Now weren't the masses saying that the iPhone could never be suitable for business because it lacked a physical key pad. Now, the #1 (disputably) business phone/pda has just dropped the physical key pad. Does this mean that everybody that made the anti key pad statements should feel silly for letting their own assumptions get in the way of reality, or has the blackberry just made a useless device for business. food for thought. I personally don't care for a physical key pad, but to each his own. I actually liked HP's iPac, some time ago it came w/ a detachable thumb board, I never used it much, but I thought it was a good idea for those that wanted it.
I think you're referring to the iPac 63** series... the detachable keyboard was a good attempt at making a smartphone that didn't alienate either the people who wanted a QWERTY keypad of those that thought it was superfluous. The market still vacilates between those users.
Although it's really early, I'm saying it's a consumer model that will go against another consumer model, the iPhone. Until power users show RIM that a touch keyboard is actually be better than a physical keyboard, I'm going to assume anything that isn't a physical keyboard will be a consumer model (also depending on specs, i.e. Curve vs. 8800).
I don't see how it would make sense to compare a business model to a consumer model. Business model will lack features (specifically media features) that a consumer model has and the business model will have all the necessary features to be productive over a consumer model.
No, if RIM stopped making devices with actual keyboards and people kept buying them anyway, THEN we'd all have to eat crow. RIM could start making phones with Dora the Explorer themes, that doesn't mean that those are what people want to use. Power users still buy primarily buy keyboarded phones. Some don't, and RIM wants that market too. Some are waiting for a fully touchscreen phone that executes the keyboard better, and again, this is what RIM is trying.
RIM didn't "Ditch" the physical keyboard, they still have lots of phones that have physical keyboards, this is simply widening their range of devices. The VAST majority of their phones still use physical keyboards.
all the reasons above, why RIM dominates the smartphone market. Appeal to the masses with various handsets instead of just one.
Personal opinion, although the iPhone has it's pros and cons, unless they make more than one handset, I don't think they will ever top RIM. If Apple keeps one handset and then adds features to it every year or whenever, you're only gaining a small amount of new users because previous owners won't be willing to get a brand new iPhone just for one or two upgrades. With RIM, you get the whole spectrum. Starting with the Kickstart to the Pearl. Then you have the Curve to the 8800 and finally the Bold and soon to be released, the Thunder.
Slowly, RIM is materially increasing investment to achieve dominant global handset status.
(Does anyone know the total amount of first generation iPhone users and the running total of 3G users?)
keep in mind that my post was relatively neutral. 1) no keypad is OK for business or 2) This is no good for business. I didn't take a stance either way. 1/2 here say "they are targeting niche groups" ie no good for business use, and the other 1/2 say it's not for business. I'm personally of the opinion that all PDA/phones are primarily business oriented, since many of the features are not necessary for non business applications. the list as follows; * e-mail - necessary for business but is a gimmick for the masses. * internet - very useful for business, moderately useful since a small phone can access HUB's which makes useful info very quick, ie movie times. * GPS - very useful in business, useful for the masses, but other alternatives available, like Google maps from a comp. * Wi-Fi - see internet above, not necessary since the amount of info the masses need on the go is minimal (again, text, like movie times). * mobile computing - necessary for a business man on the go, since laptops can get heavy and awkward. The masses don't depend on mobile computing (ie they don't make money off of it, and the screen size is a put off if it's not necessary).
now what phones already offer (some models) music tv sms
but a lot of good points have been made by others here, and I'm just putting my own opinion down in this post, and I could be completely wrong. Final note, this post isn't nearly as neutral as the first.
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Now weren't the masses saying that the iPhone could never be suitable for business because it lacked a physical key pad. Now, the #1 (disputably) business phone/pda has just dropped the physical key pad. Does this mean that everybody that made the anti key pad statements should feel silly for letting their own assumptions get in the way of reality, or has the blackberry just made a useless device for business. food for thought. I personally don't care for a physical key pad, but to each his own. I actually liked HP's iPac, some time ago it came w/ a detachable thumb board, I never used it much, but I thought it was a good idea for those that wanted it.
I think you're referring to the iPac 63** series... the detachable keyboard was a good attempt at making a smartphone that didn't alienate either the people who wanted a QWERTY keypad of those that thought it was superfluous. The market still vacilates between those users.
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/hp-ipaq-pocket-pc/1995-6452_7-30981393.html?hhTest=1 *
*(iPhone fanboys need not click the link, no need to understand how smartphones evolved)
Although it's really early, I'm saying it's a consumer model that will go against another consumer model, the iPhone. Until power users show RIM that a touch keyboard is actually be better than a physical keyboard, I'm going to assume anything that isn't a physical keyboard will be a consumer model (also depending on specs, i.e. Curve vs. 8800).
I don't see how it would make sense to compare a business model to a consumer model. Business model will lack features (specifically media features) that a consumer model has and the business model will have all the necessary features to be productive over a consumer model.
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yes, I had the 6305
blackberry hasn't dropped the physical keyboard. they are just expanding their phone line up, which is why they did a clam flip phone as well.
blackberry will continue doing physical keyboards for a long time thankfully.
blackberry hasn't dropped the physical keyboard. they are just expanding their phone line up, which is why they did a clam flip phone as well.
blackberry will continue doing physical keyboards for a long time thankfully.
No, if RIM stopped making devices with actual keyboards and people kept buying them anyway, THEN we'd all have to eat crow. RIM could start making phones with Dora the Explorer themes, that doesn't mean that those are what people want to use. Power users still buy primarily buy keyboarded phones. Some don't, and RIM wants that market too. Some are waiting for a fully touchscreen phone that executes the keyboard better, and again, this is what RIM is trying.
RIM didn't "Ditch" the physical keyboard, they still have lots of phones that have physical keyboards, this is simply widening their range of devices. The VAST majority of their phones still use physical keyboards.
all the reasons above, why RIM dominates the smartphone market. Appeal to the masses with various handsets instead of just one.
Personal opinion, although the iPhone has it's pros and cons, unless they make more than one handset, I don't think they will ever top RIM. If Apple keeps one handset and then adds features to it every year or whenever, you're only gaining a small amount of new users because previous owners won't be willing to get a brand new iPhone just for one or two upgrades. With RIM, you get the whole spectrum. Starting with the Kickstart to the Pearl. Then you have the Curve to the 8800 and finally the Bold and soon to be released, the Thunder.
Slowly, RIM is materially increasing investment to achieve dominant global handset status.
(Does anyone know the total amount of first generation iPhone users and the running total of 3G users?)
keep in mind that my post was relatively neutral.
1) no keypad is OK for business
or
2) This is no good for business.
I didn't take a stance either way. 1/2 here say "they are targeting niche groups" ie no good for business use, and the other 1/2 say it's not for business. I'm personally of the opinion that all PDA/phones are primarily business oriented, since many of the features are not necessary for non business applications. the list as follows;
* e-mail - necessary for business but is a gimmick for the masses.
* internet - very useful for business, moderately useful since a small phone can access HUB's which makes useful info very quick, ie movie times.
* GPS - very useful in business, useful for the masses, but other alternatives available, like Google maps from a comp.
* Wi-Fi - see internet above, not necessary since the amount of info the masses need on the go is minimal (again, text, like movie times).
* mobile computing - necessary for a business man on the go, since laptops can get heavy and awkward. The masses don't depend on mobile computing (ie they don't make money off of it, and the screen size is a put off if it's not necessary).
now what phones already offer (some models)
music
tv
sms
but a lot of good points have been made by others here, and I'm just putting my own opinion down in this post, and I could be completely wrong. Final note, this post isn't nearly as neutral as the first.