I bet Apple's going to divert their attention to fixing this loophole, to preemptively save them money, from fixing the problems people are having with MobileMe, a service for which customers have already paid.
I am not one to sink to name calling, but I am puzzled why Apple or anyone thinks Mobile Me-Too would be any better than their last attempt (mac.com) to corral people into their media pen.
This is about as anti open Internet as you can get, and they are basically competing with the most competitive people out there for commodity services, which is not very Apple boutique like.
I'd also like to mention, in case people think it's something great or whatever, that consolidated app finding and upgrading was first done more than ten years ago by various Linux (and BSD) distributions.
I'm not an anti Apple person at all, but they get a lot more credit than they deserve.
@Zak, if you were writing to me (?), they have more than one team of engineers, but only so much focus. Why do you think mac.com failed so miserably?
I suppose there will always be people who will buy into the convenience and perceived cachet, (and they will forever be under the impression their peers aren't using Apple because of some ignorance even though Apple rarely creates anything), but it will inevitably fall behind what the best of the Internet has to offer. As a parallel, I am sure, if they could get away with it, they would make their Mac line more of a paid media injection device, but they can't maintain a viable product on that basis.
@ huh: I don't get what your problem is. Are you suggesting Apple is coercing people into using MobileMe? Do you think people who use Apple products are not allowed to use whatever interweb devices that they want? MobileMe provides services for people who want those services. That's it. Just like how Google doesn't force you to use GMail, but it's there if you want it. Just like any hosting company, you don't have to use it but it's there if you want it.
Your "corraling" and "anti-open internet" comments make no sense. Are you that unfamiliar with how it works with Macs? Also, the whole "somebody else did it first" argument is tired and irrelevant. Apple isn't claiming they did it first. End of argument.
mobile me is a complete disaster. they should have kept their service free as a part of a beta program with limited seats and invites (similar to what google did with gmail). then when it was READY then and only then it should have went live. Jobsy is just too damn greedy.
Am I missing something? I thought this story was about the app store and possible ways to circumvent its DRM, not another place for a minority to winge about MobileMe. Fair play if you want to make your case, but quit using every story to play that tune!
@Zak, no, I am just commenting in bemusement as Apple makes the same mistake twice, and adding the app store point for conversation, and a sideways point about the GPL. If you don't like it, you can low rank it. As a matter of fact I would love it if comments could be politely debated as a form of constructive debate, but that's asking a lot out of people who expect (want) things to be a certain way.
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I bet Apple's going to divert their attention to fixing this loophole, to preemptively save them money, from fixing the problems people are having with MobileMe, a service for which customers have already paid.
I am not one to sink to name calling, but I am puzzled why Apple or anyone thinks Mobile Me-Too would be any better than their last attempt (mac.com) to corral people into their media pen.
This is about as anti open Internet as you can get, and they are basically competing with the most competitive people out there for commodity services, which is not very Apple boutique like.
I'd also like to mention, in case people think it's something great or whatever, that consolidated app finding and upgrading was first done more than ten years ago by various Linux (and BSD) distributions.
I'm not an anti Apple person at all, but they get a lot more credit than they deserve.
So... you think Apple only has one team of software engineers or something?
@Zak
They must, since last year they blamed the delay of leopard on having to move people over to the iPhone development.
@Zak, if you were writing to me (?), they have more than one team of engineers, but only so much focus. Why do you think mac.com failed so miserably?
I suppose there will always be people who will buy into the convenience and perceived cachet, (and they will forever be under the impression their peers aren't using Apple because of some ignorance even though Apple rarely creates anything), but it will inevitably fall behind what the best of the Internet has to offer. As a parallel, I am sure, if they could get away with it, they would make their Mac line more of a paid media injection device, but they can't maintain a viable product on that basis.
@ huh: I don't get what your problem is. Are you suggesting Apple is coercing people into using MobileMe? Do you think people who use Apple products are not allowed to use whatever interweb devices that they want? MobileMe provides services for people who want those services. That's it. Just like how Google doesn't force you to use GMail, but it's there if you want it. Just like any hosting company, you don't have to use it but it's there if you want it.
Your "corraling" and "anti-open internet" comments make no sense. Are you that unfamiliar with how it works with Macs? Also, the whole "somebody else did it first" argument is tired and irrelevant. Apple isn't claiming they did it first. End of argument.
mobile me is a complete disaster. they should have kept their service free as a part of a beta program with limited seats and invites (similar to what google did with gmail). then when it was READY then and only then it should have went live. Jobsy is just too damn greedy.
Am I missing something? I thought this story was about the app store and possible ways to circumvent its DRM, not another place for a minority to winge about MobileMe. Fair play if you want to make your case, but quit using every story to play that tune!
@Zak, no, I am just commenting in bemusement as Apple makes the same mistake twice, and adding the app store point for conversation, and a sideways point about the GPL. If you don't like it, you can low rank it. As a matter of fact I would love it if comments could be politely debated as a form of constructive debate, but that's asking a lot out of people who expect (want) things to be a certain way.