Funny story -- just under three years ago, we all thought six 24-inchers latched together in a swanky multi-monitor setup was the real heat. Nowadays, it takes a real beast to even catch the ever-wandering eye of we geeks, and while the CineMassive OmegaPlex isn't a HIPerSpace, you won't need a government loan and a damn good research proposal to claim one as your own. Boasting 27.6 million pixels and a total screen resolution of 7,860 x 3,600, this ridiculous rig also comes with a 3-year warranty and a practically unheard of "zero dead pixel" policy. Feel free to infinitely boost your 1337-ness by handing over $12,995 and patiently awaiting delivery via the largest ground vehicle UPS owns. Check the vid after the break for a little more encouragement. [Warning: PDF read link]
For a $13,000 price tag before taxes, this doesn't make sense unless you put it in a store to show previews of new DVD's and games. I don't want any display that is seperated by border lines.
everyone seems to love these, while they may be capable of insane resolution, not that theres any commercially available stuff to take advantage of the resolution, but i could never get used to these type of displays the bezels just ruin it for me
@blizz419: I agree - an expensive, high-res projector on a good screen would make more sense (no bezels, much better viewing angel). Plus no videos would have been recorded at 7,860 x 3,600 just yet, as far as I know.
@FromMyCube: Behind those bezels are all the connections that drive the pixels - one wire for each row or column.
So, each 1920x1200 panel has 1920+1200 wires driving 1920x1200 pixels = 3120 wires driving 2,304,000 pixels, or 738 pixels per wire, on average
To make this one big display, you'd have 7680+3600 wires driving 7680x3600 pixels = 11,280 wires driving 27,648,000 pixels, or 2451 pixels per wire.
Why does this matter? There are a lot of things linked to the number of pixels per wire... like switching speed and refresh rate. So, to pull off the larger display, you'd need to increase the switching speed of LCDs by a factor of 3 to get equivalent performance - that's a big problem.
There's also the scaling up defect problem that also affects semiconductor memory... Assume 1 fatal defect per 400 square inches... if you build 4 100-inch monitors, you'll get one defective monitor and 3 you can sell. If you make a single huge 400 inch monitor, chances are that it'll have a defect and you won't be able to sell any... that makes the price rise out of proportion to area.
I agree completely. I do like using multiple monitors, but I keep each one as an separate work space and never span anything across multiple monitors. Seeing the bezels in the middle of single image/window drives me crazy.
How exactly are these set up, is it just with multiple graphics cards or is there something fancy required? I have 4 monitors available to me and wondering how easy this type of thing could be set up without having to shell out loads
Your math is wrong but then again, their pixel math (on the CineMassive site) is wrong and has trickled down through all the other sites with out being corrected.
They got the total number of pixels right at 27,648,000, but the total resolution is not 7860x3600. It is actually 7680x3600. Ahh dyslexia skrites again!
1920x1200 per panel, and at 4 wide and 3 high that makes the math: 1920x4 (7680) and 1200x3 (3600)
!!! Quote: "System Requirements: 12 DVI video outputs " !!!
so what is there offering additional to the 12 monitors? QuadSLI alone is not gonna work on that, so if NOT bundled with the neccessary hardware, 8.795 for just the mount is pretty expensive (350 per 24" display = 4.200) .. i guess i already have an idea of the additonal xxxxxx hardware required..
Yep, Your going to need a couple of these to do it with only one PC. http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadroplex_2100_d4_us.html Using two SLI video cards and two of these Quadro Plex 2100's you could do up to 16 monitors as eachone has 4 dual link DVI out with 4GB total. Sweet. Couldn't find a price so... if there including something like this with the monitors that's probably where the extra cost comes in. Or alternatly you have to get something like this in addition on your own. I didn't bother to look to see if Matrrox is still in business but they used to make high end video cards that had 4 video connectors, so it's concevable that they make SLI cards with 4 DVI. 3 of those would in an SLI rig would give you 12 connectors.
