We can think of about fifteen plain-vanilla EDGE flips from Samsung that we'd expect T-Mobile to launch ahead of something like this, but you're definitely not going to see us complaining. TmoNews is claiming that the guys and gals in
pink magenta have an ace up their collective sleeve in the form of
Samsung's F480 Tocco -- or really, an Americanized version of it dubbed T919. Naturally, the US version goes through the usual dilution, losing the front-facing cam -- but on the upside, it manages to hang on to the
really important stuff like a 3G radio (AWS, we'd assume), GPS, and 5 megapixel cam. There's no telling when it'll be on sale, but if we know our carriers -- and we think we know 'em pretty well -- they'll want it on store shelves in plenty of time for the holiday season.
posted Aug 16th 2008 5:10PM
Is that pronounced like "taco"?
Please die in a fire.
Baby, let's make a run for the border,
I've got a hunger only Toccos can stop.
I know exactly what I'll order
three Toccos, two tostadas, and a soda pop.
that thing looks pretty damn slick and with a 5mp cam and a well put-together OS from sammy, this could be a pretty big hit for tmo. very nice.
Samsung != well put together OS.
@Bender
+1 for the C++ reference
3G for a system that doesn't have a proper 3G network. I'm guessing if they are maintaining the 3G that it will comply to T-Mo US' funky frequencies. I also assume it won't be available until some time in 2009.
Why remove the front facing camera? Do they not want you to try video conferencing over EDGE.
T-Mobile "funky" frequencies is all they've got to work with.
no, I'm not for sale. Sorry.
Everyone has a price.
3 engadget taboos in one post. Impressive. Next time, go for "Can it play Doom", "Will it play Crysis", and/or "Will it blend?"
That was supposed to be a reply to the 1st post. Looks like they still haven't fixed the comments
oh the 1st post got deleted, that's why
Keep digging...
As someone who's already played with this phone (Tmo employee...)
It will launch in November, with an 'upper-tier' price point.
It does have 3G, obviously, but no WiFi. This means no wifi internet and no Hotspot@Home (dumb omission.).
The OS is not good to me. As I've said before: It's NOT a smartphone, regardless of how it looks. It's a very sexy, high tech dumbphone.
For example: It has no onscreen QWERTY. Want to type a message? The interface that pops up is like on a normal phone: "abc" "def" "ghi", etc, etc. It's absolutely horrible, but it was clearly designed for normal Samsung users to have an easy transition.
The haptics are awful. I don't know if it's meant to be true haptic like the ROKR or what, but when you touch it, you feel a non-localized vibration. Almost useless.
The OS itself gets the job done, but the icons look low-res (look up the F480 pics for example, it's almost the same,) and I personally don't feel the screen realestate is being used to it's potential.
On the whole, good hardware that needs good software+wifi to be a real winner.
I've tried this phone, too, and it's truly awful compared to any competitor. Horrible, slow, inaccurate menus and bad sound quality from the speaker. Stay away from this one.
Yeah I played with this cellphone already and it does suck.
oh no! this makes me sad =(. I thought this phone was gonna be my alternative to you know what.
Do you or any of the other people replying to your post have any intelligence whatsoever? A pre-release phone is not equal to a released phone. That means that many of the bugs you've mentioned will hopefully be fixed before its released. Of course, you're probably not an actual T-Mobile employee, as an actual T-Mobile employee would not reveal their identity for fear of losing their job, plus your info on the phone is wrong. Don't go shooting your mouth off how bad or good a phone is before it is released, as there's still plenty of time to fix or break issues.
Err... it's already out in the UK.
Each carrier has different versions, and in some cases, different OS's. It's highly likely that Samsung had to build a complete new OS to support the MyFaves application, thus it is still a pre-release cell phone for T-Mobile.
And if I decline?
you forgot to say that you like pie.
Mods (do they exist?) please ban this user... None of his remarks ever contribute to the discussion.
It would be my pleasure.
Ever since I was a kid, I always thought Blondie should have finished you off!
hahaha... There actually was a user who was spamming stupid comments and Engadget banned him. Now it looks like I'm asking Engadget to ban myself. lol
Xeno. I'd just be happy if he died. I'm sick of trolls. Be they MS Apple Sony Etc. I wish I could make a version of Ebola that would target the asshats in the world. I would set out a chair on the front lawn with a bowl of popcorn and watch people die....wait...that would make me an asshat...damn...
No keyboard == No sale....for me at least. Bring on Android and the Dream.
Another decent touch screen phone...
This phone is inside a T-Mobile store, I can tell from the cabinets and carpet, I see this lousy carpet all day. So would it be safe to assume that this is coming fairly soon?
This looks cool, but no WiFi & no full keyboard = A big freakin' fail for me.
And with the recent news of the HTC Dream (Android) phone not having GPS, this also does me no good.
T-Mobile, you're breakin' my balls here. For the love of God, dont make me switch to the dark side (AT&T) just to get some decent phones (iPhone/HTC Touch Pro).
I think captchas should be introduced to stop idiots, as well as bots, from creating accounts.
Also, if general inane stupidity is not bannable, then how about having two accounts: http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/16/more-treo-pro-details-emerge/comments/13731607/ ?
I don't get why they took out the Wi-fi.
I live in the country, I get no 3G!
Plus I'm one of the few people who have Hotspot@Home, it'd be amazing if I could merge it with my cell phone and save me some minutes.
This is a lovely looking phone, but rather disappointing.
this phone never had wifi
Here's a question slightly related to the phone. Why does T-Mo, At&t remove the front facing cameras?
Because they know people will get angry when they can't use it for video calling.
Hey, look! A cool phone for me to not get reception with! Thanks T-Mobile!
i like sauce on my tacos.
That's nice for you.
Well maybe tacos dont like sauce being put on them. Ever think of that? Just because I'm a taco doesn't mean I don't have feelings!
Lol, im a real user but I hate when fanboys come in here and try to put down a good looking cellphone.
you really call this good looking?
i think it looks like the retro 70's
the buttons under samsung look horrid in my opinion
and the rest look a little cheaper than the iphone which is even worse!~
I really want some better phones from T-Mobile...
so, for the t-mobile employees, what will be the price range?
$100-200?
$200-300?
$300+?
I like my tacos pink.
I think the greatest thing T-Mo can do for itself right now is come up with a pink version of this. I think I would buy it for someone else, even. Likely a close friend, just so I can say this:
"Hey, can I make a quick phone call on your pink taco?"
The F480 never had GPS to start off with.. so I wonder how it's managed to "hang on" to that feature in the American version.
hilarious title, "beefy tocco", i'm sure it gives indigestion
I like Samsung products in general but I'd never consider one of their phones because of the proprietary charger/data connector.
Seriously, Mini-USB isn't too difficult people.