Fedora 10 goes live: your download awaits
By Darren Murph 
posted Nov 26th 2008 3:12AM
posted Nov 26th 2008 3:12AM
[Via PC World]
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Pure awesomeness. Of course, it has to come like 1 week after I got Compiz to work with my freaking nvidia card, damnit....
I'm new to Linux and was thinking about installing uBuntu. Can anyone tell me the difference between Fedora 10 versus uBuntu?
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=fedora+10+vs+ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
@Techie: The latest Fedora is really nice, but the package management (installation of software/drivers etc..) in Ubuntu is way better. So id recommend Ubuntu.
@ Anonymous Coward: Thank you, that's what I really want to hear. I was concern about the drivers the most.
Hmm, Compiz should work better with nVidia installing-wise. Make sure its a fairly recent card you're running (so 8600+).
Mandriva come with all the graphical drivers necessary for compiz to work instantly on most cards and has ndiswrapper installed and in a nice GUI, you just browse your windows partition and wham, drivers for anything.
I'll try this towards Christmas. I've got a load fo work to do over the next few weeks on my home machine, once that's done, formatting, I'm waving goodbye to Vista and reverting to good ol' XP. Will give Fedora 10 a try whilst I'm at it.
(Side note: getting rid of vista thanks to wireless gaming lag and the inability play games across mulitple montiors. DX10 I can live without).
BTW, easiest way to try the new OSs is the VirtualBox or VMware Player. You can download premade virtual disk images for Ubuntu and I think that Fedora 100 images would appear soon.
If you are newcomer to Linux, Ubuntu is of course best choice. One only have to keep in mind that Ubuntu by trying to provide best user experience hides many stupid details. After sometime you might want to know all the stupid details - and by then you might know more about Linux and make more knowledgeable choice about Linux distro. (Generally you should check distro alignment with your personal goals: do you want stability; or fresh software; or bells&whistles; or development platform; etc).
@Techie
If you are really new, you could try Linux Mint, it's based in ubuntu but more user-friendly, i hear its a great distro for begginers, although it has the same problem that ubuntu does, you can use for over a year, and still know nothing about linux, it's up to you.
I'm using Arch right now, it's really "hard" compared to ubuntu-like distros, but you are obliged to learn stuff just to get everything running.
@Techie
Not much of a Techie is you are new to linux and can't find the answer youreself, eh?
@Anonymous Coward: I think what you meant to do was this: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=fedora+10+vs+ubuntu
Your failure to be first makes me glee with joy.
@ TI89THUG
"...makes me glee with joy."
Saywha?
fail
Fail!
Nice! Sam Fucktard!
Fedora was always very stable for me, and looked good, had a clean feel to it
are you talking about a woman?
it s a freaking OS dude it doesn't have a clean feel to it! it s not a condom either!
@ pizzaman
Yeah, I'd like a medium pepperoni with mushrooms, double the cheese.
congrats you have enough lack of a life to be the first poster on so many engadget's posts
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I'm so un733t i didnt even know what this was...
Well I for one am going to stick with my buddy Ubuntu.
Well I for one am going to stick with my buddy Vista. Sure, he's got problems, but his heart's in the right place, and he's never let me down when I needed him.
@Gad Get
HA! You must be new to Windows.
Actually, I've been using Windows for about 15 years. Vista's highly underrated.
I agree, vista is extremely underrated, it worked fine for about 8 months on my pc.
I'll stick with Arch though
@gad get
only underrated because Microsoft handed out Vista Capable & Vista Ready Stickers like snowflakes.
always loved fedora, always will :)
As have I! It's about time it makes a comeback.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora
http://www.google.com/trends?q=apple%2C+ubuntu%2C+fedora%2C+suse%2C+debian
I shouldn't be mean, but... come back from where?
err... I'm referring to the fedora, a classy clothing article, not Fedora the OS. You just made this awkward, for both of us.
Don't you mean this?
osx, ubuntu, fedora
http://www.google.com/trends?q=osx%2C+ubuntu%2C+fedora&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
downloading (and seeding) now! Next step is to partition my HD, since my designated linux lappy died *note: DONT push the button on peoples Chrome bags!!!!!!!! Its not funny when their laptop breaks!
Dare I ask what a Chrome bag is?
Yes, I'm genuinely curious as well.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=chrome+bag&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
Sounds like a bad design if opening the bag while someone is holding it will cause the contents to fall out.
@ TI89THUG
"...makes me glee with joy."
Saywha?
They release these versions too often for me.
Release early, release often... that's the linux credo.
I'm having my mom just stick with her preinstalled Ubuntu LTS. New release every three years or something I think.
@ethana2: Ubuntu is released every 6 months; specifically, once ever May/June, and once every Oct/Nov. The LTS versions are SUPPORTED for three years, which I think is what you meant. However, the LTS versions are released every year (in May/June), not every three years.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought this was Engadget - the gadget blog, not a linux news feed like DistroWatch. What was the reason to post this here?
very simple... linux runs on computer...
do you harsh on every windows and mac OS posts too?...
