Supercomputer Huygens beats Go professional: no one is safe
By Paul Miller 
posted Aug 15th 2008 12:36AM
posted Aug 15th 2008 12:36AM
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posted Aug 15th 2008 12:36AM
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but will Huygens beat the yellowness out of my teeth?
No but your sister might
Where did everybody Go?
Flashpoint, your post doesn't answer Uchiha's question, and your "joke" isn't even funny.
Fail. Just like pretty much all of your other posts.
Dude... don't make fun of Go players. The game is extremely difficult to master and beat.
Sorry, but although the full Huygens system is indeed 60TF (100 POWER6 P575 nodes at 4.7GHz), only 15TF was used for the Go game (25 nodes).
He gave the computer a pretty big handicap based on those first three games, it wasn't really a fair and even game.
9 stones is a HUGE handicap for the computer. It shows you how far we have to go with computer go, that people are getting excited over this (and despite 60 TFLOPS).
-Carl
"When you can take these nine stones from my hand, Grasshoppercomputer, it will be time for you to leave."
umm wait what game is this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(board_game)
(Oh, Commenting system cut out the close parenthesis. Oops!)
Here's it:
http://ln2.us/8016b2
wow, um so who cares?
and Uchiha Sasuke they really need to make a pun program for that to give you puns
i live in portland oregon =)
You shall be ranked low.. or ranked high.
It's Portland, Oregon so who knows.
"You have Died Of Dysentery."
the hunting was the best feature of that game. they tried to educate me, but i chose not to learn.
"Kyle Allen was bit by a snake"
This just in: The iPhone beat Supercomputer Huygens in a game of Go, officially declared best mobile phone ever.
or not...
fark, u troll threads to try and start iphone bashing comments. wow...
This just in: who? beaten by iPhone. Beaten into a bloody pulp.
Come on, the human professional let the computer put 9 stones on the board first (so called 9 stones handicap). That's far from a fair game to the human professional player. It's just like the human professional had to tie one of his arms and one of his legs to play basketball with the supercomputer player.
60 TERAFLOPS?! TO PLAY A BOARD GAME?!
Jesus, these algorithms need some cleaning up.
"Jesus, these algorithms need some cleaning up."
The go AI community has been trying to do this better for a great number of years, but there are some very tough challenges involved with teaching computers to play go well.
Also, I'd like to say that a nine-stone handicap is a huge, huge advantage. Not only is it nine free moves at the start of the game for the computer, but it makes the computer's job much easier. By having nine stones on the board, the computer effectively gets to sidestep its worst phase of the game, the opening, and move right into something it is much better at, tactical fighting.
bet it'd still lose to a cheeky japanese kid possessed by a thousand-year old spirit though.
But Hikaru! I need to play~
'Hikaru no Go' for those not in the know...awesome anime.
Unfortunately, it would still be insanely boring to watch
Actually I found Hikaru no GO fun to watch and had me learn something about a game i knew nothing about.
Still, I mean one human vs. 60 teraflops and the computer got a handicap?
60 Teraflops?????
Cmon, let's "GO" HOME!
LOL!
And it takes a 1 GHz laptop to beat me in a game of Checkers.
in soviet russia the computer plays you in checkers
Oh, yeah, let's see you beat a hyoo-man on an eeepc... huh, what now!
ps. teraflop = blackzilla
But can it play Chess?
lol best comment ever!
This article is surprisingly inaccurate, and I'm pretty surprised. The supercomputer that won was given a 9-stone handicap - the largest handicap that is commonly given. So it is not like the computer wiped the floor with the professional at all. In fact it was an extremely close game. Us go nerds will continue to know that we are still better than the computers. For those interested in learning about go, check out www.gokgs.com for a go server and www.playgo.to/interactive/ to learn how to play. The link to the game file is here: http://files.gokgs.com/games/2008/8/7/MyungWan-MoGoTiTan-4.sgf Also, I'm not sure where the name Hyugens came from - the program's name is MoGo. Maybe Hyugens is the computer it ran on.
The article is certainly a bit sensationalist considering the handicap, but given rates of computing power increase, it's certainly a noteworthy event. Kim gave an estimation of the computer's skill afterwards - he pegged it at 2-3 dan.
Never mind the fact that the player beat the computer multiple times in tests before the actual 'match'. That seems to speak more to the computer winning as a random fluke than anything remarkable.
When it can beat a human at Pente or Othello, then get back to us.
I didn't believe it, and I'm glad I read the actual page. The computer won with a 9-stone handicap. Which is probably the equivalent of playing a person in chess with only half of your starting pieces. PLEASE PLEASE edit the article.
It's important to note that the game wasn't even -- it was a maximum (9 stones) handicap game. Still, it's a great advancement of computer Go.
The game record can be found here: http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/myungwan-mogo.sgf
article is extremely inaccurate. 9 stones handicap and no mention on the level of the "professional" player. still a long way before a computer can really challenge a real human.
Does Engadget nerdy editor know what is GO?
9-stone is not GO.
Come on Engadget, don't be so innocent. You gotta understand the stuff before you comment.
and Please bring yourself a pair of glasses and turn on the light when you read.
Here is the original research report.
http://www.sara.nl/news/press/20080813/Go_computer_victory_eng.html
Amsterdam/Portland, August 13, 2008 - At the 24th Annual Congress of the game Go, held in Portland, Oregon from August 2-10, the brand-new Dutch supercomputer Huygens defeated a human Go professional in an official match with a 9-stones handicap. It is the first victory of a computer playing Go against a human being. The application 'MoGo Titan', developed by INRIA France and Maastricht University, runs on the national supercomputer which is located at SARA Computing an Networking Services in Amsterdam.
I'll be impressed with the machine when it moves over to Engadget and actually helps monitor the articles and comment boards... that'd be an impressive computer!
The computer was an IBM Power 575 Hydro-Cluster system peaking at 60 trillion calculations per second (Teraflop/s), posessing 3328 Power6 processor cores at 4.7 GHz, a total memory capacity of more than 15 TB, and almost 1000 TB disk capacity. I find it somehow oddly comforting for the human race yet, that it managed to only narrowly win given that huge 9-stone handicap...
... yes, and load a single Youtube video, all at the SAME TIME!
KIMI GA IIIIMA....
*sigh* i used to love the Hikaru no Go theme song
Wasn't this the game played in the commons area in the movie, "A Beautiful Mind"?
Who named the computer anyway? What a stupid name ...
Yeah, the posting does leave much the of truth out, but I'm loving the reactions in the comments. Does hoping for the day the best Go master is second banana to a machine make me a bad person?