And the Lord said unto Sony, '01101000 01100...'
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Oct 28th 2008 5:05AM
posted Oct 28th 2008 5:05AM
"The voice of the Divine Word must resonate over the radio, on Internet channels with virtual distribution (and by) CDs, DVDs and iPods, and on television and cinema screens."The implied message here is very clear: God hates the Blu-ray.
I usually just kinda laugh at some of the dumb jokes, but WOW god hates blu-ray, FANTASTIC.
I'm just glad the format wars are over. I definitely wouldn't have wanted Catholic bishops deciding the winner.
God doesnt hate Blu-ray. He accepts all formats for what they are.
He is just waiting to see if digital downloads are the better medium before deciding.
You know, as opposed to analog downloads.
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What would Jesus text?
HAHA God hates the blu-ray! That's the first engadget article which made me laugh
He also hates the Rolly.
Obviously also 5800XM
After initially disliking it, he now loves the PS3.
Come on.. we all know since weeks that the god of the Engadget editors hates blue-ray.
MP3 you are not funny and definitely not realistic. He hates the PS3 and likes the PC, 360, and Wii. Now its correct
Engadget: for all your philosophical religious discussions...
and Buddha also hates Bluray
Religion is just a bag of hurt anyway.
seriously man, do not be an asshole.
Thats offensive & racist to people of all religions.(which make up the majority if you don't like us move to another planet.)
for your information the tiny bit of information you know about christianity does not make you the intellectual of 'All Religions'
How the h*** that racist?
Thanks for proving my point asshat.
Firstly, the aforementioned comment isn't racist. It is however unfair to carpet bomb all religion. Play nice now people. :)
I find it amusing that someone who's named themselves Dave Chappelle is calling other people racist.
Not saying I don't like Dave Chappelle, but y'know... racist humour is racist humour
Why not carpet bomb all religion? What good has it _ever_ done?
Personally i would prefer not to have religious doctrine shoved down my throat by a ipod touting nerd catching their latest fix of their "hearsay" stories.
Religion is a disease that needs no help spreading.
People act like all religion does is cause hate and war. Perhaps, but it's humans who are really at fault. If it weren't for religion, there would be something else we'd all be fighting over (like, money). We're the problem, not religion. It's every extremists twisted interpretation of their religion who is at fault.
You can't deny that there are a lot of initiatives backed by religious groups that provide food, clothing and shelter for the homeless and whatnot. This could also be done without involving religion, but the people who do good are following their beliefs, and when they're helping people, I don't see what's wrong with it.
@Tristan: Despite all the problems religions have caused. You can't honestly believe they've never been a source of good either. That's just stupid. Religions have provided inspiration and the basis for humans to feed the hungry, provide education to people, give shelter to those being persecuted, provide jobs, work to help the sick, create great works of art. Even make advancements in science. It basically gives hope to people who need it. Does it really matter if it's all made up (I'm not saying it is) but it serves a purpose in people's lives. To me that far outweighs any suffering religion has caused.
@Tristan
Firstly, religion has done good in the world. What good has it done? Well, try the laws which hold society together. Early Chirstianity's opposition to Slavery. Charitable organisations which are providing aid to unfortunate souls around the world. Just to name a few things which it has done.
We may disagree with some of the things which have been done in religion's name, but you can't say that all religion is wrong as a result. Unfortunately, like many things in the world, it is the worst side of religion that makes good news. There are many good people out there doing fantastic work to make the world a better place.
Finally, I agree that noone likes being preached to. Why can't we all just co-exist and not shove Atheism/Theism down each other's throats? Its the preachy extremes that make life hard for the rest of us guys in the middle.
And basic humanists could not do all that by themselves?
People make amazing things happen, not religion.
And people are generally good until you have enough of them under your belt to start a crusade.
The pictured used is offensive. I just woke up from a great dream of the sexy kind, and logged onto my computer. What did I see but a clergyman staring at me.....eyes blazing with disappointment.... do you know what you did to my libido right then Engadget?
It's Tuesday, not Sunday, I should have some peace.
Or I should stop being a filthy perv.
There's only one banana on this boat, and it's now MUSHY!
