Let's list a few things showing how Archos 5G is much better then the Nokia N810:
- Video recording with EPG,
* "The EPG for the Archos is a joke and you know it. It hardly works correctly and the sad part is you've got to pay for it after a year.
- DVB-T freeview tuner dock,
* "A lot of good that does us outside of Europe."
- USB-host for transfering pictures from digital camera, for emptying SD cards on your Archos hard drive storage, for connecting external hard drives.
* "With the size of SD memory cards in digital camera's these days up to 32GB's. If you've got to transfer 32 GB's worth of photos from your digital camera to your Archos to clear out space, then you really need to ask yourself why, especially if it's a hell of lot easier to replace your digital camera card with another inexpensive SD backup rather than the hassle of transferring it to your Archos.
* The Nokia can also connect an external hard drive. You need to look at the N810 forum
* The Archos is a media machine; it's not productive on a professional level like the Nokia. It may have a faster processor temporarily, but when the next gen Nokia N900 comes out, everything you mentioned as a plus, won't really be a plus. "
Only temporary advantages of N810:
- Pretty bad thumb keyboard (Archos 5G could support full sized foldable USB keyboards on its USB-host)
* N810 supports full size foldable bluetooth keyboards plus there's nothing wrong with the built in virtual Keyboard and if you spend time with the actual built in keyboard, you can type pretty fast. I can do 30wmp on it. The 605wifi's virtual keyboard is pretty bad. Hope the Archos 5 and 7 are improved.
- Pretty bad software (Archos 5G could use Google Android as the OS on a firmware upgrade, just a guess.. just as you can in theory install Google Android on a hacked Nokia N810)
* "All software is open source on the N810 out of the box. There's a large community out there working on programs for the Nokia which are all free. Can you say the same for the archos. and I doubt too many people are going to replace Archos's operating system with android and if Archos did offer you added on anything, they'll probably charge you. That's the archos way. There's even Nintendo game emulators for the Nokia.
Question? * Can you do word processing on the Archos - Abiword can for the Nokia Do you have access to contacts/todo list/ calender - GPE installed on Nokia ( you've got to be online for google docs to work) Can you play games like Id's quake on the Archos - Nokia can port linux games, emulator games, etc. Can you control your cable box and DVR from your Archos - Nokia can using Hava player software and hardware which by the way is a huge improvement over the EPG when used with a DVR cable box. Can you take Archos's GPS out of the car and walk around with it - No Do you have map access to more countries than Europe and North American on the Archos - No Can the Archos use Skype? No Is the battery removable on the Archos 5 or 7? No Can you leave your archos on standby for 10 days or 20 days with the added 3600 battery which can run for 14 hours? No Can you run thousands of Palm applications on the Nokia? You can on the Nokia with the Garnet Emulator.
I owned the 605wifi 80GB plus Dock and it was more hassle that it was worth, plus it crashed a lot. It played movies well, had a nice screen, but that's about it. The audio sucked coming out of it for music, the remote rarely changed the cable box's channel to record anything from the dock, and customer service was abysmal. When the N900 comes out, then that would be a good matchup for comparison. Until then, all you've got is a new chip in a fancy new box, but it's the same old Archos.
Nokia Maemo apps are nothing more then basic PDA style applications. There's nothing powerful going on with those apps. You don't have a powerful DSP to use to accelerate Multimedia features. It's basically mostly the same bunch of crappy applications that power 5 year old PDAs.
If you are the type that use calendars and wanabee word processing software on a pocket device, then Nokia is for you.
But if you want built-in HSDPA in your pocket device, if you want FULL codecs, FULL resolutions, native streaming Internet multimedia standards supported. If you want a device that supports your video and audio collection. A device that can replace your Tivo and your Slingbox, that can replace your Blu-ray player and your mediastreamer, that can replace your iPod Touch and exceeds the media abillities of any PDA or Nokia tablet ever released, the Archos 5G is the only device to do what it does.
The type of apps that are going to be worth having are going to be on Google Android OS, no matter how you spin things on Nokia's Linux Mobile implementations. Google Android is by definition going to be the standard for embedded Linux, and all the useful social networking applications, localization applications, instant messaging applications, pocket Google apps applications, all those are going to be on Google Android and not on Nokia's maemo, no matter how large you say the Maemo community is. Nokia does not support its community by not releasing hardware that has built in HDSPA, not releasing any device that supports the Internet standard for DVD quality video which is full DivX support, that does not support the Internet standard for embedded video streaming which is Flash video (Nokia does not play it smoothly in full screen). Nokia does not provide storage in their products (for fear of carriers being angry at users using too much bandwidth to download a lot of stuff). I hope that Nokia will do something good with the N900, but I don't think Nokia wants to do those things, and I think you won't be seing Nokia using Google Android OS on their devices just yet just by them prefering to sticking to their principles.
