Seinfeld and Gates pair up for intense shoe-fitting session, cryptic advertisement

As promised, Gates and Seinfeld made their television pair-up debut tonight, in an advertisement for something or other. We were sad to see Seinfeld sans-bee suit, and Gates is lacking in Costanza-isms, but we might just be looking at a beautiful friendship here. Video is after the break.

[Thanks to everyone who sent this in]

[cboy007 @ Sep 4th 2008 9:54PM]

interesting....just....interesting.

[d00b @ Sep 4th 2008 10:03PM]

It's a set-up ad for a multi-episode roll-out. This skit introduces the characters and establishes the mood & tone for their relationship. Think of it as a first act in a serial. The punch line won't come until several skits later.

[who? @ Sep 4th 2008 10:06PM]

Yeah, it was like a preview for a new episode of Seinfeld. Maybe Bill Gates is resurrecting the show with himself as a new co-star. Hmm... If it weren't for the logo at the end...

[d00b @ Sep 4th 2008 10:19PM]

The point here is to begin to create rapport with the audience. Remember, the objective is to persuade you to like Vista (better). Jumping straight off into a sales pitch will hardly do that, especially that most of us already know Vista and have an opinion about it. This isn't an expository ad for a new, unknown product where you can just rattle off some stats & pretty pictures.

Changing people's formed opinion is hard. I expect several more of skits like this, to establish empathy and likeability for the characters, before getting into any specific product endorsements. Gates & Seinfeld are naturally likeable personalities, so they have a head start, but it's still an uphill battle.

[fred @ Sep 4th 2008 10:30PM]

@d00b

After all of the stupid EXPECTED comments from the Mac fanatics, it's honestly refreshing to hear someone who actually gets it.

[UnixSystemsEngineer @ Sep 4th 2008 10:37PM]

Good description. I chuckled a bit. It has promise, we'll have to see where they take it.

[TareX @ Sep 4th 2008 10:49PM]

Nothing will change my opinion on Vista. Just installed it on my sister's laptop. It is not fun to get to places. There are way too many "small" gripes, and it has plenty of unnecessary loops.

Aesthetically it's not bad. But it's a step back from XP, which -IMO- peaked in simplicity and user friendliness with no compromise in function. AND was not from Apple.

[Blackstar @ Sep 4th 2008 10:53PM]

So... it's an Ad campaign about... nothing?

[maveric101 @ Sep 4th 2008 10:56PM]

@tarex

i used XP for like 7 years, been using vista for like 6 months, and i already find it easier to find things on vista. main reason? the search funtions. in the start bar, and also the search in the control panel. makes things much easier.

[ALCie @ Sep 4th 2008 11:01PM]

"Nothing will change my opinion on Vista."
"So... it's an Ad campaign about... nothing?"
even more interesting...

I liked it. Makes me want to watch more... or an episode of Seinfeld, which ever is on first.

[Albert @ Sep 5th 2008 3:19PM]

@d00b: Very, VERY well said. Hadn't even thought about it like that, but it makes perfect sense. It would be very interesting to see this develop as a "story" where people might actually be interested in catching the newest installment. And all throughout...they get temptations to maybe try out the "moist" and "chewy" Windows.

[Jeff @ Sep 5th 2008 12:12AM]

My experience with Vista 64-bit has been a very positive one. It stays fast and it has great features. Ever since I switched to Vista 64, I have never experienced a blue screen once and its very stable. The problem is that the mindset of the average customer is already bad. I hope this turns out to be a success because a lot of people are missing out on a great operating system.

Please note I own both a Mac and a PC.

[joshc @ Sep 5th 2008 12:53AM]

@ doob

I really have to agree with you there, its not about showing off what vista can do, but more on what people think of it. I was very against changing from xp to vista and had a lot of negative thoughts but when I upgraded my pc I was pursuaded by a friend to try it out and I have to say that I think it's great. A few things have moved around and I had to get used to it. overall it is a very nice system.

[halogenrep @ Sep 5th 2008 1:02AM]

interesting and it's charming too.

