Intel patent attorneys kick some dirt at AMD

AMD's breakup into two separate companies is certain to have wide-ranging impact in the industry, and unsurprisingly, Intel's among the first to react -- it's warning that it has "serious questions about this transaction" as it relates to its patent cross-licensing agreement with AMD and that it'll "vigorously protect" its intellectual property rights. That's about as aggro a patent attorney can get without coming to your house and peeing on the lawn (or, uh, filing a lawsuit), so we'll see how this shakes out -- for its part, AMD says that it's taken the deal into account, and that it'll "continue respecting Intel's intellectual property rights, just as we expect them to respect ours." That's a respect throwdown, right there -- you gonna take that, Intel?

[allislost @ Oct 9th 2008 6:13AM]

AWW SNAP! Yo intel! WTF dude! Don't let the bitch talk shit!

Grag ur homies, get some chrome, and we'll drive by AMD's pad and drop some real respect!

[zen @ Oct 9th 2008 6:41AM]

What you have to worry about here is how intel is now a monopoly and is only getting to a high spot in the market by pushing down AMD who have had the better processors for the longest time now? well almost the longest time for sometimes intel has a better chip or two like not the pentium D or itanium or current zeons or some of the others maybe there mobile ones are better at the moment but you have to be careful comparing like for like AMD? have done dual and quad core and more cores properly but intel just throw lots of cores in the same basket with dual cores only like their quad core is only two dual cores NOT A PROPER QUAD CORE so its slower its like its only 3 cores which is probaly why they say it's only a six core in someof there marketing material ever wonder about that? amazing the FBI or some group havent legislated against intel for all there monopoly yet

[Zorque @ Oct 9th 2008 6:46AM]

AMD was only really in the lead because Pentium 4 was a bad technology. The reason Intel's in the lead is that clock-for-clock their current line of processors outperform anything AMD has on the market. It also helps that Intel processors are far easier to overclock and achieve far higher overclocking returns than AMD processors.

[FyreFlareon @ Oct 9th 2008 7:24AM]

"Zeon" - nice.

If AMD truly made the better processor, and don't get me wrong, I'm typing this on an AMD Athlon 3200+ which was THE processor to have in its time, then the market would agree with them. Unfortunately, too many benchmarks and comparisons put Intel on top, and AMD's marketshare proves this. I'm not saying AMD processors are horrendous. They have their place in the world, else AMD would also be out of business. But you cannot say AMD is truly better than Intel if so many people who have the ability to make a choice, and actually know the choice they're making, choose Intel because of some monopolistic actions by Intel. There's always an option.

[masadav @ Oct 9th 2008 8:30AM]

Zen, mate, try using some hard enters/returns every now and then, reading that sh!t hurts my eyes, and my mouse wanders to that red negative sign of its own accord!

[loosely_coupled @ Oct 9th 2008 4:49PM]

1) Learn to write properly, including the proper use of punctuation.

2) Unfortunately for AMD, Intel's Core2 and Xeon line of processors outperform their AMD equivalents in servers, desktops, and especially laptop applications. AMD has one last enclave of superority in high-end HPC systems, but that is going to vaporize with the release of 4+ socket Nehalem processors in the second half of next year. (1 and 2-socket Nehalem will be out in 6-8 weeks)

3) Intel's current Core2 quad and quad-core Xeon chips are indeed made of two separate dual-core processor dies whereas AMD's Barcelona/Phenom are "true" quad-cores (monolithic), but unfortunately the Intel chips are still (much) faster.

4) No, Intel's 'Dunnington' is a monolithic, "true" 6-core processor (one cpu die).

5) The FBI doesn't write legislation. They are a part of the Department of Justice, aka the executive branch. Legislation is written by congress.

6) Anti-trust law doesn't inherently ban market monopoly, what it does do is prevent corporations who are in a market-dominant position from using that position to engage in anti-competive practices...

[Jonathan-DBOSS @ Oct 9th 2008 6:55AM]

Did Intel just got "out-respected"?

[Kris @ Oct 9th 2008 7:07AM]

"it'll will"

Seriously? You have one tiny paragraph to write...

[snapa @ Oct 9th 2008 12:31PM]

Let's go to your job and scrutinize everything you do wrong! I bet it will be fun!

Moral of the story is everyone makes mistakes. Feel free to point it out but don't be a jackass while doing it.

[gahahha @ Oct 9th 2008 7:27AM]

lol pwned

[Ian @ Oct 9th 2008 8:06AM]

With Intel's research budget, massive manufacturing (and upgrade) budget, and everything else, I'm surprised AMD was comparable to Intel at all, even if for a short time.

Now they're behind, but not extremely far behind. I don't think they're such a poor company that they can't come up with new creative ways to gain performance.

[nmesisca @ Oct 9th 2008 5:31PM]

+1

finally someone with a bit of practical sense..

[Laughing Man @ Oct 9th 2008 6:56PM]

I honestly don't get the complaint. I have used both Intel and equivalent AMD processors of the current and last 2 generations (luxury of helping friends fix problems), and the performance difference in very, very minor. You would only see a big difference with the Higher end chips during very processor intense situations. The lower to mid-range CPU's all come in with AMD about 7% to 15% behind (according to testing done by respectable companies), but that is ok because they average around 30% cheaper in cost. In the end, they still provide more than enough power to do anything that you would every want to do with a PC and they make up for not have the most powerful chip with low cost.

So lets all just stop the AMD bashing. It is not like they are VIA or something.

[Unknown @ Oct 9th 2008 8:17AM]

"That's about as aggro a patent attorney can get without coming to your house and peeing on the lawn..."
Should definitely be "peeing on your rug" :-)

[Magurk @ Oct 9th 2008 8:53AM]

Declaratory Judgments at 15 paces!!

[StalematE @ Oct 9th 2008 12:57PM]

"intel says 'you bess respeck!', AMD responds 'your mom!'"

[mabru2004 @ Oct 9th 2008 1:55PM]

How can they come into the house and pee on the lawn?

[Laughing Man @ Oct 9th 2008 3:24PM]

Most likely that AMD is just outsourcing the fab work on the chips and will still program the logic in house. That would protect everybody's interest.

P.S. That was a reall bitch move Intel. You could have handled that in private.