[[[General specifications]]] Total Active Pixels: 27,648,000 Total screen resolution: 7860 x 3600 pixels Overall dimensions: 79.4" (W) x 23.5" (D) Total diagonal size: 77.8" (active pixel area, excluding bezels) Height eight: 44" Warranty: 3-year System Requirements: 12 DVI video outputs Power Supply: Internationally compliant (110V - 240V) P/N: CMO
[[[LCD specifications (per panel)]]] Viewable image: 24" diagonal per panel Screen resolution: 1920 x 1200 pixels per panel LCD technology: TN Viewing angle: 178º horizontal / 178º vertical Static contrast ratio: 1500:1 Brightness: 300 cd/m² Response: 6ms Maximum colors: 16.7 million Pixel pitch: 0.264 Aspect ratio: 16:10 Bezel: Ultra-thin 0.47" Dimensions: 27.2" (W) x 17.7" (H) x 3.3" (D) Weight: 30 lbs (shipped) HDMI: 1 Digital DVI-D: 1 Analog VGA: 1 Component: 1 S-Video: 1 USB: 4
Come to think of it, why haven't I seen this type of setup done using projectors? No bezels. It would seem ONE image ;P The noise from 12 projectors might be a bit much though ;P Plus, you'd need a LOT of space ;P
I was thinking the same thing. Do rear projection with 4 HD projectors. The rear projection would allow less distance and more ambient light. Your TV would still be 5' thick. You could built the projectors in a small closet with cooling and insulation so you don't hear them and then have the screen flush with the wall. Even with the construction, that would cost less than $12,000. Of course the video processor needed for that would be $20,000. Oh well.
Hey, I think AIG bought 45 of them for each of their top executives!
It's almost affordable for a tech geek who probably has a decent salary anyways and likes to pump a lot of money into his home theatre. Although who knows with this economy.
You people are all looking at it wrong, this is clearly targeted to everyone who bought a netbook and has to make up for that 7inch screen they bought, I'm sure the integrated graphics would have no problem handling this display
For $13K I'll take one large screen, not 12 screens with annoying black borders. And why is it 13k? 13k/12 screens comes out to just over $1,000 per 24" screen. Get em here for $278. http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=958565
I think the "zero dead pixel" policy is the most newsworthy part of this story as these sorts of rigs are nothing new. Frankly, the monitor stand looks inadequate for a rig that must weigh about 175 pounds.
Nah - the way to go is to take multiple projectors and align them so that the edges of their pictures are touching each other - that's the only way to truly have a multi-source image and not have any borders or bezels. Then simply add more projectors (at short range, natch, so you can actually add more) until you reach your desired resolution - rear projection works well here.
I know planetariums use multiple projectors in this fashion. I would think that having 12x $1500 1080p projectors with a 360" diagonal screen (30') would be great. I'm not sure how wide movie theater screens are, but it might be a good place to test it out at.
I'll buy one just to see the priceless look on the delivery guy's face when he walks into my run down apartment with a dilapidated couch and torn up rug. I anticipate his face saying "Really? Really?"
HA!!! Yeah let me give $13,000,000 to a company that cant even multiply. Wow, seriously? Did anyone else watch the youtube video. The display is completely crooked and the video lags horribly. Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
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I'll take two, one for the living room, one for the bathroom.
I just want the F-22 Raptor...
For a $13,000 price tag before taxes, this doesn't make sense unless you put it in a store to show previews of new DVD's and games. I don't want any display that is seperated by border lines.
Psh, like anyone would want to buy this. It uses TN monitors, so the viewing angles aren't very good. And this thing is huge.
Instead of going to the sun tanning salon you can sit next to your screens and enjoy the view while you get skin cancer!
everyone seems to love these, while they may be capable of insane resolution, not that theres any commercially available stuff to take advantage of the resolution, but i could never get used to these type of displays the bezels just ruin it for me
Over time, you would not see the bezels. Your eyes would "merge" the image.
i was thinking the same thing....can they really not find a slimmer bezel or do we not have the technology to make a no bezel lcd monitor?
@blizz419: I agree - an expensive, high-res projector on a good screen would make more sense (no bezels, much better viewing angel). Plus no videos would have been recorded at 7,860 x 3,600 just yet, as far as I know.
I thought the same thing, exact wording even, while I was watching the video. "The bezels just ruin it for me."
I know there has to be some bezel in a setup like this, but I know they could make them smaller than that.
Pah. It's not SHV resolution, so I don't want to hear about it.
@FromMyCube: Behind those bezels are all the connections that drive the pixels - one wire for each row or column.
So, each 1920x1200 panel has 1920+1200 wires driving 1920x1200 pixels = 3120 wires driving 2,304,000 pixels, or 738 pixels per wire, on average
To make this one big display, you'd have 7680+3600 wires driving 7680x3600 pixels = 11,280 wires driving 27,648,000 pixels, or 2451 pixels per wire.