[Kelmon @ Sep 5th 2008 2:30AM]

@d00b

Oh, dear god, no. I know at times the ads can be better than the program you were watching but we certainly don't need adverts to build themselves into a series. Just tell us what you are selling and bugger off. If you think I'm going to be tuning in next week for the Bill & Jerry Show, you've got another thing coming.

Incidentally, whatever happened to the "Gold Blend" couple?

[ynx @ Sep 5th 2008 3:23AM]

@Jeff.

I installed Vista-64 on my 1 year laptop computer. After clawing the internets for a driver (this issue reminded me of linux) and finally getting to install them all, it just didn't want to work well! I would start up my computer and wait 3 minutes so that i could use the goddamn bugger. And it just kept slowing down. Now I like how they have made changes to the file locations like C:\Users or similar, and how I can zoom in on icons like on the mac. The search function was really great. However, Aero would go crazy, it would make links unclickable. So I could never really use it. And the slow booting time and the stupid hard drive spinning moments bastardized the experience to me. Great to see people like you enjoying it, because I wish I could. XP lacks many features.

[Meridimus @ Sep 5th 2008 4:27AM]

I loved it. It seemed really wierd and I like that. I like that MS has gone that way, rather than the "I have an ipod, check out my latest itunes purchase, did I tell you I have an iphone, oh wait — you seen this thing, it beats windows hands down. Yeah, mac just does it for me oh yeah honey" — That makes me cringe.

Oh and I forget Mac just works http://www.flickr.com/photos/scriptingnews/152166797/

[giuliop @ Sep 5th 2008 5:58AM]

"i already find it easier to find things on vista. main reason? the search funtions."

How ironic. So it's easier not because they organised things better than they were in XP - which was already quite a mess - but because they just added lots of things cluelessly where no one could find them by simple logic, gave up, and "solved" the problem with a search function. What a good way of solving problems.

[Ogo @ Sep 5th 2008 7:28AM]

@ Jeff

My first reaction to your post is "how sad is it that we can cheer today's popular operating systems for the fact they do not give us a blue screen or a sad mac?"

Operating systems shouldn't crash.... we have just become accustomed to saving often, restarting, and crashes.

[Bucky @ Sep 5th 2008 8:26AM]

@Kelmon: "we certainly don't need adverts to build themselves into a series."
Ever watch Heroes? Or Extreme Makeover Home Edition? Product placement in television shows is nothing new. The companies are just subtle about doing it. There is no "Buy my Nissan Versa and Rogue, now!", but they feature prominent spots in the show.

[Mustaine @ Sep 5th 2008 8:47AM]

There's subtle messages through it.
Look what Jerry is eating. It's an apple strudel. He's an apple consumer and he's sucked in by the sugar coating.
The flock of sheep/people are all eating strudels too and yet they are still fixated on what is happening inside the 'window'
Bill is wearing the conquistador shoe. Bill and windows are the conquistadors of the software world...and as the shop sign says..cheaper.
The shoe seems rigid and unflexible and might not seem to fit, as is the general consensus (they're tight) .. but wait, maybe it really is a flexible shoe.





http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=556832
23 pages of a mac forum and nobody gets it.

[allislost @ Sep 5th 2008 9:00AM]

@Mustaine

They are eating a "churro" not "strudel".

[Mustaine @ Sep 5th 2008 9:19AM]

Ahh, OK. Being an Australian, I have never heard of a Churro, but damn they look nice.

[fanman @ Sep 5th 2008 10:19AM]

I'm glad that they haven't got into apple-esque mud slinging. I like people who don't boast and aren't vulgar, but are friendly and civilised if you are interested in getting to know them. By not boasting or ridiculing, microsoft have taken full advantage or the political and moral high ground that apple have so generously surrendered.

[Harvey @ Sep 5th 2008 11:13AM]

I showed the commercial to my wife this morning, and her reaction was "Oh my God!". She said she wanted 3 minutes back (an additional one and a half minutes for her suffering).

Out of the commercial's one and a half minutes, a full minute is spent talking about shoes. It's only in the last few seconds that Seinfeld asks Gates about what Microsoft is planning for the future (not what they have that's worth anything right now).

