it's $111 more than the comparable Dell monitor, the DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP $101 more than the Samsung SyncMaster 245T 24" Widescreen Black LCD Display and $29 less that the NEC MultiSync LCD2470WNX-BK 24" Widescreen Black LCD Monitor
Personally I don't think $100 is too much to pay for good industrial design, but if it was $300 more, than no.
BTW, neither the Dell nor the Samsung is LED backlit...
You're quoting MSRPs, CraigJ. The nice thing about all of the other monitors you mentioned is that they usually go for lot less than MSRP, especially through resellers.
It's also $900, not $800, so add an extra 100 to all of those prices.
I see that CraigJ is at it again, it seems, propagating erroneous information in order to either pimp his own or company's stocks, or more likely, to worship his choice of religion.
I do sort of agree with his point about the price though– it's not that bad as long as it's S-IPS.
But glossy display is sub-optimal for most people who would be in the market for a serious display like this one and the lack of compatibility is disappointing.
Why have PVA monitors gotten more expensive? Before the market got flooded with crappy 24" TN monitors, some 24" PVA monitors fell to a $599 MSRP. But those models have been replaced by far inferior TN models, leaving no inexpensive PVA monitors.
Apple's 24" monitor is the ONLY PVA monitor the FutureShop and BestBuy sells anymore. Everything else has switched to TN now. It's really unfortunate. Technology is supposed to improve, but instead 24" monitors have gotten crappier!
1. Those numbers came from Dell's website. 2. AFAIK none of the monitors is LED back-lit 3. AFAIK none of those has a built in web cam
My bad, I thought the monitor was $800, not $899. Regardless, $899 for a 24" LED back-lit monitor with 178° horizontal; 178° vertical angle and 1000:1 ratio, and 16.7 million colors (not crappy 6-bit TN) doesn't really seem that expensive to me, regardless of the manufacturer. This monitor does seem a bit slow at 14ms, but I'm more interested in proper color rendering than speed.
rod, just because you hate Apple doesn't mean you have to be such a raging douchebag, but I'm sure you just can't help yourself.
this Apple display is no comparison to any of the others.
None of the others have limited inputs or lack of versatility. Apple is still limiting the user while other monitors offer HMDI, DVI, component, composite, USB, PiP, adjustable base heights, rotation ...
It still amazes me that people buy the limited offerings from Apple when there are multitudes of better (and cheaper) options for consumer use. I haven't used an Apple monitor since the Applevision 1710 and haven't regretted it once.
Of course, with those product comparisons you're omitting the way this new monitor has the webcam built-in, likely the newer higher-res version of the iSight, and the way that there's a magsafe power connector built in for charging or powering your MacBook or MacBook Pro, as well as being a 3-USB hub, and LED backlighting. Some of these unique features to the field of monitors mentioned only benefit Apple/MacBook/Pro owners, but they're still what you get for that price - so you may not consider those adding value at all, and I can accept that, as long as someone can understand I don't consider a 9-in-1 media card reader on a Dell a feature I need. But I suspect many of the people that turn away when they see that price aren't Apple users anyway. In which case, I just see a lot of people taking shots at a product that never would have appealed to them, nor were they the target.
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$800 = fail
it's $111 more than the comparable Dell monitor, the DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP
$101 more than the Samsung SyncMaster 245T 24" Widescreen Black LCD Display
and $29 less that the NEC MultiSync LCD2470WNX-BK 24" Widescreen Black LCD Monitor
Personally I don't think $100 is too much to pay for good industrial design, but if it was $300 more, than no.
BTW, neither the Dell nor the Samsung is LED backlit...
You're quoting MSRPs, CraigJ. The nice thing about all of the other monitors you mentioned is that they usually go for lot less than MSRP, especially through resellers.
It's also $900, not $800, so add an extra 100 to all of those prices.
I see that CraigJ is at it again, it seems, propagating erroneous information in order to either pimp his own or company's stocks, or more likely, to worship his choice of religion.
I do sort of agree with his point about the price though– it's not that bad as long as it's S-IPS.
But glossy display is sub-optimal for most people who would be in the market for a serious display like this one and the lack of compatibility is disappointing.
Here, I did the work for you.
Dell 2408WFP: $619 ($280 less)
Samsung 2408WFP: $659.99 ($239 less)
NEC LCD2470WNX: $809.99 ($90 less)
Screaming deal if that is IPS.
None of the screens mentioned so far is LED backlit. None of them are IPS
My NEC 2490 IPS screen was over $1000 and it isn't LED backlit.
I recently bought a Dell 2408WFP for $552 including tax (free shipping).
Why have PVA monitors gotten more expensive? Before the market got flooded with crappy 24" TN monitors, some 24" PVA monitors fell to a $599 MSRP. But those models have been replaced by far inferior TN models, leaving no inexpensive PVA monitors.
Apple's 24" monitor is the ONLY PVA monitor the FutureShop and BestBuy sells anymore. Everything else has switched to TN now. It's really unfortunate. Technology is supposed to improve, but instead 24" monitors have gotten crappier!
1. Those numbers came from Dell's website.
2. AFAIK none of the monitors is LED back-lit
3. AFAIK none of those has a built in web cam
My bad, I thought the monitor was $800, not $899. Regardless, $899 for a 24" LED back-lit monitor with 178° horizontal; 178° vertical angle and 1000:1 ratio, and 16.7 million colors (not crappy 6-bit TN) doesn't really seem that expensive to me, regardless of the manufacturer. This monitor does seem a bit slow at 14ms, but I'm more interested in proper color rendering than speed.
rod, just because you hate Apple doesn't mean you have to be such a raging douchebag, but I'm sure you just can't help yourself.
this Apple display is no comparison to any of the others.
None of the others have limited inputs or lack of versatility. Apple is still limiting the user while other monitors offer HMDI, DVI, component, composite, USB, PiP, adjustable base heights, rotation ...
It still amazes me that people buy the limited offerings from Apple when there are multitudes of better (and cheaper) options for consumer use. I haven't used an Apple monitor since the Applevision 1710 and haven't regretted it once.
Of course, with those product comparisons you're omitting the way this new monitor has the webcam built-in, likely the newer higher-res version of the iSight, and the way that there's a magsafe power connector built in for charging or powering your MacBook or MacBook Pro, as well as being a 3-USB hub, and LED backlighting. Some of these unique features to the field of monitors mentioned only benefit Apple/MacBook/Pro owners, but they're still what you get for that price - so you may not consider those adding value at all, and I can accept that, as long as someone can understand I don't consider a 9-in-1 media card reader on a Dell a feature I need. But I suspect many of the people that turn away when they see that price aren't Apple users anyway. In which case, I just see a lot of people taking shots at a product that never would have appealed to them, nor were they the target.
Commenting on Apple products is engadet's version of fantasy leagues...