While boasting a fraction of
DirectX usage in the gaming market,
OpenGL hasn't been sitting around while Microsoft eats its lunch. Long favored as a foundation for cross platform games like World of Warcraft, and historically used by id Software to famous effect, the API just hit the 3.0 in a major reworking of the library.
NVIDIA has had a hand in the API, and has wasted no time in releasing graphics drivers for the newly minted standard. The beta code supports GeForce 8000 series cards or higher on the desktop and laptop sides, and implements all of OpenGL 3.0 and the GLSL 1.30 shading language with just a few exceptions. Naturally, users won't be getting much out of this right off the bat, the beta drivers are mainly meant for developers looking to build software that takes advantage of 3.0, but it's nice to see a GPU builder hand-in-hand with a next gen graphics API and supporting it out of the gate on existing cards. And would you look at those screenshots!
posted Aug 14th 2008 5:52PM
Oooooo, new comment system.
Bet its as dodgy as the last though....
Yeah, new comment system is nice.
But can you guys make it so that "Returning" appears first, rather than "New Readers".... save me the click. (ya.. I'm that lazy)
Why? There are likely more new readers than returning. Don't be selfish, now...
Why not have Returning set by default via a cookie. Seems to make the most sense to me.
Engadget made you a cookie. But they eated it. :(
I was going to ask what returning, but then I clicked reply and saw this. What the hell? Also, allowing AOL users to comment without registering? Crap. (I guess technically using this blog makes us AOL users anyway, but meh.)
Like I mentioned before, maybe they should have the "Remember me" actually remember people so we don't have log in every time!
What screenshots?
Lol. They're talking about the screenshot of doom above.
They were making a joke on how many things are available with this new update.
Doom? That's Quake E1M2
I'm sorry. I apologize. I've never played either.
@Mike10010100
...what...? WHAT?
Now you know how to spend the rest of your summer.
You mean all of.....3 days? I'll be spending it reading Democracy In America, thanks.
Turn in your BFG.
Woo, de Tocqueville!
@Mike10010100
Oh! My bad, man. I didn't realize you were that fuckin' cool.
WTF? Just because i haven't played some decrepit old game, i instantly lose all credibility with you people?
You rank me low and yet not the person who couldn't even FIGURE OUT THE JOKE WITH THE SCREENSHOT.
Sheesh.
wow a low rank tangent.....coolness denied.
Mike, you know what can solve this... Just shut up and play the damned game, already. As a matter of fact, I'll tell you how to get it... Just Google "Quake Darkplaces". There is a retooled version of Quake for XP- that's it, and it's free. Unless you're a tool and don't enjoy video games, you will love Quake.
What screenshots?
Quake?
I'm sorry, ID software, its all about CRYTEK now.
whhhhoooossssshhhhh!
id take quake 3 over crysis any day
The latest Quake and Doom are cross platform, and Crysis is Vista only.
I won't touch Vista with a twenty foot pole, so Crysis is completely and totally irrelevant to me.
I just hope nVidia is that snappy with DRI2, kernel mode setting, GEM, and gallium support.
Um, Crysis is fine on XP.You must be thinking of the DirectX 10 very high settings, which is CERN is working on making a reality.
I'd rather them take their time and make sure they work than go for who can get them out as fast as a slapper.
It IS nice of them, but I agree that working > fast
Anyone else finding this new system isn't remembering them?
"""It IS nice of them, but I agree that working > fast"""
That is targeted at (game) developers. It's not that you as gamer would be able to use the new api right away.
In the time games (or other OGL apps) would be developed, the implementation of the api would be also stabilized. So by the time you would have something requiring OGL3.0 to buy, it would be OK already.
P.S. remembered me (in "Returning" tab) OK. Though now you have always click on "Returning". Before - it just worked.
You can comment with AIM now?
no, it just lets you log in using your AOL screen name instead of an engadget login/password
I can't wait for Daikatana!
I can't wait for Daikatana!
john romero's about to make you his bitch... suck it down!
I remember the T-Rex in Jurassic Park used AOl...seriously who does still use AOL. Other than that it's ABOUT TIME you guys moved one finger to enhance the comment system.
Only reason it dropped so quick was that they didn't actually update anything in 3.0. Lots of people are unhappy about the "major reworking" which isn't major at all.
Yeah, 2.1 is good enough for everything I do except the computing stuff, and that's not graphics anymore, that's OCL/CUDA/Brook/Gallium/etc.
Will they resurrect Glide?
This is the engine that'll run RAGE and Quake 4 right,
Yes cletis....
its not a game engine...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL
neat
Ok WTF, Why is this not posting?
The engadget comment system usually displays a post about two other posts later.
It is conspiring against you to make you make a fool out of yourself.
interesting
Is a 8500 a decent card for light gaming, not crysis?
No.
Yep.
I don't think so, the 8600 is pretty bad so the 8500 must be worse. Get an 8600 if you're really that cheap, but I think you might be able to get a Radeon 3850 for around that much and it's miles better than an 8600.
Its not that i'm cheap but i wanna buy a desktop and it has a geforce 8500. I can't add another for sli because there is only that one pcie slot and i know for a fact i can't put a 8800 in without upgrading the power supply.
Do yourself a favor, and do not get yourself a 8500. They are complete rubbish, it gets 43 fps average ( although paired with a dated cpu ) playing hl2, a game most modern cards should easily get 100 fps. IMHO if you are looking for something cheap but still pretty good for gaming go 9600 or the 8800 gt.
Those drivers came out faster than most nvidia graphics cards overheat and die ! Nice to see where their priorities are..............
bleep bleep blop
Why 8800 and above? Can my 7800 not handle the power? :(
uhhhhh nope
the 8800's are based on shader arcetecture that is only used in Direct X10. My guess is that open GL is going to use shaders.
its a different architecture and they did not code the drivers for it. Either cus its beta, or cus the games taht will utilize this wont be able to run smoothly with anything below 8000. Like running windows vista on a 600mhz cpu... (IF it even installed)
get it?
Nvidia also ships out defective GPUs in record speed!
WTF is the point of the "remember me" box when it doesn't cause the default to be "returning". Furthermore, "Returning" (or whatever tab you're not on) looks greyed out.
Good job Khronos Group. If you hurry up you might find some crumbs left in your lunchbox.
New comment system doesn't remember Name and E-mail ??
Thanks for the information. :)
http://www.project-bb.org/
this new comment system is awesome
Yes folks these new drivers are even powerful enough to play such games as Quake and Doom.
Stay tuned Open GL 3.1 will let you play Command and Conquer and Warcraft
Those graphics make me wanna go but a GTX 280 JUST so I can run that beast!