The ad line at the end of the commercial is "The future... delicious". I think they might as well have replaced that with "If you don't like Vista, wait a few years... We'll try again".

And I have to say that watching Bill Gates adjust a wedgie up his butt by wiggling his fat ass is not cute or funny. It's barf-inducing!

If Microsoft had spent that $300-$500 Million on creating a better OS, rather than on these commercials, they would have been much better off. But I think they are counting on the general stupidness of their customers.

[kadajawi @ Sep 5th 2008 11:34AM]

Yeah, interesting describes it quite well. Not sure where they want to go from here, but I'm curious.

Vista... ah well. If you get used to it it's actually not that bad, there are quite a few things to like, and if your computer is too slow to use it, just don't. But there are also quite a few things that annoy the hell out of me. Been wondering why the corporate world does not want to use Vista? I'd imagine some of them use the Cisco VPN stuff, and it is just plain broken on Vista. My uni uses it, and I just hate it. It never works (ok, 1 in 20 times maybe), and I have only met people having problems with it. Such things need to be fixed, I don't care if it's Microsoft's or Cisco's fault, just do whatever necessary to fix it.

[melikespi @ Sep 4th 2008 9:56PM]

Hilarious! I want more!

fp =P

[pito189 @ Sep 5th 2008 12:35AM]

I saw it, I love Seinfeld but it was just not funny not even a little chuckle. I was disappointed.

Hopefully the rest of them will be funny?

[Matt @ Sep 5th 2008 1:29AM]

I don't know about you, but I got a chuckle out of seeing his mugshot on that membership card. I thought that was wonderfully tongue-in-cheek.

[Zeke @ Sep 5th 2008 2:21AM]

@Matt-

Nice catch! I had to rewind to notice that one...

[Will H. @ Sep 5th 2008 3:54AM]

The old school "William Gates" photo was my favorite too. I'll watch more of these ads. It wont make me love Microsoft though, unlike the apple ads, which make me LOVE APPLE *brainwashed*

[Mustaine @ Sep 5th 2008 8:18AM]

that's because you didn't have canned laughter telling you something was funny.

[DZ @ Sep 4th 2008 9:56PM]

Saw it... It was very meh. Just meh.

[Izzy @ Sep 5th 2008 7:52AM]

Exactly. I watched it and didn't know what it was supposed to be. Two old guys chatting about shoes and tasty PC's. They need to run ads like Bud Light and Miller Lite used to, lots of hot chicks. Less filling, tastes great = Lots faster, doesn't crash.

[fanman @ Sep 5th 2008 10:26AM]

It isn't meh, it's contented with what it is, with about any pretensions. That is the message of the advert.

[Zeus @ Sep 4th 2008 9:57PM]

Hmmmm...Churros.

[mike @ Sep 4th 2008 9:57PM]

WTF was that? Cake? Head Explodes.

[Richard Lai @ Sep 4th 2008 10:07PM]

The cake is a lie.

[EQB @ Sep 4th 2008 10:40PM]

Ahh, now we know the REAL name of Windows 7:

Generally Less Annoying/Destructive Operating System

GLADOS for short.

[who? @ Sep 4th 2008 11:01PM]

No cake for you.

[XIYL @ Sep 5th 2008 12:55AM]

Ah, Portal jokes.

[r3loaded @ Sep 5th 2008 10:01AM]

Weighted Companion Cube in Windows 7 sidebar ftw.

I like the subtlety of the adverts as opposed to the intolerable smugness of the Mac guy.

[Sachin @ Sep 5th 2008 7:03PM]

you can't have your cake and eat it too.

[L8on @ Sep 4th 2008 9:57PM]

yeah I saw this during the game and though I saw the store about the upcoming ads, I was a little lost. I guess I was expecting them to be more blatant like the Mac vs. PC ads...

[shimmy shimmy yah @ Sep 5th 2008 3:45AM]

thats because mac vs pc ads appeal to a generation of numb minds.... people who dont think for themselves based on experiences or solid facts, just what the cool kids do and they perceive to be cool. it is a sad state of affairs that society is coming too. i enjoyed the ad, i'd reccon the others will be funny and more to the point.

