Vista has sold more copies in 18 months than every copy of MacOS combined, so I wouldn't go calling it unpopular. Enterprise users are always slow to upgrade to new OSes.
Did they sell because people actually wanted it, or because there are no viable alternatives (monopoly on OS) and they had no choice (OEM)? Please, don't be a fanboy, its just sad.
At least mac and linux users use those products because they actually like them and find them useful. In a MS world, you "have" to use them, whether you like it or not, and you are more locked than most of you care to admit.
In what land are you prevented from: 1) Buying a Mac 2) Buying or building a PC or PCs with Linux on them
Just because demand for these products is low doesn't mean everyone is in some kind of "prison." There is all the opportunity in the world for everyone to migrate away right now. It's just that the benefits gained in a migration don't merit the money spent (or any/all perceived losses of a platform switch) to the majority of folks so they stick with something they know that works well enough for them.
And Vista outsold OS X long before XP was removed from the market, I'm sure. :)
tha-don, you must be an idiot if you think that people buy Macs for the hardware alone. All Macs sold can run Windows XP and Windows Vista. However, have you ever heard of someone buying a Mac and using solely an MS OS on it? I dual boot, and I know others who dual and triple boot, but noone buys a Mac and puts just XP or Vista on it. People buy Apple for the OS, not the hardware, for the hardware can be cheaper had elsewhere. You can get Macbook Pro spec'd hardware for a thousand dollars less from Dell or HP, and you can get superior hardware from Sony. Your comment makes sense until you actually think about it.
"People buy Apple for the OS, not the hardware, for the hardware can be cheaper had elsewhere. You can get Macbook Pro spec'd hardware for a thousand dollars less from Dell or HP, and you can get superior hardware from Sony."
thanks for proving my point. what are you trying to argue?
za just got pwnt. apple forces you to purchase its hardware in order to run its os. with windows i can purchase whatever x86 or x64 based hardware i want.
ali, i fail to see how i am being "locked" in. i can purchase a computer with windows on it, i can purchase an apple computer and put windows on it, i can purchase a computer with windows on it and dual-boot/replace it with linux. soooo... how am i being "locked" into anything in microsoft's ecosystem?
It always amuses me when someone says "Well on a Mac you can run Windows!" because on a Windows PC we don't actually have to run another operating system to use the programs we want.
- locked? you mean like being forced to buy your hardware from the same company that makes the OS?
It's called a complete solution, and forced is not a word to describe it. windows not walls....... how about an open door, maybe even an open source door. time to think outside the box MS has you crammed in.
its funny to see MS steal ideas, as well as your money but you will sit here and praise it to no end because its THE new os right??? MS is not the future of computers they are showing what they really are.... a phase, and sooner than later you are all going to wake up and see it, you will still hate me but thats okay im just saying it how it is.
its getting easier and easier for open source tools and commercial software that supports it work in the hands of regular users to admins around the world..... as if it wasnt easy enough already if you all think your as smart as you say you are.
- commence the hating now. i can care less because im trying to help you.
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Vista has sold more copies in 18 months than every copy of MacOS combined, so I wouldn't go calling it unpopular. Enterprise users are always slow to upgrade to new OSes.
Did they sell because people actually wanted it, or because there are no viable alternatives (monopoly on OS) and they had no choice (OEM)? Please, don't be a fanboy, its just sad.
At least mac and linux users use those products because they actually like them and find them useful. In a MS world, you "have" to use them, whether you like it or not, and you are more locked than most of you care to admit.
locked? you mean like being forced to buy your hardware from the same company that makes the OS?
In what land are you prevented from:
1) Buying a Mac
2) Buying or building a PC or PCs with Linux on them
Just because demand for these products is low doesn't mean everyone is in some kind of "prison." There is all the opportunity in the world for everyone to migrate away right now. It's just that the benefits gained in a migration don't merit the money spent (or any/all perceived losses of a platform switch) to the majority of folks so they stick with something they know that works well enough for them.
And Vista outsold OS X long before XP was removed from the market, I'm sure. :)
tha-don, you must be an idiot if you think that people buy Macs for the hardware alone. All Macs sold can run Windows XP and Windows Vista. However, have you ever heard of someone buying a Mac and using solely an MS OS on it? I dual boot, and I know others who dual and triple boot, but noone buys a Mac and puts just XP or Vista on it. People buy Apple for the OS, not the hardware, for the hardware can be cheaper had elsewhere. You can get Macbook Pro spec'd hardware for a thousand dollars less from Dell or HP, and you can get superior hardware from Sony. Your comment makes sense until you actually think about it.
"People buy Apple for the OS, not the hardware, for the hardware can be cheaper had elsewhere. You can get Macbook Pro spec'd hardware for a thousand dollars less from Dell or HP, and you can get superior hardware from Sony."
thanks for proving my point. what are you trying to argue?
za just got pwnt. apple forces you to purchase its hardware in order to run its os. with windows i can purchase whatever x86 or x64 based hardware i want.
ali, i fail to see how i am being "locked" in. i can purchase a computer with windows on it, i can purchase an apple computer and put windows on it, i can purchase a computer with windows on it and dual-boot/replace it with linux. soooo... how am i being "locked" into anything in microsoft's ecosystem?
please, don't be a fanboy, it's just sad.
@za
It always amuses me when someone says "Well on a Mac you can run Windows!" because on a Windows PC we don't actually have to run another operating system to use the programs we want.
- locked? you mean like being forced to buy your hardware from the same company that makes the OS?
It's called a complete solution, and forced is not a word to describe it. windows not walls....... how about an open door, maybe even an open source door. time to think outside the box MS has you crammed in.
its funny to see MS steal ideas, as well as your money but you will sit here and praise it to no end because its THE new os right??? MS is not the future of computers they are showing what they really are.... a phase, and sooner than later you are all going to wake up and see it, you will still hate me but thats okay im just saying it how it is.
its getting easier and easier for open source tools and commercial software that supports it work in the hands of regular users to admins around the world..... as if it wasnt easy enough already if you all think your as smart as you say you are.
- commence the hating now. i can care less because im trying to help you.