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Let's list a few things showing how Archos 5G is much better then the Nokia N810:
- Video recording with EPG,
* "The EPG for the Archos is a joke and you know it. It hardly works correctly and the sad part is you've got to pay for it after a year.
- DVB-T freeview tuner dock,
* "A lot of good that does us outside of Europe."
- USB-host for transfering pictures from digital camera, for emptying SD cards on your Archos hard drive storage, for connecting external hard drives.
* "With the size of SD memory cards in digital camera's these days up to 32GB's. If you've got to transfer 32 GB's worth of photos from your digital camera to your Archos to clear out space, then you really need to ask yourself why, especially if it's a hell of lot easier to replace your digital camera card with another inexpensive SD backup rather than the hassle of transferring it to your Archos.
* The Nokia can also connect an external hard drive. You need to look at the N810 forum
* The Archos is a media machine; it's not productive on a professional level like the Nokia. It may have a faster processor temporarily, but when the next gen Nokia N900 comes out, everything you mentioned as a plus, won't really be a plus. "
Only temporary advantages of N810:
- Pretty bad thumb keyboard (Archos 5G could support full sized foldable USB keyboards on its USB-host)
* N810 supports full size foldable bluetooth keyboards plus there's nothing wrong with the built in virtual Keyboard and if you spend time with the actual built in keyboard, you can type pretty fast. I can do 30wmp on it. The 605wifi's virtual keyboard is pretty bad. Hope the Archos 5 and 7 are improved.
- Pretty bad software (Archos 5G could use Google Android as the OS on a firmware upgrade, just a guess.. just as you can in theory install Google Android on a hacked Nokia N810)
* "All software is open source on the N810 out of the box. There's a large community out there working on programs for the Nokia which are all free. Can you say the same for the archos. and I doubt too many people are going to replace Archos's operating system with android and if Archos did offer you added on anything, they'll probably charge you. That's the archos way. There's even Nintendo game emulators for the Nokia.
Question?
*
Can you do word processing on the Archos - Abiword can for the Nokia
Do you have access to contacts/todo list/ calender - GPE installed on Nokia ( you've got to be online for google docs to work)
Can you play games like Id's quake on the Archos - Nokia can port linux games, emulator games, etc.
Can you control your cable box and DVR from your Archos - Nokia can using Hava player software and hardware which by the way is a huge improvement over the EPG when used with a DVR cable box.
Can you take Archos's GPS out of the car and walk around with it - No
Do you have map access to more countries than Europe and North American on the Archos - No
Can the Archos use Skype? No
Is the battery removable on the Archos 5 or 7? No
Can you leave your archos on standby for 10 days or 20 days with the added 3600 battery which can run for 14 hours? No
Can you run thousands of Palm applications on the Nokia? You can on the Nokia with the Garnet Emulator.
I owned the 605wifi 80GB plus Dock and it was more hassle that it was worth, plus it crashed a lot. It played movies well, had a nice screen, but that's about it. The audio sucked coming out of it for music, the remote rarely changed the cable box's channel to record anything from the dock, and customer service was abysmal. When the N900 comes out, then that would be a good matchup for comparison. Until then, all you've got is a new chip in a fancy new box, but it's the same old Archos.
Nokia Maemo apps are nothing more then basic PDA style applications. There's nothing powerful going on with those apps. You don't have a powerful DSP to use to accelerate Multimedia features. It's basically mostly the same bunch of crappy applications that power 5 year old PDAs.
If you are the type that use calendars and wanabee word processing software on a pocket device, then Nokia is for you.
But if you want built-in HSDPA in your pocket device, if you want FULL codecs, FULL resolutions, native streaming Internet multimedia standards supported. If you want a device that supports your video and audio collection. A device that can replace your Tivo and your Slingbox, that can replace your Blu-ray player and your mediastreamer, that can replace your iPod Touch and exceeds the media abillities of any PDA or Nokia tablet ever released, the Archos 5G is the only device to do what it does.
The type of apps that are going to be worth having are going to be on Google Android OS, no matter how you spin things on Nokia's Linux Mobile implementations. Google Android is by definition going to be the standard for embedded Linux, and all the useful social networking applications, localization applications, instant messaging applications, pocket Google apps applications, all those are going to be on Google Android and not on Nokia's maemo, no matter how large you say the Maemo community is. Nokia does not support its community by not releasing hardware that has built in HDSPA, not releasing any device that supports the Internet standard for DVD quality video which is full DivX support, that does not support the Internet standard for embedded video streaming which is Flash video (Nokia does not play it smoothly in full screen). Nokia does not provide storage in their products (for fear of carriers being angry at users using too much bandwidth to download a lot of stuff). I hope that Nokia will do something good with the N900, but I don't think Nokia wants to do those things, and I think you won't be seing Nokia using Google Android OS on their devices just yet just by them prefering to sticking to their principles.