Vista is good on decent modern hardware. With 2 GB of RAM and a decent graphics card, you won't have any probs.
Microsoft made the mistake of initially selling it with low system requirements ..it didn't run properly on there so that really screwed the Windows brand.
The only shortcoming in Vista is they don't have a proper answer to Mac OS X Expose feature .. Flip3D sucks.
Replace it? That would take another seven years! Just release it under another name- it worked before, remember Bill? At least Apple doesn't have to lie to it's customers to get them to use their OS like Microsoft.
What does the Mojave experiment say about their opinion of the consumer's intelligence? Now before you counter my argument, could you Windows users say 'moo'? It would make my day. ;-)
I can't imagine what 'lie' you could be referring to. The skits are obviously bias, but not false advertising. Commercials are supposed to be bias for your side, that's why companies bother to air them! Duh!
If only you had added "and Apple sucks!" when you said "I like Vista," you would have scored an Epic Highest Rank here on the Engadget Comments Section: Redmond Division.
johan, I disagree. I've had Vista problems on 3 separate brand new high end boxes, problems that I never had with XP. But we've been down this road before, and there is no point listing all the issues.
Suffice it to say that many people have had, and continue to have issues with Vista that they didn't have with XP. This isn't just unfounded negative backlash, there are real issues, and I for one would prefer to see Microsoft spend that $300M in engineering, not marketing.
If Microsoft succeeds in getting Vista into more hands with this campaign, but doesn't address the issues with the application, this will ultimately be a win for Apple and Linux...
i dont know though, it seems like most of the problems that vista users see are because of the influence of the negative image. if you didn't have a negative view of it, those problems probably wouldn't really be problems at all. its probably because you're practically searching them out.
I don't think so, at least not in the majority of cases. Personally I have a number of issues that are not due to negative group think, but rather 18 months of trying to get stuff working as quickly and as easily as it did in XP. The fact that they moved and renamed a bunch of stuff isn't a problem for me, but it is for folks like my father who couldn't find add and remove programs, for example.
My primary issues are speed and resources. I have a 2.6 GHz dual core system, 4 GB RAM, dual 7200 RPM SATA 3.0 drives for my Vista 64 system and my 2.1 GHz dual core with 1 GB of RAM and 5400 RPM SATA Drive running XP is faster for most tasks, especially moving large files. And yes, I've tuned the Vista box, turned off all the security crap, turned off indexing ,etc. Vista really is slower.
XP, for all its faults is very stable with SP2. no BSOD on this system, ever (over a year), and it is very fast. OSX has it's issues as well, nothing is perfect, regardless of the marketing message.
I'll be more than happy to try Windows 7 when it ships.
@Johan, That's the problem. Other operating systems can run on much lower specifications. I only have 1GB RAM and I can run OS X with few problems.
Running Linux generally has significantly lower requirements. I know someone who has a very old Linux box and someone with a new Vista notebook. The difference in speed was incredible. A python program run on Vista was sped up to make it useable. It was the far too fast to be used on the Linux machine.
The Vista notebook could run Photoshop, though, even if it was slow. It just crashed when you opened Paint.
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Now if they could just replace Vista.
I like vista.
Vista is good on decent modern hardware. With 2 GB of RAM and a decent graphics card, you won't have any probs.
Microsoft made the mistake of initially selling it with low system requirements ..it didn't run properly on there so that really screwed the Windows brand.
The only shortcoming in Vista is they don't have a proper answer to Mac OS X Expose feature .. Flip3D sucks.
Replace it? That would take another seven years! Just release it under another name- it worked before, remember Bill? At least Apple doesn't have to lie to it's customers to get them to use their OS like Microsoft.
What does the Mojave experiment say about their opinion of the consumer's intelligence? Now before you counter my argument, could you Windows users say 'moo'? It would make my day. ;-)
Actually they do like "who?"
Just take a look at any apple commercial ever aired
lie*
You mean those iPods aren't really out?
Or maybe MacBooks don't exist?
Was iLife a fake?
I can't imagine what 'lie' you could be referring to. The skits are obviously bias, but not false advertising. Commercials are supposed to be bias for your side, that's why companies bother to air them! Duh!
First ad I found on Google- no lies:
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple_getamac_offtheair_20080818_480x272.mov
@ patriotsn1:
If only you had added "and Apple sucks!" when you said "I like Vista," you would have scored an Epic Highest Rank here on the Engadget Comments Section: Redmond Division.
Better luck next time, tenderfoot.
johan, I disagree. I've had Vista problems on 3 separate brand new high end boxes, problems that I never had with XP. But we've been down this road before, and there is no point listing all the issues.
Suffice it to say that many people have had, and continue to have issues with Vista that they didn't have with XP. This isn't just unfounded negative backlash, there are real issues, and I for one would prefer to see Microsoft spend that $300M in engineering, not marketing.
If Microsoft succeeds in getting Vista into more hands with this campaign, but doesn't address the issues with the application, this will ultimately be a win for Apple and Linux...
@CraigJ
i dont know though, it seems like most of the problems that vista users see are because of the influence of the negative image. if you didn't have a negative view of it, those problems probably wouldn't really be problems at all. its probably because you're practically searching them out.
I don't think so, at least not in the majority of cases. Personally I have a number of issues that are not due to negative group think, but rather 18 months of trying to get stuff working as quickly and as easily as it did in XP. The fact that they moved and renamed a bunch of stuff isn't a problem for me, but it is for folks like my father who couldn't find add and remove programs, for example.
My primary issues are speed and resources. I have a 2.6 GHz dual core system, 4 GB RAM, dual 7200 RPM SATA 3.0 drives for my Vista 64 system and my 2.1 GHz dual core with 1 GB of RAM and 5400 RPM SATA Drive running XP is faster for most tasks, especially moving large files. And yes, I've tuned the Vista box, turned off all the security crap, turned off indexing ,etc. Vista really is slower.
XP, for all its faults is very stable with SP2. no BSOD on this system, ever (over a year), and it is very fast. OSX has it's issues as well, nothing is perfect, regardless of the marketing message.
I'll be more than happy to try Windows 7 when it ships.
@Johan Look up Switcher...
better yet... http://insentient.net/
"At least Apple doesn't have to lie to it's customers to get them to use their OS like Microsoft."
wait, which apple are we talking about here, because last time i checked, they do
@Johan,
That's the problem. Other operating systems can run on much lower specifications. I only have 1GB RAM and I can run OS X with few problems.
Running Linux generally has significantly lower requirements. I know someone who has a very old Linux box and someone with a new Vista notebook. The difference in speed was incredible. A python program run on Vista was sped up to make it useable. It was the far too fast to be used on the Linux machine.
The Vista notebook could run Photoshop, though, even if it was slow. It just crashed when you opened Paint.