Lenovo's ThinkCentre M58 / M58p desktops keep the green scheme alive

Sheesh -- feels like just yesterday Lenovo was sounding the green alarm with its ThinkCentre M57 / M57P desktops, and now we're faced with the predictably named successors, the M58 / M58p. Hailed as the firm's "greenest, most secure and most manageable ThinkCentre desktop PC yet," both machines boast Power Manager, a "ThinkVantage technology that allows PC users to control their electricity consumption remotely. Said inclusion is being made available for the first time ever on a ThinkCentre PC, and the array of password / security features is sure to give you peace of mind while inducing migraine headaches. The new crew is available in three form factors -- tower, small form factor (SFF) and ultra small form factor -- and includes Intel's Core 2 Duo chips and a presumably average selection of RAM, HDD and optical drive. Catch all but the USFF rig right now for $499 and $899, respectively.

[Alex @ Oct 30th 2008 7:13AM]

the 90s called about that design...

[zargon @ Oct 30th 2008 7:20AM]

Whether you like the design or not, it cannot be denied that these PCs are rock solid. We have been using IMB/Lenovo's for about 4 years now and we have had only one DOA and two or three that we had to call in for service with in the first year. Unlike my previous employer, who are still ordering Dell and still maintaining a 30% or so failure rate and about a 25% DOA rate. I have been throughly impressed with our IBM/Lenovo systems and their quality.

[Atropos @ Oct 30th 2008 7:42AM]

"Whether you like the design or not, it cannot be denied that these PCs are rock solid."

I can deny it. The school I worked at got 12 on a grant. They were awful. They looked hideous, the case felt cheap and "wobbly" (best word I can think of), for some reason their design sucked in about 50% more dust than any other PCs in the district, and two of them outright failed and had to be sent back for replacement parts (one of which turned out to be the entire motherboard).

No. Thanks. I like Lenovo and I do believe them to be a reliable brand, but the ThinkCentre line is total schwa and in desperate need of an overhaul.

[zargon @ Oct 30th 2008 8:31AM]

It is really too bad that you had an issue with two out of the 12 ThinkCentres that you got. However, we have been ordering around 750 new ThinkCentres every year for the past 3 years with the failure rated that I stated in my previous comment. Even all our vendors have said that IBM/Lenovo have one of the lowest failure rate they have seen, so you are going have to forgive me if I completely dismiss your claim due to lack of real data.

[Atropos @ Oct 30th 2008 9:30AM]

lol, oh I guess my figures are off. That 25% DOA rate on Dells that you quoted sounds real legit. I am sure a quarter of Dell's business PCs are fucking broken.

[zargon @ Oct 30th 2008 9:59AM]

Believe what you want, but that is the last number I heard before I left the company for my current job. They were starting to transition to Panasonic due to that issues they were having with Dell. Considering the fact that they were ordering around 1,000 a year in a real corporate environment, not just a measly 12, it is pretty dismal numbers.

[Atropos @ Oct 30th 2008 10:13AM]

Not to get into a pissing match with your so obviously bullshit numbers, but there's no way on Earth a quarter of Dell's machines are DOA. Our school purchased hundreds of Dells - exclusively - and very very few were busted.

Maybe if your former employer was located atop a mountain Tibet and the PCs had to be carried their by donkeys those numbers would be close, but other than that, no. I'm sure you're going to come back and tell me about how you've ordered 10 Dells for your house and 3 of them were broken or that you ordered three million Lenovos for some enormous business mogul and all of them worked, so I'll just end my comments here.

[Scotty Doo @ Oct 30th 2008 7:15AM]

Does it have MMX and a 3DFX Voodoo graphics card, cos if it doesn't then i ain't interested.

I wanna run Quake 2 at 30fps with COLOURED LIGHTING!

[Atropos @ Oct 30th 2008 7:42AM]

3DFX smoked Quake II. 60fps!

[Zoom @ Oct 30th 2008 7:31AM]

$500 or $900 dollars just to be green? Me no think so.

[tom @ Oct 30th 2008 8:30AM]

Think of your utility bill down the road as well.

[ShyGuy91284 @ Oct 30th 2008 8:23AM]

Wow... They never change designs.... It'd be understandable if it was a good design (which is why Apple's notebooks looked the same for so long), but not with a design like that....

[ipubs bastard child @ Oct 30th 2008 8:31AM]

I was half expecting to see a tape deckbuilt into that keyboard.

[KIFF @ Oct 30th 2008 9:10AM]

I like it. It has a timeless design. Anyway, this is a workstation for people who wants to do work, not taking pictures of it to post on blogs for kids to gawk at.

[ipubs bastard child @ Oct 31st 2008 7:54AM]

Good point that. It's no better or worse looking that the heap of HP i'm using at work.

[ProfessorKaos @ Oct 30th 2008 9:12AM]

No one can argue that the Tower prb. is as rock solid as their thinkpad series, at least when IBM made them. Lenovo doesnt do too bad a job making them either

[flampy @ Oct 30th 2008 11:49AM]

do want that keyboard