Why does this matter? There are a lot of things linked to the number of pixels per wire... like switching speed and refresh rate. So, to pull off the larger display, you'd need to increase the switching speed of LCDs by a factor of 3 to get equivalent performance - that's a big problem.
There's also the scaling up defect problem that also affects semiconductor memory... Assume 1 fatal defect per 400 square inches... if you build 4 100-inch monitors, you'll get one defective monitor and 3 you can sell. If you make a single huge 400 inch monitor, chances are that it'll have a defect and you won't be able to sell any... that makes the price rise out of proportion to area.
I agree completely. I do like using multiple monitors, but I keep each one as an separate work space and never span anything across multiple monitors. Seeing the bezels in the middle of single image/window drives me crazy.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/13/wall-o-30-inchers/
How exactly are these set up, is it just with multiple graphics cards or is there something fancy required? I have 4 monitors available to me and wondering how easy this type of thing could be set up without having to shell out loads
Fabbing a bracket would be the hard part, you could attach them by their VESA mount on the back.
Pair of dual-head video cards and you're on your way, no problem.
Imagine playing Starwing or Starfox from the SNES on this!
....all ships check in......no sweat Fox!
Gabba Gabba
>>> Quote: "System Requirements: 12 DVI video outputs "
Holy pixeled fighter batman!!
"Star fox, you are a box and so is your fighter"
1965x900 resolution per 24" monitor? never heard of that one....
woops 3 vertical..
2620x900 per display.. still makes no sense..
why bother... it can only properly display one 4K HD video at a time, you'll lose 720 lines off of one of em! :P
vertical would be 3600/3=1200
horizontal 7860/4=1965
so 1965x1200 no?
Your math is wrong but then again, their pixel math (on the CineMassive site) is wrong and has trickled down through all the other sites with out being corrected.
They got the total number of pixels right at 27,648,000, but the total resolution is not 7860x3600. It is actually 7680x3600. Ahh dyslexia skrites again!
1920x1200 per panel, and at 4 wide and 3 high that makes the math: 1920x4 (7680) and 1200x3 (3600)
Hope that clears all that up some for ya~
I have one of these... and they're a kick @$$ to watch PORN!
12 24" monitors for $12,995? Even a top of the line panel like the HP LP2475w is ~$700. $4,595+ for a mounting system seems a bit much.
!!! Quote: "System Requirements: 12 DVI video outputs " !!!
so what is there offering additional to the 12 monitors? QuadSLI alone is not gonna work on that, so if NOT bundled with the neccessary hardware, 8.795 for just the mount is pretty expensive (350 per 24" display = 4.200) .. i guess i already have an idea of the additonal xxxxxx hardware required..
:/
Yep, Your going to need a couple of these to do it with only one PC. http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadroplex_2100_d4_us.html
Using two SLI video cards and two of these Quadro Plex 2100's you could do up to 16 monitors as eachone has 4 dual link DVI out with 4GB total. Sweet. Couldn't find a price so... if there including something like this with the monitors that's probably where the extra cost comes in. Or alternatly you have to get something like this in addition on your own. I didn't bother to look to see if Matrrox is still in business but they used to make high end video cards that had 4 video connectors, so it's concevable that they make SLI cards with 4 DVI. 3 of those would in an SLI rig would give you 12 connectors.
[[[General specifications]]]
Total Active Pixels: 27,648,000
Total screen resolution: 7860 x 3600 pixels
Overall dimensions: 79.4" (W) x 23.5" (D)
Total diagonal size: 77.8" (active pixel area, excluding bezels)
Height eight: 44"
Warranty: 3-year
System Requirements: 12 DVI video outputs
Power Supply: Internationally compliant (110V - 240V)
P/N: CMO
[[[LCD specifications (per panel)]]]
Viewable image: 24" diagonal per panel
Screen resolution: 1920 x 1200 pixels per panel
LCD technology: TN
Viewing angle: 178º horizontal / 178º vertical
Static contrast ratio: 1500:1
Brightness: 300 cd/m²
Response: 6ms
Maximum colors: 16.7 million
Pixel pitch: 0.264
Aspect ratio: 16:10
Bezel: Ultra-thin 0.47"
Dimensions: 27.2" (W) x 17.7" (H) x 3.3" (D)
Weight: 30 lbs (shipped)
HDMI: 1
Digital DVI-D: 1
Analog VGA: 1
Component: 1
S-Video: 1
USB: 4
Instead of 12 DVI ports you can use just one DVI and daisychain the rest via Firewire. (nhee hee hee hee)
video performance by daisychaining over firewire? hmm
4 X 1920 = 7680
3 X 1200 = 3600
so it's 7680 X 3600
cant you just get 12 27" samsungs for less than 13k?