I love the amount of QQ my post is generating.
@Daza
I see what your saying, but even when they do good it's for a TWISTED reason.
Giving food to Poor African villages = Converting them from pagans to Christians
Come to get some food... in our church... and while you eat, read this book.... Come back tomorrow for some more food.. and church... and bring that book.. See how good “our” God is.
Let them folks keep their religion…
You should read, “When things fall apart”
For the record: Religion = Stupid
Thanks Alphachapmtl
@Andy TGD
No it is not unfair to carpet bomb all religion. Anything not withstanding the scrutiny of scientific method should be carpet bombed on a regular basis.
@Andy TGD again
The laws that hold our society together does not have it origin in religion. It has it's origin in the The Age of Enlightenment and the French Revolution. Clergy and nobles where the people opposing equal rights. The lost and have adapted to our rules of society in order to survive!
Sure religion people are able to do good deeds aswell. Some religious people say they do good deeds because of their religion. I say anyone doing good deeds to avoid burning in hell isn't inherently good. I do good deeds because I enjoy helping out my fellow (wo)man. Not because some guy in the sky tells me to.
Yes please!! Be careful about throwing around the R word. It's become a serious stigma and it really doesn't need to be misused. Just because something is bigoted doesn't necessarily mean that it is racist. And, being sweepingly anti religion is bigoted.
This is at pretty much everyone, religion is good and bad. It's good when they do charitable things, its good when they help people that ask for it. It's bad when they think they are the only ones who are right and cram their beliefs down someone else's throat when they didn't want it. It's bad when they say they do things in the name of god. Why not just accept that mankind chooses what he or she wants to believe and not what is or isn't right; because that is subjective in itself. Every religion is based off of faith, so shut up and let people live their lives the way they want to and not the way some big shot, who thinks that he or she talks to god, wants us to live.
I see this article as religion is starting to get desperate and need more people in their churches/synagogue so they are going to mass advertise. This is another way of saying that they are running out of money so they are going to start advertising on a mass scale.
Let the hate replies proceed...
JakeB
I mostly agree with your first paragraph and I don't necessarily disagree with your second paragraph. Cheers! :)
@JakeB
I mostly agree with your first paragraph, and definitiely agree with your Second One!
Spirituality and the world's mystical traditions = good.
Organized religious political institutions / dogma / theocracy = incredibly bad.
howzat?
The problem is a lot of people seem to think religion INVENTED morality, this is complete BS.
Morality is basic human instinct that allows us to coexist in large groups and has nothing to do with an invisible man with a beard, who lives in the clouds.
Religion is a terrible mental illness that warps young peoples perception of reality and holds humanity back from our true potential.
4.5 billion years of evolution has developed an animal with the mental capability to actually escape the confines of its own planet, and ensure it's survival indefinitely. Unfortunately the majority of people are infected with a decease that makes them more interested in murdering people that believe in a slightly different invisible man with a beard, who wears a turban.
Unless we can find a way to stop this horrible disease, the untold trillions of variations life has gone through to create an animal that can actually comprehend its own existence, will have been a complete waste of time.
let me expand on that:
i think mysticism is great because it's a set of thousands of year old trial and error traditional practices and customs for mind and consciousness expansion and general esoterica. its entire focus is PERSONAL development
dogma and religious institutions and power structures on the other hand, compel obedience and cultural genocide (disguised as missionaryism
"It is however unfair to carpet bomb all religion"
Tell that to an atheist
I agree with phanbouy. Religion isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's the heavily structured religion that is dangerous, especially the ones that promise reward for conforming (ex. going to heaven instead of hell, being with Allah, etc). Even though many of their followers are generally good, those religions tend to breed more extremists that try to force their beliefs down other's throats in the name of "saving" people or "the will of God" by any means they see fit.
wow, I really dont know what to say, but,
1)Religion has really gotten to a bad place, the Bible is what people need to be following, not an old guy with a robe in Vatican City. And, here is something to think about, how was it that Jesus died, and rose again, and hundreds of people, if not thousands of people saw what he did, working his miracles on people. And its not just in the Bible, but it is also in Roman records, and people wrote it down in many other places. So, I bet your thinking, Jesus was a special human, with special powers that the world gave to him, or some weird crap like that. So, in that case, I want one of you who says religion is lies, crap, BS, whatever..... to come to my house, and walk on water, I want to see you die right in front of my eyes and see you rise again after a few days, I wanna see you heal my neighbor of his mental illness. You know what, I want to see you go to a blind person, and make them see again, or even feed 5,000 people with a few pieces of bread.