Engadget has a long-standing history of headlining various OS releases. Why? Because my fancy computer is just a humming box without an OS, and new-and-improved OSes mean all of the sudden your gadget (computer) has new features.
So, new OS = gadget with more features...even though the gadget is physically still the same.
'OMFG 10.5.1.2.7b IS 0UT¹¡!!'
Engadget covering OS releases isn't new, but they seem to have realized that OSX doesn't run on non-Apple hardware.
Since fedora and suse release later than us, every release is basically guaranteed to be better than ours somehow.
...unless they ignore the innovations we bring to the table so they can keep whining about their absence, which actually seems likely..
Your will be done dear sir : you are wrong therefore I correct you :
Would you make that kind of comment if this article was about Mac OS X 10.6 ?
Answer : no.
This blog talk about gadgets : PCs, Mac, Smartphones, useless USB crap, etc..
What's the point in presenting a smartphone if you don't say a word about the OS ?
an a PC...? or a MID?
Vista / OS X / Linux / Android / Palm OS / whatever bullshit Moto puts in the crapphones are not off topic here.
This comparison of Fedora and Ubuntu misses the point. Fedora is a bleeding edge flavor of Linux, it serves as an introduction to some of the latest software available in the Open Source world. Fedora is based on RedHat, so if you plan to do development in Linux, knowing your way around RedHat Linux flavors (RHEL, CentOS, Fedora) will serve you well. On the other hand, if you are a more casual user and don't mind not being exposed to the inner workings of then OS, then by all means go with Ubuntu.
I started using Fedora with version 5, I remember compiling the ndiswrapper from source, at a time when I hand no clue what compiling was .. those were the times.
BTW for anybody interested in Linux, visit http://linuxquestions.org they have a very vibrant and friendly community willing to help you out.
I find it interesting that they're aiming at windows developers with this release with the whole mingw thing...
...very interesting....
Many developers use Visual Studio at work (which is highly regarded by them), my guess is that this project seeks to close that gap.
I used OpenSUSE 10.3 but installing apps was a pain with Terminal. Using the "make" command for compiling the app and installing it.... I am back to Windows XP.
However, am downloading Debian for my server....
Fedora's interface looks impressive. Will check it out on a VM.
I don't have any experience with OpenSUSE, but in Fedora you can install binary packages (RPM) from a repository by simply typing:
yum install 'name-of-package'
I believe that in Ubuntu you do something like:
apt-get 'name-of-package'
Either one installs whichever program as well as its dependencies. For more info google Apt or Yum, and while you are at it look up Beryl for some nice graphical interfaces.
If you're using 'make' instead of 'yum', ur doin it rong.
..unless they had an old version of something, and in that case I would build a package for you, but I only know ubuntu packaging, not suse, and I only know enough to update a package, not to package something new.
Even though Tohe is correct, it's even easier still. All major distributions have graphical interfaces for package (aka software) management. I've used Fedora extensively and Ubuntu on-and-off and can't remember the last time I had to use the prompt to add a package from a repository.
That's critical. You can argue about the caliber of the software all day, but the system for adding software to major Linux distros is simple and elegant. I honestly believe that the only reason people find it confusing is that they disbelieve that it can be that simple.
Well, I am aware that there are Application managers for different versions of Linux. But apps that are not in the repo, like LimeWire and Skype have to be downloaded from the company's website and installed as mentioned in the ReadMe, which is very complicated and difficult.
If you want to install Windows versions of both of them, then it would take only a few clicks and a minute!
you can run window versions of those applications by running wine.
"But apps that are not in the repo, like LimeWire and Skype have to be downloaded from the company's website and installed as mentioned in the ReadMe"
You can't really blame the OS for that. There are installers for Linux that the companies can use. Blaming Linux for that is like blaming Microsoft for Adobe not creating an installer.
@Tohe
Yeah, thats a good way now, but when I was using OpenSUSE, it was not there....
@Andir3.0
You are absolutely correct. The OS is perfect and its the applications that are the tough part. Those companies can also make their own Repo that we can add and download using the Application manager. But there is no such simple way for it. Tough its not the fault of the OS, the user-experience is hindered due to this and it creates the problem.
find it interesting that they're aiming at windows developers with this release with the whole thing...
...very interesting....
it interesting that they're aiming at windows developers with this release with the whole thing...
...very interesting....
interesting that they're aiming at windows developers with this release with the whole thing...
...very interesting....
that they're aiming at windows developers with this release with the whole thing...
...very interesting....
they're aiming at windows developers with this release with the whole thing...
...very interesting....
Pros:
-Great for casual users and pros alike.
-Open office included
-Tons of customization
Cons:
-No paperclip to ask me if I need help while using office
I think i'll pass..
Will this run on a PS3 in place of Yellowdog with little or no modifying?
is this better or kubuntu better?
You appear to be writing a list - would you like some assistance?