul 10th 2008 9:23AM
@John
Haha, your comment reminded me of the Soup Nazi, NO SOUP FOR YOU!
@Sherif
No it doesn't have copy and paste. Nor does it have MMS, video conferencing..etc. I'm happy with my current iPhone just fine, especially since T-Mobile doesn't have 3G.
Shicko @ Jul 10th 2008 9:52AM
Thanks, Eric M & Steffen Jobbs :)
Exactly 8 hours left for the iPhone to be sold here in Sweden, they will open the store specially for the iPhone 12AM to 3AM so i wanna go pick up one but i have never used the old iPhone so was wondering how do you (old iPhone owners) workaround copying and pasting thing?
3rd party solution or you just give up?
Thanks
Mike10010100 @ Jul 10th 2008 10:23AM
To reference an earlier comment train:
DarkUltra @ Jun 25th 2008 8:13AM
anyone remember the lack of a retail PCIe physx card? Well official explanation has it wouldn't work because many geforce 3d cards "noised up" the pcie lanes breaking the physx pcie connection. Maybe this card would fix that. Anyway, ageia gave up and sold out to nvidia.
Someone with a smartphone that can copy-paste please include a link for citation (I have an iPhone dang it)
Mike10010100 @ Jun 25th 2008 10:28AM
DarkUltra, your post made me chuckle.
People DO use it.
roach @ Jul 10th 2008 10:29AM
Sherif,
You were low ranked due to your lack of shirt. This isn't myspace AND we all know there all no girls on the internets.
Thank you.
Shicko @ Jul 10th 2008 10:39AM
Actually I was "Low Ranked" before i take off my t-shirt !! or in other words b4 I upload my image :(
Eric M. @ Jul 10th 2008 11:01AM
@Sherif
There actually might be third party apps that let you copy in paste from Safari into emails or back into Safari, iCopy. But I haven't used it, and you would void your warranty by Jail Breaking your iPhone. Personally, I don't miss it too much because its not like I'm typing essays on it. One thing that I DO miss on the iPhone is freaking forwarding text messages!? I'm still shocked that it doesn't have that feature. But I installed iSMS to solve this limitation.
Le Master @ Jul 10th 2008 1:07PM
Hit the damn treadmill. You're a disproportional mass of of muscle and fat. For God's sake, it's summer, cut up.
Jim @ Jul 10th 2008 8:39PM
@ John
Cut, Copy and Paste are NOT legacy. I use them constantly everyday at work.
Might I ask how it is done in this new era??? Think of this: You see some text on the internet that you would like to put in an sms; perhaps a restaurant and address you want your friend to meet at. What do you do? Write it down on paper and then type it into your message? Or do you copy and paste it?!
vdogg89 @ Jul 10th 2008 10:21PM
ya sheriff, pretty sure you should get a freaking shirt on. lol like someone said, this isnt myspace. lol
Mike10010100 @ Jul 10th 2008 11:38PM
Sorry, sherif, but why was I low ranked?
FredThePanda @ Jul 10th 2008 8:56AM
How does it feel in your hand compared to the iPhone 2G?
Cheaper, heavier etc
DogGunn @ Jul 10th 2008 8:56AM
Activation, Activation, Activation!?
How does it work on the 3G iPhone?
Will @ Jul 10th 2008 9:08AM
you have to do it in-store so that means it will be the same as any other activation (no more itunes activation)
Dave @ Jul 10th 2008 11:36AM
"same as any other activation?"
Yeah, maybe if you've been on verizon or sprint for the last 10 years...
I haven't had to go into an AT&T store to get a phone activated since they let you order phones online. Then all you have to do is call an 800 number and activate your sim card, so I don't know what world you are living in, because this activation is a pain in the ass.
btw people can low-rank me all they want but NO CORPORATE USER WILL BUY THIS PHONE WITHOUT CUT/COPY/PASTE. I mean honestly who gives a shit if it has exchange support if you cant even copy and paste things...kinda ridiculous.
chris @ Jul 11th 2008 3:29AM
@Dave
Ahhh, for real. They are trying to tout this thing as the must-have for business, but without something so elementary as freaking copy/paste, are you kidding Apple? I'm honestly not getting it for this reason. Call it spite, or whatever you may, but I am THAT irritated.
APPLE, ADD COPY/PASTE PLEASE?!?!
Tom @ Jul 10th 2008 8:56AM
Does it have flash support??
Mic2000 @ Jul 10th 2008 9:12AM
No, too bad
Homeboy @ Jul 10th 2008 9:15AM
Further more can it be used as a modem and can you finally use Bluetooth to exhange files between other devices? Can you're average MP3 file be used as a ringtone?
Matt W @ Jul 10th 2008 5:55PM
Until the iPhone can support the full featured Flash Player you'll probably never see it. The iPhone simply cannot handle the processing power needed to render most of the popular, publicly available, Flash content. Flash Lite is the only option for the iPhone and I don't blame Jobs for not wanting that. Its, as he said, not good enough for the phone.
Thi mam(kris120890) @ Jul 10th 2008 8:57AM
why no unboxing vid?
Eric M. @ Jul 10th 2008 9:26AM
Just watch the old iPhone being unboxed, same thing.
Matt @ Jul 10th 2008 8:57AM
What do you think of the new iphone? Is there anything that sticks out more than the original besides 3G and GPS?