2) Evolution, first off, where is the missing link between man a monkey again? thought so....
Carbon Dating...... funny, i was reading an article about how carbon dating works and i was amazed at how advanced we are getting, and yet, we can be so stupid at the dame time, ive read that carbon dating is the most inaccurate way to way fossils and artifacts. There was a study in the article, and they took a bone, from an animal that had just died, and they carbon dated it, it said it was 10 million years old! They then took it to another lab, and it said it was 15 million years old! All from and animal that had died maybe a few days before. Third, Atomic Law, it states that atoms or molecules cannot, i repeat, CANNOT be created or destroyed. So using scientific law, how did atoms come from the "big band" THEORY, you mean to tell me that all matter came from a single dense piece of matter not that big.
3) I hear it being called "The Theory of Evolution", but i never hear it being called "The Theory of Creation". And i wonder why......
@Engadgetier
1)First of all: You are crazy. Secondly: I don't believe Jesus did any of those things. Thirdly: What makes you think I think I can do any of those things?
2)I suggest you read up on...
Transitional Fossils: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html#CC200
Carbon Dating: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html#CD0
Definition of "theory": http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html#CA200
Cosmology ("big band THEORY" [sic]): section CE400 (Engadget won't let me enter more than 3 urls)
3)Again, review the definition of "theory" ... Ideally, you would never hear the phrase "The Theory of Creation," however it yields some 120,000 results when typed into Google.
Lastly... you are crazy. Please cut down on the AiG.
Without getting into a deep debate about the pros and cons of organized religion, The world would be a much better place if EVERYONE realized that although they are entitled to believe in and practice whatever religion/philosophy/spiritual practice they may like, it is *NOT* their place to attempt to impose their beliefs on everyone else nor is it acceptable to attempt to hijack secular government and impose societal rules and restrictions based upon their particular religious views.
A much greater sense of *humility*, tolerance, and acceptance of the inherent limitations of knowledge and the human condition is badly needed to counteract the arrogance, divisiveness, and zealotry that comes with over-bearing religious fundamentalism. Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, mystics, shamans, atheists, agnostics, theosophists, new agers, naturalists, spiritualists, and everyone else in this shrinking world need to throw out the ridiculous antiquated notion that only their specific adopted philosophy or belief system is "correct" and all others are false and blasphemous. The truth of the matter is that no one person or philosophy has all the answers to the fundamental questions of life and existence -- and it is incredibly arrogant and short-sighted to claim otherwise. They all have different concepts of "God" or deities, souls or spirits, the afterlife, the creation of the universe, the end of the universe, etc.
People need to keep an open mind and realize that there is much to learn in this life from many different sources, that it is a good idea to reserve judgment and despite the fact that is may be difficult, you have to let go of the notion that you will ever have absolute certainty about "God" and the universe. I don't believe that we as humans can ever know all the answers, nor do I think that is the purpose of life on earth. I do think that wisdom and benefit can be gained from spiritual and/or religious practice and experiences, especially when it helps people to put their priorities in perspective, and realize the importance of community, selflessness and service to others. That, i believe, is the real message.
Without getting into a deep debate about the pros and cons of organized religion, The world would be a much better place if EVERYONE realized that although they are entitled to believe in and practice whatever religion/philosophy/spiritual practice they may like, it is *NOT* their place to attempt to impose their beliefs on everyone else nor is it acceptable to attempt to hijack secular government and impose societal rules and restrictions based upon their particular religious views.
