DeoWolf is right. Growth for Apple doesn't mean much and has to be expected, they have a brand new product. They started just over a year ago at ZERO. Of course their growth is a higher percent.
In other words, Microsoft had more year over year same quarter sales than the "comptetition."
But if you want to compare numbers in the way you did, you could say that Apple's growth dropped by an infinite %, being that in 2Q6 Apple sold 0 iPhones. So 270,000 div 0 = infinite per centage growth from 06 to 07. Infinity - 270% = Infinity negative growth from 07 to 08. See, you can make the numbers look as good or bad as you want if you want to play with them in certian ways.
Your argument is like saying that a company had 2 billion in profits for one year, and 3 billion for the next year. That is a 50% increase in profits. Another company had 1 million in profits in one year, and 2 million the next year. That is a 100% increase in profits. Would you rather have the 1 billion increase, or the 2 million increase?
I said it below and I'll say it again. What you easily forget is that 2Q'07 only accounted for 3 days of iPhone sales and they started to sell out of stores BEFORE 2Q'08 and were COMPLETELY sold out within a month and a half. See below
If you look at the chart the real story is RIM (BlackBerry) eating share away from Symbian. Symbian sales were flat and market share dropped almost 10%!
Most likely defectors of Symbian went to RIM since WiMo is outdated and Apple isn't up to speed in all international markets yet.
Microsoft is stagnant in market share largely due to their stagnant OS, same reason you see Palm drop share (how old is their OS??)
CB17 is mostly right. However, those 270,000 iphones were sold in less than 3 days it was in fact only 30 hours! However, I'd be more interest in total sales for the last year: Q207-Q208.
2Q2007 to 2Q2008? After the end of the first period, apple had a smartphone out for what, a week? I don't particluarly see a growth of that much since then to be particularly impressive.
Clamor all you want about RIM doing "the real growth" and Apple's growth only being so much bigger because they started out from almost-nothing, but this is Q2 of 2008, the quarter in which the iPhone was no longer available halfway through, and in the first half that it _was_ available, it was only sold in 6 countries.
Q3 of 2008 is when the iPhone 3G went on sale in 21 countries around the world (and more added along the way), and wherein that same iPhone 3G sold a full million units _in two days_.
Say what you want about RIM doing great, but Apple's growth is actually going to be a whole lot more than that 230% once the Q3'08 and — especially — the Q4'08 figures eventually come in.
I have to agree with farukate. In Q2 iPhone sales were nonexistent for most of the quarter, yet they still managed 2.8%.
With the economic slowdown seemingly afecting everyone but Apple and the sale of the iPhone in nearly 50 countries with quarter, a reported 1M units sold in 2 says and a reported 4M units sold in the first 60 days Apple will certainly take the #3 position and quite possibly the #2 position behind Symbian.
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The growth says it all.
And if Apple had the Market Share percentage, then the Market Share percentage would say it all. Or if it had the Sales, the Sales would say it all.
Really, all this is saying to me is that you really like Apple.
The chart doesn't lie. Take from it what you will.
DeoWolf is right. Growth for Apple doesn't mean much and has to be expected, they have a brand new product. They started just over a year ago at ZERO. Of course their growth is a higher percent.
No, the chart does not lie:
Microsoft 2Q8 sales - 2Q7 sales
3873622 - 3212222 = 661400
Apple 2Q8 sales - 2Q7 sales
892503 - 270000 = 622503
In other words, Microsoft had more year over year same quarter sales than the "comptetition."
But if you want to compare numbers in the way you did, you could say that Apple's growth dropped by an infinite %, being that in 2Q6 Apple sold 0 iPhones. So 270,000 div 0 = infinite per centage growth from 06 to 07. Infinity - 270% = Infinity negative growth from 07 to 08. See, you can make the numbers look as good or bad as you want if you want to play with them in certian ways.
Your argument is like saying that a company had 2 billion in profits for one year, and 3 billion for the next year. That is a 50% increase in profits. Another company had 1 million in profits in one year, and 2 million the next year. That is a 100% increase in profits. Would you rather have the 1 billion increase, or the 2 million increase?
I said it below and I'll say it again. What you easily forget is that 2Q'07 only accounted for 3 days of iPhone sales and they started to sell out of stores BEFORE 2Q'08 and were COMPLETELY sold out within a month and a half. See below
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/03/iphone-sold-out.html
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ByteOfTheApple/blog/archives/2008/04/gene_munster_so.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/05/12/iphone.sold.out.ap/
If you look at the chart the real story is RIM (BlackBerry) eating share away from Symbian. Symbian sales were flat and market share dropped almost 10%!
Most likely defectors of Symbian went to RIM since WiMo is outdated and Apple isn't up to speed in all international markets yet.
Microsoft is stagnant in market share largely due to their stagnant OS, same reason you see Palm drop share (how old is their OS??)
Yeah Apple is growing but not a real threat yet.
CB17 is mostly right. However, those 270,000 iphones were sold in less than 3 days it was in fact only 30 hours!
However, I'd be more interest in total sales for the last year: Q207-Q208.
2Q2007 to 2Q2008? After the end of the first period, apple had a smartphone out for what, a week? I don't particluarly see a growth of that much since then to be particularly impressive.
Clamor all you want about RIM doing "the real growth" and Apple's growth only being so much bigger because they started out from almost-nothing, but this is Q2 of 2008, the quarter in which the iPhone was no longer available halfway through, and in the first half that it _was_ available, it was only sold in 6 countries.
Q3 of 2008 is when the iPhone 3G went on sale in 21 countries around the world (and more added along the way), and wherein that same iPhone 3G sold a full million units _in two days_.
Say what you want about RIM doing great, but Apple's growth is actually going to be a whole lot more than that 230% once the Q3'08 and — especially — the Q4'08 figures eventually come in.
come on guys..today's numerator is tomorrows denominator ..Apple had a low base
come on guys..today's numerator is tomorrows denominator! ..Apple had a low base and see coming Qs for a trend
I have to agree with farukate. In Q2 iPhone sales were nonexistent for most of the quarter, yet they still managed 2.8%.
With the economic slowdown seemingly afecting everyone but Apple and the sale of the iPhone in nearly 50 countries with quarter, a reported 1M units sold in 2 says and a reported 4M units sold in the first 60 days Apple will certainly take the #3 position and quite possibly the #2 position behind Symbian.