7680x3600 is almost UltraHD @ 7680x4320 ....but seriously, monitors are so cheap these days...
>>> "How to run 4x4 22-inch screens at a lower resolution? (480x300 each ?)
??
A BSOD on that would put my avatar to shame :(
blu ray porn never looked so good
If by good, you mean you can see big boxes instead of big bonkers... yeahhhhhhhh
you will see a sliced pussy
I have that setup, only with 30" screens of 2560x1600, totalling 10240x4800 or 49 Mpixel.
Hmm wait, maybe that was just a fantasy...
check your pants...cause i think you might have had an accident
cause you know i did :-D
one can buy the BEST plasma or lcd tv with that amount of money (and will presumably save on electricity bills as well)
Come to think of it, why haven't I seen this type of setup done using projectors? No bezels. It would seem ONE image ;P The noise from 12 projectors might be a bit much though ;P Plus, you'd need a LOT of space ;P
I was thinking the same thing. Do rear projection with 4 HD projectors. The rear projection would allow less distance and more ambient light. Your TV would still be 5' thick. You could built the projectors in a small closet with cooling and insulation so you don't hear them and then have the screen flush with the wall. Even with the construction, that would cost less than $12,000. Of course the video processor needed for that would be $20,000. Oh well.
Hey, I think AIG bought 45 of them for each of their top executives!
You can see in the video that the screens aren't even in sync. There's lag. ugh
The lag ruins it for me too.
I wonder if it is caused by the monitors or the computer hardware.
I don't think Windows support resolutions this high...
I'm waiting for the wallpaper. Don't like the bezels.
This isn't really advanced technology or anything, so I don't see why this is so great. This is putting 12 displays in a 3x4 grid/array. "Sweet".
Is that F-22 Lightning 4 up there? Looks so real! This game is going to kickass...
and at that price it cant even display UHDV properly...
It's almost affordable for a tech geek who probably has a decent salary anyways and likes to pump a lot of money into his home theatre. Although who knows with this economy.
You people are all looking at it wrong, this is clearly targeted to everyone who bought a netbook and has to make up for that 7inch screen they bought, I'm sure the integrated graphics would have no problem handling this display
So what kind of box would you need to play games on this beast, much less scale them across the 12 monitors?
I dont even want to think about running Crysis on this. You'd need a computer from 5 years in the future to pull that off.
For $13K I'll take one large screen, not 12 screens with annoying black borders. And why is it 13k? 13k/12 screens comes out to just over $1,000 per 24" screen. Get em here for $278. http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=958565
if you want to see a huge monitor, check this one out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2GvPMRecY
I think the "zero dead pixel" policy is the most newsworthy part of this story as these sorts of rigs are nothing new. Frankly, the monitor stand looks inadequate for a rig that must weigh about 175 pounds.
people like living in jail??
Nah - the way to go is to take multiple projectors and align them so that the edges of their pictures are touching each other - that's the only way to truly have a multi-source image and not have any borders or bezels. Then simply add more projectors (at short range, natch, so you can actually add more) until you reach your desired resolution - rear projection works well here.
I know planetariums use multiple projectors in this fashion. I would think that having 12x $1500 1080p projectors with a 360" diagonal screen (30') would be great. I'm not sure how wide movie theater screens are, but it might be a good place to test it out at.
I'll buy one just to see the priceless look on the delivery guy's face when he walks into my run down apartment with a dilapidated couch and torn up rug. I anticipate his face saying "Really? Really?"
I think projectors are the way to go.
I'm just hoping that someone can invent a LED-based projector that does not require a noisy fan and tons of heat!!!
HA!!! Yeah let me give $13,000,000 to a company that cant even multiply. Wow, seriously? Did anyone else watch the youtube video. The display is completely crooked and the video lags horribly. Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
Give me a call when the bezels are gone.
how do you find things that are high enough quality to watch on that? its like 3 or 4 times normal HD. LOL