A much greater sense of *humility*, tolerance, and acceptance of the inherent limitations of knowledge and the human condition is badly needed to counteract the arrogance, divisiveness, and zealotry that comes with over-bearing religious fundamentalism. Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, mystics, shamans, atheists, agnostics, theosophists, new agers, naturalists, spiritualists, and everyone else in this shrinking world need to throw out the ridiculous antiquated notion that only their specific adopted philosophy or belief system is "correct" and all others are false and blasphemous. The truth of the matter is that no one person or philosophy has all the answers to the fundamental questions of life and existence -- and it is incredibly arrogant and short-sighted to claim otherwise. They all have different concepts of "God" or deities, souls or spirits, the afterlife, the creation of the universe, the end of the universe, etc.
People need to keep an open mind and realize that there is much to learn in this life from many different sources, that it is a good idea to reserve judgment and despite the fact that is may be difficult, you have to let go of the notion that you will ever have absolute certainty about "God" and the universe. I don't believe that we as humans can ever know all the answers, nor do I think that is the purpose of life on earth. I do think that wisdom and benefit can be gained from spiritual and/or religious practice and experiences, especially when it helps people to put their priorities in perspective, and realize the importance of community, selflessness and service to others. We are all in this world together.
I agree with the above (if my comment shows up under Endadgetier)
Religion is just religion. It is the cause of many things, but it doesn't benefit anything. I follow a God that is great, beyond all power and loving as one could wish. That is the way to go. To understand the guilt, the sinful nature inherited and to ask God to change it. After that, to work on, persevere into knowing God and changing yourself.
Many people today have heard the wonderful news, did step one and VOILA, they are saved. It takes a lifetime to be saved. Vigilence, watchfulness.
Also in Revelation it asks the question if in the last times there will be any faithful left. I want to be one of those, and that is the real deal. It is a personal thing, not in anyway a group thing. In hell you will be alone in your suffering, and it will be awful... Believe, a neighbor of mine experienced it. I just wish you didn't, and so does God.
And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have wrought with you for my name's sake, not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your corrupt doings, O ye house of Blu-ray, saith the LORD Steve Jobs.
(sorry, I had to go there)
funny that you would pick a picture of German Cardinal Lehmann, Bishop of Mainz
I heard they already have 1080p digital downloads in heaven.
Probably at 10GB/sec as well
Bah, 10GB/s and no porn. That sucks.
No, downloaders go to hell.
Let's not forget VHS, Betamax, LaserDisc, 8-track tapes, and smoke signals.
Anyone else notice the permalink address?
"and-the-lord-said-unto-satan-01101000-01100"
And the LORD saw it, and it was lulworthy.
(Atheist here.)
Must really hate sony then eh?
Everything about this article makes me laugh, best engadget post all year :)
how come that binary string does not translate to 666??
Futurama reference?
this is not news, this has been going on for years, engadget, you are really starting to disappoint me, whats next? some gadget from 10 years ago is.... opps never mind, forgot bout the robots
Am I the only one anticipating a new influx of spam offering to enlarge my divine soul?
Awesome. Pure genius. engadget at it's best. And love the URL.
Good line; however "the other god agrees "blu-ray is a bag of hurt"" would have been better!
Religion == stupid
@alphachapmtl
And you know this enlightened fact from what? Your primary-level education? One could easily argue that living an empty soul-less life is stupid. o_O
error: invalid operands to binary ==
@Dave Chappelle
How can his comment be racist? Since when is a religion a race :D ?
I like his iPhone.
01101000 01100?? I think the Lord needs to learn binary.
yeah i thought the same thing... god said "H"? add a 1 at the end would make it "Hi"
I was hoping it wasn't just me that tried to figure out what it said and it said "h". O_O At least post some REAL Binary for the REAL nerds! :-D
@Tristan
1) Humanism: religion for atheists.
2) Sometimes people need the inspiration of God to do good deeds.
3) Crusades? Not all people who have faith are fanatical nut-cases. (Btw. the crusades were influenced by many factors. Not least financial gains. Don't over-simplify history).
I honestly do not care what belief you have - Atheism or Theism. The fact of the matter is, there is no need to be an asshat by saying things which could be construed as insultuing.
Religion is insulting; it insults my intelligence.