[Classic IBMPC @ Sep 5th 2008 4:37AM]

So, back when Apple was supposed to go bankrupt in the late 90's everyone was saying you shouldn't get a mac because everybody uses WIndows. Jump on the WIndows bandwagon because Apple is going to go bankrupt.

Almost ten years later the argument is that because Apple has been growing in popularity, you should stay away from it. Because it's clearly a yes-man kind of thing... all the cool kids are doing it, why do you need to? Do you need to feel loved by choosing the OS that everyone else is starting to use. You're just jumping on the Mac marketing bandwagon.

I've got to say... first computer was DOS based when I was 6 years old, second, third, fourth computers IBM compatible... fifth computer Mac OS... I'm not a dumb new convert. I'm not a new computer user. I have a ton of experience with Windows, and Mac. I am really sick of PC users ripping on Macs. I've had to listen to countless lectures on why Macs suck so much for way too many years.

And no one has ever been able to tell me why Windows based computers are better. I could give you at least a dozen reasons why I prefer Mac over Windows. I just wish someone could give me a few legitimate reasons why Windows is innately better for them... and please don't say games. I'll buy a game console for that, thank you. And just because games are created in mass numbers for an OS, doesn't make that OS better/ more stable/ less hassle/ a "better gaming OS".

Oh, and if you think I'm a fanboy, please note that I'd prefer to be called a Westwood Studios fanboy. I'd prefer to be called a Kyrandia/ Freddy Farkus Phrontier Pharmacist fanboy. I'd prefer to be called a Legend of the Red Dragon BBS fanboy, because that most accurately describes my past. Windows hasn't really thrilled me with great games all that much in the past 15 years. I can remember when the vast majority of computer users were real geeks and games were much more fun, and not geared towards losers playing in their parents' basements. I haven't played a game that really wowed me in a long time, but most people continue to shell out tons of money for windows based games and use computers with a horrible OS just to do so.

Probably at least half of the Windows populace should switch to Linux (Ubuntu, maybe) and stop trying to defend a broken OS. But that won't happen and most of the posters here will just declare me a Mac fanboy even though I started using Microsoft before some of them were born. Do any of you even know what a BBS is? I'm sure some do... but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a vast majority don't. I'm not saying you're all idiots.... just that you generalize the mac-user base too much. But then that would be a generalization of all of you. So, I'll refrain from that. :)

End rant. Seriously, though... try some good classic games like Hand of Fate: Legend of Kyrandia, and anything by Westwood Studios. Those people had a sense of humor, and it wasn't all just about how realistic the blades of grass could be... it was an art form. We could all use a lot more of that.

[RWD @ Sep 5th 2008 5:58AM]

yawn, your opinions invalid because it was longer then a paragraph, go and create a blog to rant on rather then force your opinions down other peoples necks.

[sinjinn @ Sep 5th 2008 8:00AM]

@ibmpc

for me there really is no reason to choose a mac. i dont see anything i will gain from it but only have things to lose.

i will lose money because they are more expensive to buy and to get fixed.
i will lose compatibility with a lot of hardware and software.

those are the main reasons . i dont play games on my pc either. i dont understand what these problems with xindows xp are supposed to be either , or why its broken . it does everything to a very good standard for me and i have already learned how it works. why change to a mac??

[sirwnstn @ Sep 5th 2008 12:47PM]

@ibmpc
Thanks for being a voice of some kind of logical reason against this "I-hate-macs-cuz-they-expensive-stupid-non-mainstream" reasoning. If they think you're intolerant, they need to look at themselves honestly.

@RWD
ibmpc's rant was a bit long, but it should make up for all the silence on the side of Mac users when PC users are practically screaming all the time about how stupid Macs and Mac users are. "your opinions are invalid because it was longer than a paragraph"? Come on, let's be mature here.

[Wwhat @ Sep 5th 2008 1:11PM]

I'm with RWD on this one.