If God exists and is all powerful & perfect (as these fairy stories claim) he doesn't need nut-jobs to worship him therefore, assuming the existence of powerful supernatural entities, whoever you are worshiping is imperfect and vain. Isn't that Satan according to Christian 'theology'? ('ology' suggests a science which this mumbo-jumbo really isn't)
Religion is an irrelevance which does cause a lot of pain in the world; if you want to be good be good, if you want to be bad be bad (just don't feel guilty about it!)
Bob Dole thinks if god is benevolent then he would not be a selfish jack ass and punish people for not giving him enough attention (worship). Bob Dole thinks that if you are a good person then that should be all that matters, regardless of religion. Bob Dole is sick of being told he is going to hell for not having the same beliefs as someone else. Bob Dole doesn't hate religion, just everyone who thinks they are better than Bob Dole for having one, which is 90% of them. Bob Dole helps people, Bob Dole does community service, Bob Dole donates to charities, but Bob Dole is not good enough in the eyes of the religious. Bob Dole might believe in god if even half his followers weren't hypocrites. Bob Dole don't remember killing people in his name showing up anywhere in any book.
hmmm, cant wait for the new additions of the iphone...complete with the ilord.
and get some e-communion.
Well? What did the Lord say unto Sony? 01101000 is "h" but 01100 is nothing. What's the rest?
It's not possible to arrange the iPhone's icons in a cross shape. They auto-arrange themselves from the top-left, which is unfortunate because it limits the customization of the phone. And a man of the cloth would never use a jail-broken iPhone, that would be immoral.
A man of the cloth would never fondle altar boys either. Nor force confession of a heretic through ghastly torture devices. Nor appeal to the mortal sin of greed to pursuade others to invade a foriegn country. Nor have their flock partake of some rather tasty juice that happens to be laced with deadly poison. Nor arrange marriages between a prepubescent child and a 40 year old with 15 other wives. Nor use thier position of moral authority to subjugate an entire nation, or by any other means prevent people from excersizing the "free will" granted by their god.
Religion sucks.
One could argue you created a strawman and a circular argument in one sentence.
01001000 = H
011000??? = something between A and G
Did the Lord say "HA" ?
Daza,
Wait a minute, you're saying that all the bad things that religion has done are caused by humans, then in your next paragraph you credit religion for the good things that humans have done?
So bad things = humanity's fault. Good things = glory be to god!
That's total BS.
And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'Oh, Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that with it thou mayest blow thy enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.' And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large --
religion is the root of all conflict
So World War II started on Catholic grounds?
Please, religion is just the excuse. If people didn't have religion as a basis of conflict they would find any number of other reasons.
"... I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing the Lord's work." - Adolf Hitler
...this obviously has 'nothing' to do with religion. ;0)
This is news? Religions have been doing this for years. The LDS Church (Mormons) had their choir broadcast on the very first satelite link across the US. Their website is FULL of digital media in all forms, and so do other religions. Why is this news?
i've just been put off this site. why can't people RESPECT my decision to be a Christian without ranting about intelligence and what-nots?
Such crude messages filled with hate & disrespect of Christians are in no way different to those preached by other religious fanatists who kill Christians because of their beliefs, which, ironically, was prophesied in the Bible.
Had Engadget said and Mohammed said blahdy blah, you would no doubt have been aired on news channels globally after extremist supporters of him defaced your site and forced you to go underground. But because Christians believe in peace its OK to defile God?
Bill, I hear you, but it's important to remember that Muslims are usually just over-defensive, not extremist. Similarly, Christians are usually peaceful, but there are some Christian extremists.
Agreed. I also feel a bit of animosity when visiting this site now mainly because of the comments. I wonder, are there really that many people out there like that? Hopefully not.
Well, Bill, your personal choice is fine until a bunch of you organize a cult and start shoving your agenda down everyone's throat (bashing gays, denying women their right to chose, and generally brainwashing people into brain-dead puppets). I am sorry but I do have a problem with that.
@ BigEd,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype
@KA,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing
@ BigEd,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype
Which Christians believe in peace? Surely you mean Buddhists?
'Such crude messages filled with hate & disrespect of Christians are in no way different to those preached by other religious fanatists who kill Christians because of their beliefs, which, ironically, was prophesied in the Bible.'
Hmm...or indeed those preached by Christians who kill members of other religions because of their beliefs. Admittedly that sort of thing doesn't happen so much these days but only because the grip of the Christian churches has been weakened somewhat by the advance of rationalism & secularism in their traditional power centres.
Perhaps the heated discussion that is taking place here is indicative of the divisive nature of religion and further evidence that we'd be better off without it?
@KA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
I agree Bill, its staggering how intollerant some people are towards Christians. You wouldn't abuse any other group in society like this, so why is it acceptable to insult and ridicule Christians? It happens to be a personal choice to believe. So why are so many people choosing to demonise us as a group? I, personally veer towards the liberal side of Christianity. I don't preach to anyone and live peacefully. I respect other people's views and beliefs. So please stop judging us by a crude stereotype.
"I don't preach to anyone and live peacefully."
Uhm, do you say that in all your sermons?
@Andy TGD
We are intolerant towards Christians because they are spreading a mental illness.
I want my children to know they live on a planet that is 4.5 billion years old, orbiting a star in a vast universe made up of 70,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 other stars.
They will know this because it is reality, it is based on evidence that they can physically check for themselves. If it had been left to religion, they would still think we lived on a flat square of earth.
I don't want my kids to be surrounded by grown men that still believe in childlike ideas of invisible beings that live in the clouds with their dead relatives and monsters that live underground in fiery pits.
It is not really a matter of tolerance, it is a matter of sanity. Or do you think we should just let everyone in mental hospitals back out into society? This would effectively be the same situation as excepting christianity.
4.5 billions of years? you check the facts from scholarly sources (not high school textbooks) and will see that is impossible. According to the drift of the moon (some feet per year right now) only 1.4 billion years ago the sun and moon should have been in direct contact. And don't tell me that that's how it was and then the moon shot out from the earth. It's physically impossible.
about the number of stars, that number results in more than a thousand new stars appearing every second (stars/time), and since the people studying the skies have not observed one star created, it can't be!
Also, your evolution hero, Darwin, in his book said that if anyone proved that the cell was complicated and had many forms, then evolution would be voided that moment. In his time, the microscopes showed only a white cloth they called a cell, and today what is it? It's complex, and each is different.
People have taken science for a study of God-less nature, but when you put God in the equation, it all makes beautiful sense. How hard is it to understand that he set into motion all things, and laws we experience here. That would make a lot of sense. "My daddy did this, and He even loves me!"
Everyone has a religion, except people who don't have a clue what to believe.
If all you believe is that there is no god, that is a religion, albeit an extremely rudimentary one.
Scientific materialism is the now-popular belief that science will answer all our questions. It is a religion.
Christianity is the belief that our problems will be solved if we trust in Jesus Christ. It is a religion.
It takes as much faith to say there is no god as it does to say there is a god. If you have no religion at all, you don't care, and frankly don't have any chance at all.
Uh, no. you are completely wrong.
Atheism, means literally, without theology. Let me give you an example that might help.
A devout christian gets up in the morning and praises God.
A Muslim gets up and praises Allah
I don't get up and deny the existence of god; I just get up.
As to your assertion that science is a religion, just because some religious figure says that doesn't make it true.
There are many of us that find life fulfilling and complicated enough without the need for a magic man in the sky controlling everything.
"Atheism, means literally, without theology."
No, it doesn't. The OED says "the theory or belief that God does not exist."
It comes from Greek: a- (without) + theos (god).
Atheists believe there is no god. They deny the existence of god when prompted.
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Science ≠ scientific materialism.
Science is "the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."
Scientific materialism is not in my dictionary, but I know it as (put simply) the belief that science is the answer to everything.
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Whatever your belief, I am sad to say that most people do not have a good reason for it. I am a Christian, and I have my reasons. I do not know if they are good reasons, because I've never met anyone who understands my method of explaining things enough to provide any decent argument. Argument is, in my opinion, the key to strengthening your faith.
Unfortunately, there are a large number of Christians who are under the impression that "you just gotta have faith." They might as well be saying that God exists because he just does.
"Unfortunately, there are a large number of Christians who are under the impression that "you just gotta have faith." "
Christians don't say that. That was George Michael.